JVC RS3000

[AVSMike]

Did the green lines then stay on Mike ? All I pressed skip for the trailers and then I had green lines. When I turned system off and on ( that’s everything ) no green lines but this time I didn’t skip trailers and everything seemed fine.

No, just saw the lines while fast forwarding.

[Dylan Seeger]

I got some first hand experience with the green line issue at CEDIA in the fall. The MartinLogan booth showing off their new in-wall surround system was using an RS3000 for video. About 6 hours into the first day, their unit got the problem. I wonder if they walked across the show floor and asked the JVC reps to explain what was happening. 

[Franin]

I got some first hand experience with the green line issue at CEDIA in the fall. The MartinLogan booth showing off their new in-wall surround system was using an RS3000 for video. About 6 hours into the first day, their unit got the problem. I wonder if they walked across the show floor and asked the JVC reps to explain what was happening.

I spoke to JVC AUSTRALIA and they told me that JVC records up too 50hrs so if their is an issue the technicians are able to find out. Not sure wether that is true or not. I was also told it could be Hdmi or source. 

[Franin]

I got some first hand experience with the green line issue at CEDIA in the fall. The MartinLogan booth showing off their new in-wall surround system was using an RS3000 for video. About 6 hours into the first day, their unit got the problem. I wonder if they walked across the show floor and asked the JVC reps to explain what was happening.

Would love to know what they said the them and their response

[Dylan Seeger]

I spoke to JVC AUSTRALIA and they told me that JVC records up too 50hrs so if their is an issue the technicians are able to find out. Not sure wether that is true or not. I was also told it could be Hdmi or source.

I'm assuming you mean some sort of "black box" type of log that records everything for the past 50 hours? If I had to guess, I doubt the projector is aware of an issue though. I say that because you'd think the projector would shut down and give you some sort of blinking light indication that there is a display issue.

I remember having a similar issue with an X500. I had vertical lines, but I forget what color they were. When I sent it in to Mendtronix under warranty, they replaced one of the boards to fix the problem. It wasn't an issue with the DiLA chips or light engine.

[Franin]

I'm assuming you mean some sort of "black box" type of log that records everything for the past 50 hours? If I had to guess, I doubt the projector is aware of an issue though. I say that because you'd think the projector would shut down and give you some sort of blinking light indication that there is a display issue.

I remember having a similar issue with an X500. I had vertical lines, but I forget what color they were. When I sent it in to Mendtronix under warranty, they replaced one of the boards to fix the problem. It wasn't an issue with the DiLA chips or light engine.

Thought that was good to be true. He mentioned that when I told him I wouldn’t be able recreate the experience again as it’s intermittent. 

I know they had blue vertical lines in the past as well as green I was more curious to know what was the cause. But I cannot seem to find it.

Thanks anyway 

[Dylan Seeger]

I wasn't sure exactly where to post this, so I guess here is appropriate as I've had the chance to compare directly against my NX9.

Guys, be on the lookout for some pretty amazing deals on eBay for 1080p 3-chip DLP projectors and some of the higher-end single chip DLPs, like the LED-based Runco Q750. I bought a Runco VX-11D ($30,000 MSRP at launch) for $150. Shipping was nearly the same amount of money, but still, for a measly $300 total, this was a great purchase. I even bought a new OEM lamp from ebay for $30, bringing this projector back to full brightness.

JVC RS3000

It's been a number of years since I've had a 1080p 3-chip DLP in my possession. Probably 4 years ago with the Sim2 Lumis C3X. That was an amazing projector, probably the best consumer 1080p DLP, but this VX-11D isn't too far behind. It has a tack sharp motorized lens. This is using three of the .65" DMDs. Despite that, I'm measuring 2800:1 native contrast at the telephoto end of the lens. The DI is very well implemented. I would even say Runco has tweaked the performance of their DI algorithm over older models, who were already excellent in this regard, as I never see it move. As it has to be a bit more aggressive than the JVCs due to the lower native contrast, there is a bit white clipping visible on some particularly dark scenes. It's not too obnoxious thankfully. The contrast multiplier is 5x, so dynamic contrast is a little over 14,000:1. Calibrated brightness is 1400 lumens at maximum zoom in high lamp mode, but I'm using it at minimum zoom to maximize contrast performance, so that drops it down to roughly 1000 lumens, which is still plenty bright on my 10' wide scope screen.

Out of the box performance is great, and essentially as reference as reference gets from a consumer display after calibration, with the exception being some under saturation of green and cyan at 100%.I need to do some investigating as to why. There's a couple of other color modes that I haven't checked out yet and may fix that issue.

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JVC RS3000

JVC RS3000

JVC RS3000

Image quality is very, very good. Like with most high end DLPs, there is a tremendous amount of depth to the image with brighter APL content. Motion is as good as it gets in the digital projection world. No rainbows and an immensely calm and natural appearing image thanks to the 3-chip DLP engine. It really gives the NX9 competition with certain content. The best way for me to describe how the image looks compared to the NX9 is that the VX-11D is like I'm watching the digital master of a movie and the NX9 is like I'm watching an original film negative. There is a great sense of digital exactness to the VX-11D, but, as I said in my NX9 review, the JVC is like watching the best analog film you've ever seen. The cray high pixel fill and greater pixel density of the JVC gives the image a distinct smooth and analog aesthetic to the image. While I can't see a pixel grid on the VX-11D, I do get more of a sense that I'm watching a digital image for whatever reason. I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. Both images look amazing, each better in a number of ways.

My personal take is that the NX9 is still better overall, by a good margin, but I can't fault someone for still wanting to use a 3-chip DLP as there is an aesthetic quality to the image I can understand a preference for. I'm sure some people are okay with the relative image quality deficiencies LCoS projectors fix to get that aesthetic quality. I'm just glad I didn't have to spend a fortune on this Runco model and is something I plan on keeping for the long haul so I always have a frame of reference to what a good DLP can look like when I have other projectors here to review.

[AVSCraig]

Wow Dylan - great score for $300.00 ! 

[Dylan Seeger]

I couldn't pass up the deal. The seller had listed it "for parts or not working" because the projector didn't come with the outboard video processor, so he didn't know how to power it on and check to see if it was working. Luckily, the projector can be controlled via RS-232, or, there's actually a port to connect an IR receiver inside the projector that I took advantage of. I bought a cheap $8 IR receiver and have that on top of the projector so I can control it via Runco remote instead. The VX-11D is essentially a Runco LS-10i in a much nicer chassis. The EDID even lists the projector as an LS-10i haha.

[rob-houston]

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Guys, be on the lookout for some pretty amazing deals on eBay for 1080p 3-chip DLP projectors and some of the higher-end single chip DLPs, like the LED-based Runco Q750. I bought a Runco VX-11D ($30,000 MSRP at launch) for $150. Shipping was nearly the same amount of money, but still, for a measly $300 total, this was a great purchase. I even bought a new OEM lamp from ebay for $30, bringing this projector back to full brightness.

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AH! Your backup projector!:)

Back to the good old days on the other forum, where you bought used projectors tested them and provided interesting reports? 

You'll need your on personal thread for that!

[Dylan Seeger]

Rob, Sony is sending me a VPL-VW995ES to review. So I can provide some interesting info on that when it arrives either today or tomorrow.

[AVSCraig]

Rob, Sony is sending me a VPL-VW995ES to review. So I can provide some interesting info on that when it arrives either today or tomorrow.

Hopefully it won't have banding like the VW695 we saw in Denver. 

[Dylan Seeger]

Hopefully it won't have banding like the VW695 we saw in Denver.

I never got the opportunity to visit the Sony booth. Or was the 695ES setup elsewhere?

[AVSCraig]

I never got the opportunity to visit the Sony booth. Or was the 695ES setup elsewhere?

Denver a week ago. https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=2384.0

[Dylan Seeger]

Denver a week ago. https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=2384.0

DOH! I thought you were talking about CEDIA.