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JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9

Was it always the case that you didn't need to press the button? With V11 my i1pro2 wasn't detected by the Autocal until I pressed the button during init, and I think Bobof's behaves the same. Maybe they have improved this with V12, I'll try to do nothing next time and see if it detects it.

I have not tried v12 actually.

v11 and also v10 that I used for an RS540 both did not need me to press the button at any time.

I actually have 2 different i1 Pro 2 with me at the moment and both work with autocal v11 without ever pressing the button.

I am not really sure why this would be, but it is.

I am using the 2006 driver from the X-Rite website:  
https://www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/i/i1drivers_32_64_bit_win2000_xp_vista
« Last Edit: October 24, 2019, 09:56:39 AM by SirMaster »

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I have not tried v12 actually.

v11 and also v10 that I used for an RS540 both did not need me to press the button at any time.

I actually have 2 different i1 Pro 2 with me at the moment and both work with autocal v11 without ever pressing the button.

I am not really sure why this would be, but it is.

I am using the 2006 driver from the X-Rite website: 
https://www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/i/i1drivers_32_64_bit_win2000_xp_vista
Thanks, it looks like windows is loading the 2009 driver for my i1pro2, that might be a reason.
I'll try this 2006 driver in my next session and I'll report back next month.

LeFric: it might be worth it to try this driver version, it might solve your issues if your current drivers is the 2009 version like mine.

Thanks, it looks like windows is loading the 2009 driver for my i1pro2, that might be a reason.
I'll try this 2006 driver in my next session and I'll report back next month.

LeFric: it might be worth it to try this driver version, it might solve your issues if your current drivers is the 2009 version like mine.
Where do you even get a 2009 driver?

I heard it mentioned but I was not able to find it.

My Windows 10 needed me to install a driver to get the "eye-one" to work at all.  I can see it as "eye-one" with no driver loaded though in device manager.

I also bounce back and forth between that driver from the X-Rite website which I have to use for autocal, and ArgyllCMS which I use for when I use my i1 Pro 2 with DisplayCAL and HCFR.

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Where do you even get a 2009 driver?

I heard it mentioned but I was not able to find it.

My Windows 10 needed me to install a driver to get the "eye-one" to work at all.  I can see it as "eye-one" with no driver loaded though in device manager.

I also bounce back and forth between that driver from the X-Rite website which I have to use for autocal, and ArgyllCMS which I use for when I use my i1 Pro 2 with DisplayCAL and HCFR.
The 2009 driver was loaded by default, possibly because Calman or Lightspace installed/updated it, as they use the generic OS driver.

One of the reasons why I don't use DisplayCAL/ArgyllCMS (the main one being that it doesn't support my Discus) is because I don't want to have to jungle between drivers every time I change software. The JVC Autocal, Calman and Lightspace all use the same OS driver, or don't ask me to uninstall it whenever I try to use them. Just too much hassle.

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The f/w for the Maestro with the Frame Adapt HDR picture mode added to the JVC Macro is available here https://www.hdfury.com/product/maestro/. The f/w for the Vertex is available here. Click on the download tab for both.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2019, 12:17:41 PM by Manni »

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Just managed to get an almost new EFI ES-2000, should be in begin next week.
So then I will have Spyder 5, Spyder X, I1 display Pro, Efi ES-2000, Colormunki Photo, DTP94 (x 2) ..... anything else ?
Oh yes wait there's also a Datacolor spectro #1005 on a shelf somewhere collecting dust :o 

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Don't have the time to calibrate, but I tried the 2006 driver and the i1pro2 is detected after a few secs simply laying on the plate, no need to press the button.

@LeFric, you might want to try this.

Thanks Manni,

That is what I will do.

BTW if I understand your previous DTM posts correctly its probably worth doing three Picture modes while I have all the equipment out. With User 3 being done in case the DTM algo is actually tone mapping to P3

User1 - SDR709 - Color Profile 709, 6500K, 2.4, low lamp, iris -6 (~60 nits)
User2 - HDR2020 - Color Profile BT2020, HDR10, HDR(PQ), high lamp, iris -0
User3 - HDR-P3 - Color Profile DCI, HDR10, HDR(PQ), high lamp, iris -0

Am I understanding your post correctly?


Thanks again
So how did this picture modes work out?  I was gonna do User 1 to cover SDR (HD Xfinity broadcasts, regular blu rays), and User 2 (UHD Blu Rays/Netflix 4k streaming to use DTM.)  Will both these profiles cover what I need?

Yes, they will.
Specifically, I have already clarified that with autocal you are NOT calibrating the color mode; what really matters is the combination of lamp, iris and color filter (only in case of N7 and N9) and the color profile is not relevant. For this reason the 3rd calibration is not needed and would instead overwrite the 2nd one.
Also, 3rd mode can only be used if you have a video processor that outputs DCI color space. But even if used, it would benefit of the 2nd calibration.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2019, 01:44:01 AM by CyberPaul »

Can the Spyder5 Express be used with any version of AutoCAL that supports it?

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Can the Spyder5 Express be used with any version of AutoCAL that supports it?
Yes, only difference with the Pro and Elite is that the Spyder5 Express lacks the environment sensor.


Because of the poor color calibration with my Spyder, I restored the INIT file and auto-calibrated gamma only (while waiting for a used i1 display pro).
After the calibration I compared color measures using ColorMunki and Spyder on a common field: HCFR.
With SpyderX I did measures using two calibration matrices: General and Standard Led
I also attached a picture of the gamut logged by Autocal software itself.
As you can see, General is pretty distant from ColorMunki (that I think is quite accurate). And the gamut read by Autocal is very similar to the results achieved with General. There is an evident problem with the green. Standard Led setting seems more similar to the ColorMunki though.
This test confirms IMHO the inaccuracy of SpyderX when used with the "General" matrix, apparently the one that Autocal is using.
On the other hand I measured the gamma and it is simply perfect! And the color uncalibrated is not that bad after 300h.

« Last Edit: October 26, 2019, 01:57:08 PM by CyberPaul »

Yes, only difference with the Pro and Elite is that the Spyder5 Express lacks the environment sensor.
The lack of environmental sensor is in the Spyder software not hardware. All three meters are identical in hardware. We tested an Express bought meter on a Mac that had the Elite software installed and it activated the sensor with no issues. That is why you can upgrade an Express bought meter to the Elite by just upgrading the software (key). And the best part is this...the software is also identical and just the features are "unlocked" when you purchase the upgrade "key".

The lack of environmental sensor is in the Spyder software not hardware. All three meters are identical in hardware. We tested an Express bought meter on a Mac that had the Elite software installed and it activated the sensor with no issues. That is why you can upgrade an Express bought meter to the Elite by just upgrading the software (key). And the best part is this...the software is also identical and just the features are "unlocked" when you purchase the upgrade "key".
Really?! I didn't know that. So does it work with the JVC software without any specific license?

Really?! I didn't know that. So does it work with the JVC software without any specific license?
In theory it should. Autocal is using the driver that is the same on all three models so it should work. I never understood why Datacolor used the same driver and same software for all three models and used the key method to unlock features. This method also lends to easier hacking/cracking.

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