JVC Autocal Software V12 calibration for 2019 RS1000/RS2000/RS3000/NX5/NX7/NX9

[ENT]

Thanks, as soon as you confirm I'll link your confirmation in the "Which meter to use?" post.

I had already added there last week the information that Spyder X support was coming with the new f/w, but you gave the other improvements a lot more visibility with your (re)post above.

I have received a Spyder X yesterday (there is/was a significant discount on Amazon UK, so I took advantage of it as I wasn't sure if it would last or not). I haven't had the time to test it yet but I will. Not sure if Calman supports it yet, but Lightspace does. I'd like to check primarily the speed, which is apparently faster but it could be a software change, and the sensitivity near black. I hope to be able to post comparisons and first impressions by the time the Autocal software supporting it is released, so that people can decide if it's worth to upgrade or not if you already have a Spyder 5.

I already know that I don't like the new color. Anything white gets a thumb down in my bat cave, it hurts my eyes, but it's a meter, so I don't really mind, it won't be in my field of vision when I watch a film.

Hi Manni, I tried Eizo E3X, it doesn't work neither with Calman nor with JVC Autocal. Also I tried with Spyder5 express proprietary software, it don't recognize the manufacturing, accept E3X as a spyder5 but highlights  a wrong vendor and stops running. Me too received a Spyder X yesterday  (the same discount in Amazon IT I think) about I have had the same impressions as yours. I tried it with Calman but doesen't work, for JVC autocal it is need to wait the next firmware release . If JVC keep what it promised, I think in the October a lot of external upscaling processors/HDR optimizers for the new JVC N/RS series could be unnecessary. In that case, a color calibration, with I1Pro/ES2000, and Gamma with SpyderX will be enough for a lot of profiles.

[Manni]

Hi Manni, I tried Eizo E3X, it doesn't work neither with Calman nor with JVC Autocal. Also I tried with Spyder5 express proprietary software, it don't recognize the manufacturing, accept E3X as a spyder5 but highlights  a wrong vendor and stops running. Me too received a Spyder X yesterday  (the same discount in Amazon IT I think) about I have had the same impressions as yours. I tried it with Calman but doesen't work, for JVC autocal it is need to wait the next firmware release . If JVC keep what it promised, I think in the October a lot of external upscaling processors/HDR optimizers for the new JVC N/RS series could be unnecessary. In that case, a color calibration, with I1Pro/ES2000, and Gamma with SpyderX will be enough for a lot of profiles.

Thanks for confirming that the Eizo E3X doesn't work with the Autocal. I've made a note in the "Which meter to use?" section that links to your post. Yes, the version of Autocal supporting the Spyder X is expected after the f/w lands (or at the same time). The discount is the main reason why I bought it early.

Thanks also for confirming that Calman doesn't support it yet, I'll use Lighspace to do some initial testing when/if I find the time and I'll report back.

I'm sure that the new f/w will improve HDR significantly in most situations, but having spent the last couple of years helping madshi with madVR development and following the genesis of the Envy, I can tell you that I will be very surprised if JVC's dynamic tonemapping solution doesn't have any issues. It's very easy to cause flickering, unwanted brightness changes and so on with dynamic tonemapping. We'll see. Exciting times anyway, and very welcome development by JVC!

I also doubt that the result will be as good as madVR or the Envy, but there is no doubt it will be good enough for many, if not most. I'm expecting to receive an Envy as soon as it lands, so I'll post my impressions in the appropriate thread when that happens.

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Yes, but do you know the price suggested?
$ 9.979  Envy Pro Cinema
$ 5.499  Envy Base.
Upper than N7 for pro, upper to N5 for base, have it sense?

[Manni]

Yes, but do you know the price suggested?
$ 9.979  Envy Pro Cinema
$ 5.499  Envy Base.
Upper than N7 for pro, upper to N5 for base, have it sense?

To me, yes, completely, but as I said I don't expect it to be the case for everyone. Let's keep the thread on topic and discuss the Envy in its own thread
Thanks again for your confirmation.

[Killroy™]

With 5-days left in the Loyalty upgrade sale for the Spyder X I think I will bite the bullet and upgrade my Spyder 5 (at least I can keep it just in case) and will get the EFI ES-2000 for color. Thanks for that great tip as the $1400 price for the i1Pro2 was a bitter pill to swallow.

Now I can sit down and spend many happy hours in the dark trying to get the calibration just right...of course once the new firmware drops. Also planning on doing a 3DLut but that's a whole different thread.

[Manni]

Very good review of the Spyder X by Tom Huffman (owner of Chromapure).

Twice as fast, 10x better low light sensibility (though not as good as the i1DisplayPro).

Based on this review, it sounds like the Spyder X will be a worthy upgrade for Autocal users over the Spyder 5, unlike the upgrade from Spyder 4 to 5 which was very minimal.

I'm glad I snapped one of these Amazon.co.uk deals

Still haven't had the time to crack the box open, the fact that it's not supported by Calman yet is a bummer.

I'll update the thread whenever I've had a chance to try it (it might take a while, I'm completely snowed under with work at the moment).

I attach the main results below (measurements taken by his CR300), please look at Tom's review for more details.

[Killroy™]

Someone brought up a good question on the "other" forum....

Do you recommend doing two calibrations if you use an anamorphic lens on a slider? One for the 16:9/lens-off then one for the scope/lens-on (horizontally expanded since I use an ISCO IIIL) or just the one at 16:9 with no lens.

[Manni]

Someone brought up a good question on the "other" forum....

Do you recommend doing two calibrations if you use an anamorphic lens on a slider? One for the 16:9/lens-off then one for the scope/lens-on (horizontally expanded since I use an ISCO IIIL) or just the one at 16:9 with no lens.

I don't have an anamorphic lens so I'll let others reply, but I would expect that you have to adjust the iris to get the same brightness between the two modes, so yes, you would need at least two different color calibrations if there are more than 3-5 steps between the two iris settings.

Then I guess you'll need to different picture profiles to select the iris settings automatically.

But really I've never had an anamorphic lens so I'll let someone with first hand experience to comment on their best practice.

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I'm sure that the new f/w will improve HDR significantly in most situations, but having spent the last couple of years helping madshi with madVR development and following the genesis of the Envy, I can tell you that I will be very surprised if JVC's dynamic tonemapping solution doesn't have any issues. It's very easy to cause flickering, unwanted brightness changes and so on with dynamic tonemapping. We'll see. Exciting times anyway, and very welcome development by JVC!

I also doubt that the result will be as good as madVR or the Envy, but there is no doubt it will be good enough for many, if not most. I'm expecting to receive an Envy as soon as it lands, so I'll post my impressions in the appropriate thread when that happens.

Hi Manni, from CEDIA 2019:

[raheaps]

Received an email from Datacolor with a 30% off offer for the Spyder X.  On their website they have a comparison chart showing the Spyder Pro & Spyder Elite.  In the category of projector calibration they show only the Elite for projector calibration.  The Pro is mentioned in numerous places on the forum for JVC calibration.  Is the Elite the one to buy?

[SirMaster]

Received an email from Datacolor with a 30% off offer for the Spyder X.  On their website they have a comparison chart showing the Spyder Pro & Spyder Elite.  In the category of projector calibration they show only the Elite for projector calibration.  The Pro is mentioned in numerous places on the forum for JVC calibration.  Is the Elite the one to buy?

No, they are just referring to their own software.

There is no difference between the Pro and Elite other than the features unlocked in their own software.

But I wouldn't recommend using their software.  Use Autocal for your JVC, DisplayCAL for your computer monitors, and HCFR for other displays IMO.

[raheaps]

Thanks for the quick response.  I intend to use only the JVC software.

[Clark Burk]

Good through the 18th. Use the Spyder Loyalty program to get the Spyder X at a good price. If you've owned a Spyder product before check it out. Be honest now;) Here's the link. I couldn't turn down the chance to get one at this price as it looks like JVC will be using this as one of the compatible units for their new Auto Calibration Software. Manni probably knows best but this is for the Pro version which is all that should be needed.

https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/promotions/upgrade-to-spyderx-us-offer/

DEAL HAS EXPIRED

[den110]

Good through the 18th. Use the Spyder Loyalty program to get the Spyder X at a good price. If you've owned a Spyder product before check it out. Be honest now;) Here's the link. I couldn't turn down the chance to get one at this price as it looks like JVC will be using this as one of the compatible units for their new Auto Calibration Software. Manni probably knows best but this is for the Pro version which is all that should be needed.

https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/promotions/upgrade-to-spyderx-us-offer/

This is for those of us that never register our products unless we get a better warranty lol.

Just ordered the SpyderX Pro.  Great price, thanks for sharing!

[CyberPaul]

Other than SpyderX, the main improvement will be software in the HDR management, improvement as the HDR Adaptive frame, new default profiles as MadVR etc.

There is no new default profile for MadVR. It is simply a customized (and renamed) profile made by the owner.
And HDR Adaptive frame is still the same feature with a different name.