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JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1305 on: December 01, 2020, 11:42:32 PM »
Did you buy a new one? I know I probably have to go down that path sooner or later, how much do we have to pay for one?

I wonder why alot of guys that have the i1pro2 actually use the spyder x pro to do gamma, is it easier to use?

Because the i1 Pro 2 is nowhere near sensitive enough for measuring gamma under about 10% IRE which there are a few patterns that dim in the 33 point gamma autocal.

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1306 on: December 02, 2020, 12:03:47 AM »
Because the i1 Pro 2 is nowhere near sensitive enough for measuring gamma under about 10% IRE which there are a few patterns that dim in the 33 point gamma autocal.
I was able to get a very good gamma calibration using the i1Pro2.  Had to use it in the ambient light mode, facing and really close to the projector lens. 

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1307 on: December 02, 2020, 12:43:13 AM »
Because the i1 Pro 2 is nowhere near sensitive enough for measuring gamma under about 10% IRE which there are a few patterns that dim in the 33 point gamma autocal.
So in other words the i1pro2 has the advantage with colour and the spyderx pro has an advantage with gamma, true? They say that all the NX models have gamma droop, so maybe the spyder is the best bet as a first meter to invest in...
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Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1308 on: December 02, 2020, 01:39:39 AM »
I was able to get a very good gamma calibration using the i1Pro2.  Had to use it in the ambient light mode, facing and really close to the projector lens.
Lol of course.  But I was referring to stock autocal where you can't use ambient mode.  Of course if you use hacked autocal where you face the lens you have nearly unlimited brightness to work with if you move it super close.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 02:07:10 AM by SirMaster »

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1309 on: December 02, 2020, 07:32:19 AM »
Lol of course.  But I was referring to stock autocal where you can't use ambient mode.  Of course if you use hacked autocal where you face the lens you have nearly unlimited brightness to work with if you move it super close.
A couple of years ago I already used the i1Pro meter in ambient mode for gamma calibration of an x570.  That was long before the patches came out, so the software itself was just using the regular reflective mode. It was more tricky because of the more limited range of the i1Pro (compared with i1Pro2), but it worked.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 02:07:56 PM by dcchan2 »

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1310 on: December 03, 2020, 09:14:38 AM »
A couple of years ago I already used the i1Pro meter in ambient mode for gamma calibration of an x570.  That was long before the patches came out, so the software itself was just using the regular reflective mode. It was more tricky because of the more limited range of the i1Pro (compared with i1Pro2), but it worked.
Ah, so the native autocal software will work just fine facing it at the lens with the diffuser on?

And does it accept the meter calibration from the black lens cap then, rather than the white tile in this scenario?

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1311 on: December 03, 2020, 03:51:41 PM »
I don’t remember, but in theory both the display mode and the ambient mode only need the black cap, not the white tile, for calibration.  It’s only the reflective mode that needs the white tile to calibrate the internal light source. 

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1312 on: December 03, 2020, 03:55:37 PM »
Autocal Color calibration consists of only 7 patch measurements. 100% R,G,B,C,M,Y,W.
The actual calibration only uses 4 patches, 100% W,R,G,B.  It’s only the log that additionally uses the secondary colours.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 06:11:52 PM by dcchan2 »

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1313 on: December 03, 2020, 03:57:48 PM »
I don’t remember, but in theory both the display mode and the ambient mode only need the black cap, not the white tile, for calibration.  It’s only the reflective mode that needs the white tile to calibrate the internal light source.
Ah true. 

And ArgyIICMS when using the meter in hi-res mode as the developer said he uses the white tile reading to help up-scale the 10nm reading to 3.3nm. 

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1314 on: December 05, 2020, 08:43:37 AM »
Did you buy a new one? I know I probably have to go down that path sooner or later, how much do we have to pay for one?

I wonder why alot of guys that have the i1pro2 actually use the spyder x pro to do gamma, is it easier to use?

I bought a new/old stock one off of eBay. 

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1315 on: December 05, 2020, 10:15:35 AM »
Gonna read all the way through Manni’s FAQ and report back. 
« Last Edit: December 05, 2020, 02:11:44 PM by ScottieBoysName »

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Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1316 on: December 06, 2020, 07:24:04 PM »
Hello, I use Autocal v12 1.10 with the mod for i1 display pro, it worked very well (thank you OMARDRIS) With my NX5 

When I use the DCI profile and 6500k the red 100% is in the right place.

When I use the DCI and Color temp on MaxBright the red 100% is not in the right place.

Why is red not on target with the second option? Is it a bug? I even test a custom color profile DCI it's the same thing. I really need DCI with MaxBright for color temperature because I use a fl-day filter and MaxBright allows me to wait for D65 with a lot more Nits.

BT 2020 does not have this problem but I prefer the idea of using DCI P3

I'd like to calibrate in DCI for madvr just with Autocal

Edit : This problem was the same before the first use of autocal. Thank you 
« Last Edit: December 08, 2020, 02:38:20 PM by Nooj »
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Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1317 on: December 08, 2020, 04:16:49 PM »
If you're not using a 3D LUT, it doesn't matter if you use BT2020 or P3, as long as saturations are tracking properly as far as the gamut go. Assuming you're not using a 3D LUT, I would select in the JVC and in Calman:

BT2020, P65, Gamma 2.4 and make sure in Calman that the PJ is tracking well with these targets. Your BT2020 cover will look under saturated, but as long as the saturations track, you'll be good to go. If you want your gamut graphs to look nicer, you can measure P3 within BT2020, there are some layouts that do that. This shows how P3 content measures within the BT2020 container.

In madVR's calibration tab, simply provide the settings you've used when calibrating/checking with Calman, in this case already "calibrated for" BT2020, D65, 2.4. The advantage of doing it this way is that you can use the same calibration with a consumer source, such as a Pana UB UHD player tonemapping to SDR BT2020.


How do you do that? because when I measure BT2020 the graphics are not pretty. I use color HCFR to control, I tested Referance BT2020 / P3 but the saturations do not correspond. eg green makes a big bend while BT2020 / P3 green is straight. thanks again

I always tested firmware 3.5 and N5 between BT2020 and DCI using the same color temperature (MaxBright) and I measured a 100ire white with 3nits more, how is it possible? the Gamut shouldn't change the brightness of white right?

I am thinking of calibrating and using BT2020 and indicating it in madVR, this fixes my DCI red problem and I gain some nits
« Last Edit: December 08, 2020, 06:13:42 PM by Nooj »
JVC RS-2000 / 100" XY Black Crystal / madVR HTPC / Marantz SR7015 / 2x XTZ Edge A2-300 / 6x BeoAmp 2
5x XTZ Cinema M6 + S2 + Spirit 6 / 2x XTZ Sub 1x12 Edge / Sub DIY 12 "Alpine X-Series" / Earthquake Q10B

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1318 on: December 09, 2020, 07:56:35 AM »
Gonna read all the way through Manni’s FAQ and report back.
Just got the EFI ES-2000 Spectrophotometer and I have the spyder x  so will be doing a calibration tonight. 

Re: JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9
« Reply #1319 on: December 09, 2020, 05:05:49 PM »
Just finished calibration and looks amazing. Thanks to everyone on here. I read all through this thread before I did everything. 

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