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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2019, 03:53:40 PM »
I spent the last two hours watching content with the DI off and contrast performance is still very impressive. I was having too much fun just watching the image this projector produces that I forgot to take more measurements haha. I will do my best to take more measurements later. I'm hoping we see some more pre-orders delivered today so others can corroborate my findings. Those who bought one are in for a treat. I know the term "looking through a window" gets thrown around a lot, but my RS2000 takes things one step closer. The ever-so-slightly more digital look that I used to see on the eshifters vs Sony SXRD is now gone. It really reminds me a lot of what I'm used to seeing from Sony 4K SXRD in this regard. Native motion (no CMD) looks a bit better to my eyes as well.


Yeah, the image I saw on the 3000 at CEDIA reminded me of my RS4500. Which I described as looking out an opening, no glass. :)
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2019, 07:17:27 PM »
Here are some out of the box contrast measurements for my RS2000:

High Lamp, minimum zoom, iris fully open: 29,400, iris @ - 7: 39,563:1, iris @ -15; 62,100:1

High Lamp, max zoom, iris fully open: 23,450:1, iris @-7: 38,550:1, iris @-15: 50,800:1

Maximum dynamic contrast: 176,850:1, this indicates a 6x contrast multiplier.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 08:32:18 PM by Dylan Seeger »
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2019, 07:32:16 PM »
In the most accurate out of the box mode I'm getting:

1635 lumens iris open maximum zoom

1209 lumens iris open minimum zoom


Lumens drop 25% when putting the projector into low lamp mode. I'm also only seeing a 10% drop in lumens with the P3 filter in place. This is odd to me since I read @ARROW-AV measured 25% if I remember correctly. I'm going to check to be sure everything is set correctly just to double check these findings. Maybe a change the latest January production models got?
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 07:47:00 PM by Dylan Seeger »
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 10:39:10 PM »
@ Dylan Seeger    PM Sent.. ;)

Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2019, 11:15:06 PM »
Just a 10% drop with the filter would be excellent. I measure a 18% drop on my RS3000 (December build) - same as Ekki recorded - which is closer to Nigel's measurement than the 7% drop I saw on my RS600.

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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2019, 12:14:37 AM »
Hi Dylan, thanks for the measurements. Which meter are you using to measure contrast, and is this at the screen or at the lens? Can you confirm that this is using high bright uncalibrated, or is it an uncalibrated D65 preset? 10% drop for the filter would be good news, though your lumens numbers could be a bit low depending on which mode you measured. 25% between low and high is pretty much as it was.

Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 06:22:16 AM »
I'm using a Minolta CL-200 to measure in D65 preset uncalibrated mode. I'm waiting to put a few more hours on this unit before I calibrate.
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 06:28:01 AM »
I'm using a Minolta CL-200 to measure in D65 preset uncalibrated mode. I'm waiting to put a few more hours on this unit before I calibrate.


Thanks. Yes in that case your measurements make sense, as this is not how the specs are measured.

Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2019, 06:31:33 AM »
I will test out the other modes later. I'm assuming you're implying HDR mode plus the filter reduces lumen output more? I thought I could kill two birds with one stone and measure with and without the filter in place in the same mode. I was assuming the loss would be the same no matter the mode. But now I will check.
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 07:03:51 AM »
No don’t worry, do your thing, I’ll take my own measurements next week, it doesn’t look like we have the same methodology.

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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2019, 07:11:40 AM »
Here are some out of the box contrast measurements for my RS2000:

High Lamp, minimum zoom, iris fully open: 29,400, iris @ - 7: 39,563:1, iris @ -15; 62,100:1

High Lamp, max zoom, iris fully open: 23,450:1, iris @-7: 38,550:1, iris @-15: 50,800:1

Maximum dynamic contrast: 176,850:1, this indicates a 6x contrast multiplier.


Your maximum dynamic contrast number, was it measured in high lamp or low lamp? Also was it measured with the iris fully open?
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2019, 07:14:49 AM »

Your maximum dynamic contrast number, was it measured in high lamp or low lamp? Also was it measured with the iris fully open?

It was measured in high lamp mode, manual iris setting set to 0 (fully open) and the projector's lens at minimum zoom.
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2019, 07:20:46 AM »
No don’t worry, do your thing, I’ll take my own measurements next week, it doesn’t look like we have the same methodology.

Well, there's no "methodology" going on. I was doing quick measurements last night, nothing too involved. And now that I think about it, I must have put the projector into HDR10 mode to measure because that's the easiest way to enable the filter. If I remember correctly, this changes the color temp/color mode setting too. I will double check tonight when I have time to play with the RS2000 again. The other measurements were using User1 mode with the D65 preset enabled.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 07:37:44 AM by Dylan Seeger »
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2019, 07:26:49 AM »
Another interesting note. My convergence has now "settled". Now my unit needs no help with the software convergence control after the unit warms up. This is all good news because fresh out of the box it was off very bad.
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2019, 09:36:08 AM »
ENJOY the thing! That's what's for!!  :) ;)

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