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JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9

Manni

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@den110: I found an old procedure for a f/w update (older model X30) where JVC gave advice for direct connection. It's in on page 3, section 2. LAN Connection settings. Of course ignore everything else as it doesn't apply to our 4K models.

By the way make sure you're using a straight cable, you can't use a crossover cable for direct LAN connection.

I'd look at the IP address of the PC/Laptop first, and select a different IP address in the same range with the same subnet mask. It should work with the right cable.

I assume you'd like a direct connection with a laptop to be physically closer to the PJ if the PJ is located far away from the router, but if you can go through a router it's preferable and easier.

One thing I do when I need to be closer to the meters is I use Remote Desktop to control my laptop from an iPad. It works great and allows you to be mobile, while still having the calibrating PC/laptop connected to the router.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 04:42:59 AM by Manni »

Restore init file= restore calibration tables to their pre-autocal use state.
so a cbd file is the complete state of the projector after that particular run? i.e. No point keeping old files around once a new run is complete

how does one restore a cbd file? this isn't mentioned in the docs as far as I can see
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 06:32:00 AM by 3ll3d00d »

so a cbd file is the complete state of the projector after that particular run? i.e. No point keeping old files around once a new run is complete

how does one restore a cbd file? this isn't mentioned in the docs as far as I can see
It is mentioned at page 7:

Recovering Backup Data
1 Click the “IMPORT” button (4th button from left on the main screen).
2 Select the backup data file from the folder, and click “Open”.
3 The backup data is imported to the projector.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 07:00:25 AM by CyberPaul »

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so a cbd file is the complete state of the projector after that particular run? i.e. No point keeping old files around once a new run is complete

how does one restore a cbd file? this isn't mentioned in the docs as far as I can see
No, it's not the complete state of the projector, as explained in my former post. It's only the complete calibration tables (all the calibration tables, so the current state of the projector as far as internal calibration tables are concerned, not just the last one). It doesn't include any of the settings.

I keep all the files so that I can go back to a particular state if needed. It's a bit like incremental (not differential) backups, or your system disk images. You can keep as many as you want, but you only need the last one to go back to the previous state. Restoring the init file is only needed if you want to go back to factory state (re calibration tables, not settings).

You import/export the settings in the import/export menu.
You import a .cbd file in the settings menu (import backup file *.cbd), in the lower right part of the screen, to the right of where you specify the path to save them.

Ok right, I see now (was looking in the import/export page as opposed to the settings page). Thanks. Is there any way to do a complete snapshot including settings? I guess I can write a script to do but would be convenient if that already exists somewhere already.

I am using a spyderx and an i1pro which seems to give excellent results with gamma 2.2 but measurably worse tracking at the low end (below 30%) with gamma 2.4 when verified with an i1d3 (corrected by the i1pro). My room is not bat cave but is dark (matt dark walls and ceiling, dark carpet). This is for rec709, iris at -10, low lamp for about 60nits.
The 2.2 runs is basically bang on throughout the range.

Any ideas on why this is the case or what data might help diagnose? For example, is it just the meter not being up to the job?


« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 09:24:46 AM by 3ll3d00d »

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Ok right, I see now (was looking in the import/export page as opposed to the settings page). Thanks. Is there any way to do a complete snapshot including settings? I guess I can write a script to do but would be convenient if that already exists somewhere already.

I am using a spyderx and an i1pro which seems to give excellent results with gamma 2.2 but measurably worse tracking at the low end (below 30%) with gamma 2.4 when verified with an i1d3 (corrected by the i1pro). My room is not bat cave but is dark (matt dark walls and ceiling, dark carpet). This is for rec709, iris at -10, low lamp for about 60nits.
The 2.2 runs is basically bang on throughout the range.

Any ideas on why this is the case or what data might help diagnose? For example, is it just the meter not being up to the job?
No way that I know of to do a complete export (calibration tables + settings).

Did you use the Spyder X for gamma only and the i1pro for color only? Both are up to their respective job, but neither is up to both jobs.

There shouldn't be any difference between gamma 2.2 and gamma 2.4, it's the same calibration. Provided you did a gamma only with the Spyder X and a color only with the i1pro.

I'm assuming you're looking at power 2.4 and not BT1886, as the i1d3 isn't able to read black so shouldn't be used for BT1886 calibration (unless a black reading is entered manually).

If you still have issues, please provide the logs screenshots for the Autocal with a 2.2 target after a gamma calibration with the Spyder X, and the gamut/color temp logs after a color calibration with the i1pro.

Of course, check that all your gamma settings and color temp settings are reset (preferably before calibration so the logs are readable). It can be useful to rest both color temp and gamma settings (not only entering zero values, select "reset to default" for each, just in case some values are saved somewhere.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2019, 03:06:03 PM by Manni »

No, my DCI red is slightly undersaturated, as can be seen on all the screenshots posted in the basic / advanced sections.
I meant after the bad Color autocal. doesn't your spyder x (or software) tend to underestimate red?

yes that's correct, spyder for gamma and i1pro for colour & power 2.4 rather than bt.1886.

I'll do another run, see if it improves (and will share the results here if not)

@den110: I found an old procedure for a f/w update (older model X30) where JVC gave advice for direct connection. It's in on page 3, section 2. LAN Connection settings. Of course ignore everything else as it doesn't apply to our 4K models.

By the way make sure you're using a straight cable, you can't use a crossover cable for direct LAN connection.

I'd look at the IP address of the PC/Laptop first, and select a different IP address in the same range with the same subnet mask. It should work with the right cable.

I assume you'd like a direct connection with a laptop to be physically closer to the PJ if the PJ is located far away from the router, but if you can go through a router it's preferable and easier.

One thing I do when I need to be closer to the meters is I use Remote Desktop to control my laptop from an iPad. It works great and allows you to be mobile, while still having the calibrating PC/laptop connected to the router.

Hi Manni,  so I found out what I was doing wrong.  This is the procedure to connect directly to pj:
  • plug ethernet cable into pj and laptop (I used a usb c to ethernet port adapter)
  • find out ip address:  go to cmd prompt and type in ipconfig.  I got IPv4 address as: 169.254.182.10 and subnet mask as: 255.255.0.0 and default gateway as: 192.168.1.1 per my ethernet adapter
  • go into pj's network menu and enter above values except change the IPv4 address by one number - I chose 11 for the last 2 values
  • then enter the IPv4 values - 169.254.182.11 into autocal software
  • presto!  connection!


Manni

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Hi Manni,  so I found out what I was doing wrong.  This is the procedure to connect directly to pj:
  • plug ethernet cable into pj and laptop (I used a usb c to ethernet port adapter)
  • find out ip address:  go to cmd prompt and type in ipconfig.  I got IPv4 address as: 169.254.182.10 and subnet mask as: 255.255.0.0 and default gateway as: 192.168.1.1 per my ethernet adapter
  • go into pj's network menu and enter above values except change the IPv4 address by one number - I chose 11 for the last 2 values
  • then enter the IPv4 values - 169.254.182.11 into autocal software
  • presto!  connection!
Yes, that's what I was suggesting in my last post :)
Glad it worked for you. By the way, you don't need a DOS command to figure out the IP address, it's in the network adapter details in the control panel (network and sharing centre).
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 03:46:17 PM by Manni »

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I meant after the bad Color autocal. doesn't your spyder x (or software) tend to underestimate red?
We'll see that when I check the Spyder X with the next beta of Calman. I can't remember.

I've been unable to make the JVC Autocal recognize the SpyderX on Windows 7.  It works fine on Win 10 and the Datacolor program recognizes it on Win 7.  Has anyone been able to make it work on Win 7?

For me following these instructions all works fine in Win7.

Follow this step:

1) Install the Datacolor Software
2) Follow the instructions on the link above
3) Uninstall Datacolor Software

Thanks.  Unfortunately, that procedure did not work for me, but I now know that it's probably a problem with my computer and I can continue to investigate.

Manni

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Thanks.  Unfortunately, that procedure did not work for me, but I now know that it's probably a problem with my computer and I can continue to investigate.
Did you update your Win 7 to the latest service pack? I think it's a requirement for the Spyder X driver.

There is also the option of upgrading to Windows 10... Good luck!

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