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Title: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 30, 2020, 02:13:10 PM
Hey guys...ive been mia lately...but figured what better way to come back to start my rebuild thread....

Welp 2020 struck and we had an accident with our washing machine which in turn flooded our basement and ruined my theater. :(......silver lining...i now have sinced demo'd it and it will now be the playroom. and with that, a relocation of my theater and a BIGGER theater woooo...my OG theater was small...10'x16' which included a false AT screen wall...

new theater space is 17'x13' so much needed breathing room

so anyhow...the old room being demo'fd and drywalled....the new area is cleared....and ready to roll....wood and drywall being delivered tuesday...IM sure ill be bouncing ideas off everyone here...and posting progress pics

stay tuned...
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 30, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
Finished product :) 

Few things to button up. Like paint the trim on the door black. And finish the paint/grills for the atmos speakers 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 30, 2020, 02:13:31 PM
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 30, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 31, 2020, 10:38:15 AM
Ok so this is the old theater before/after construction and the damage and demo pics. And what it looks like now....followed by the new area and a video walk through

Old theater before after construction 
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Destruction and demo
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New play room being drywalled
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New theater area. 17x13
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 31, 2020, 10:41:47 AM
Video walk through of proposed theater

Thoughts??

https://streamable.com/4vrskt
(https://streamable.com/4vrskt)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on August 31, 2020, 03:51:06 PM
Video walk through of proposed theater

Thoughts??

https://streamable.com/4vrskt
(https://streamable.com/4vrskt)
17' wide x 13' deep or the other way around ? Hard to tell in the video. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 31, 2020, 05:52:47 PM
17' wide x 13' deep or the other way around ? Hard to tell in the video.
Sorry. The screen wall is the 13’ wall
so 17’ long. 13’ wide :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on August 31, 2020, 06:44:38 PM
Sorry. The screen wall is the 13’ wall
so 17’ long. 13’ wide :)
Makes sense - you need 17' for the projector and throw.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 31, 2020, 09:07:15 PM
Makes sense - you need 17' for the projector and throw.
Yeah with the rs600 13’ (assuming baffle wall and size of the PJ so from lense to screen) will get me 2.4:1 120” or so
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 01, 2020, 11:30:12 AM
13' x 17' is a nice size. How many seats are you planning for?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 01, 2020, 07:29:21 PM
13' x 17' is a nice size. How many seats are you planning for?
Just the 3 that was in the old theater. In the 5 years I had it. We had 4 people in it. (2 of which was our kids) maybe 5 times lol. 

gonna be a nice little upgrade in size from the small 10x16 I had


wood was supposed to be delivered today to start framing. But somehow the system cancelled my order. >:(  So I reordered. And it’s supposed to come tomorrow. We will see lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 02, 2020, 09:00:33 AM
Just the 3 that was in the old theater. In the 5 years I had it. We had 4 people in it. (2 of which was our kids) maybe 5 times lol.

gonna be a nice little upgrade in size from the small 10x16 I had


wood was supposed to be delivered today to start framing. But somehow the system cancelled my order. >:(  So I reordered. And it’s supposed to come tomorrow. We will see lol
13' x 17' for 3 people gives you nice spacing for the speakers and allows you nice size on the screen. And with the odd number of seats, a money seat. :) 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 02, 2020, 10:11:10 AM
13' x 17' for 3 people gives you nice spacing for the speakers and allows you nice size on the screen. And with the odd number of seats, a money seat. :)
It was the thing I really disliked about my first theater. Too narrow. That and I didn’t like the door in the back. Now it will be on the side wall just in front of the screen 

I plan on placing all the surround speakers in columns. And building a mini riser for the seating 

wood is coming today. So should be able to bang out most/all of the shell framing :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 02, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
It was the thing I really disliked about my first theater. Too narrow. That and I didn’t like the door in the back. Now it will be on the side wall just in front of the screen

I plan on placing all the surround speakers in columns. And building a mini riser for the seating

wood is coming today. So should be able to bang out most/all of the shell framing :)
With only one row of seating, why do you need a riser ? 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 02, 2020, 07:57:14 PM
With only one row of seating, why do you need a riser ?
A mini riser. Like 4” to get the suspended floor tactile feel :)

anyhow got 3/4 walls framed today along with the over the screen soffit 

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 03, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
I’ll have today’s updates up soon

But any I put on drop ceilings? Are they bad for sound. I know they make absorbing panels but for me
Are cost prohibitive. Original plan is to drywall the ceiling. But exploring options. 

Thanks 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 03, 2020, 05:17:22 PM
I’ll have today’s updates up soon

But any I put on drop ceilings? Are they bad for sound. I know they make absorbing panels but for me
Are cost prohibitive. Original plan is to drywall the ceiling. But exploring options.

Thanks

You can get a lot of noise from a drop ceiling if you have a lot of subs. If a lot of subs, glue and screw the drywall. Heck, I screwed all the framing together.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 03, 2020, 05:34:03 PM
Thanks mike. 

Yeah i have. Soon to be 5 18’s in the room

I’ll do drywall :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 03, 2020, 06:09:35 PM
So for simplicity sake I decided to make the knee wall a full wall and finished the back wall and soffit around the hvac made three trips to Hd cause I ran out of wood twice. And nails for the framing gun 
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 04, 2020, 06:48:19 AM
Next question. Suspended projector box before or after drywall

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 04, 2020, 09:39:40 AM
Next question. Suspended projector box before or after drywall
If you are trying to sound isolate, then after. If you are not doing resilient channel, drywall, green glue and more drywall, then I don't think it matters a whole lot. You are moving right along.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 04, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
If you are trying to sound isolate, then after. If you are not doing resilient channel, drywall, green glue and more drywall, then I don't think it matters a whole lot. You are moving right along.
Thank you. Yeah it feels way faster than the first build. 

got the rough 20a circuit in for the amps And the 15a for the lights.

Both dedicated to the theater

also got all but the subs and left rear atmos speaker wire in. Of course i ran out lol. 

actually ran out of 14ga romex too. Uggg

Anyway here are the pics. Kinda boring. 
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 05, 2020, 08:34:34 PM
Only a little done today.  Waiting on more speaker wire. 
Threw up some drywall on the outside back wall of the theater. So finally have a feeling of what the screen wall will look like from the seats 
Was able to make a quick trip to grab can lights, some 2x3’s to frame in the electrical panel, and start grabbing Insulation 

Well half way to the orange store. I realized I took my bmw sedan. And not the wife’s Volvo suv. Lol. No wood or insulation for me today 

So got the 4 can lights installed and wired. Success my first HT dedicated circuit works!!  

On to pics:

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 05, 2020, 08:36:59 PM
Usually you hang the ceiling first.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 05, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Usually you hang the ceiling first.
No the cans are new construction cans you nail to the joists. The bulbs are just hanging there for light. You take those out. Then put up the drywall and cutout the lights circles :)

if you were making a joke sorry lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 05, 2020, 11:45:25 PM
No the cans are new construction cans you nail to the joists. The bulbs are just hanging there for light. You take those out. Then put up the drywall and cutout the lights circles :)

if you were making a joke sorry lol

No joke. I was a commercial general contractor for over 20 years. You hang the ceiling first. That is standard practice. You cut the holes for the lights and after hanging a few sheets, can wire temporary lights hanging from the openings in the drywall or you can have work lights below. Doing the ceiling first means the walls can help support the edges of the drywall.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 07:49:27 AM
No joke. I was a commercial general contractor for over 20 years. You hang the ceiling first. That is standard practice. You cut the holes for the lights and after hanging a few sheets, can wire temporary lights hanging from the openings in the drywall or you can have work lights below. Doing the ceiling first means the walls can help support the edges of the drywall.
Ooooh. You were talking about the wall of drywall i. put up. 
that’s on the exterior of the theater where there will w drop ceiling 

inside the theater the ceiling will 100% be hung first with drywall. The cans are installed ready for drywall to be placed over them 


sorry for the misunderstanding 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 12:04:47 PM
I’m
In the debate mode weather I should recess the surrounds and ceiling volt 6’s into the walls/ceiling as much as I can and make fabric panels to hide them. Also debating columns on the sides and rears. 

Or just surface mount everything. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 06, 2020, 01:46:53 PM
Ooooh. You were talking about the wall of drywall i. put up.
that’s on the exterior of the theater where there will w drop ceiling

inside the theater the ceiling will 100% be hung first with drywall. The cans are installed ready for drywall to be placed over them


sorry for the misunderstanding
That makes sense. I was in commercial construction for 20+ years too. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 06, 2020, 01:50:38 PM
I’m
In the debate mode weather I should recess the surrounds and ceiling volt 6’s into the walls/ceiling as much as I can and make fabric panels to hide them. Also debating columns on the sides and rears.

Or just surface mount everything.
One thing about surface mounting - it's possible to move the side surround speakers if you should decide to move your seating closer to the screen. I've done that twice, in the march from 1080p DLP to eshift 4K to native 4K. If you are 100% certain your seats are where they will stay, then it won't matter. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 02:38:45 PM
One thing about surface mounting - it's possible to move the side surround speakers if you should decide to move your seating closer to the screen. I've done that twice, in the march from 1080p DLP to eshift 4K to native 4K. If you are 100% certain your seats are where they will stay, then it won't matter.
great point.

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 02:40:19 PM
got a quote for $400 to drywall (not mud and tape) the entire theater and ceiling plus outside walls ...good price?  friend of the family
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 06, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
got a quote for $400 to drywall (not mud and tape) the entire theater and ceiling plus outside walls ...good price?  friend of the family
Considering I don't want to ever hang sheetrock again, any price is a good price. Get a couple more bids ! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 03:20:13 PM
Mounted the atmos boxes in the joists so they will be hidden. I’ll be making speaker grills for them. To hide them once the drywall is finished 

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 06, 2020, 05:09:17 PM
I am using Volt-8's for atmos and Volt-10's for side and rear surrounds. I surface mounted. I particularly wanted to be able to aim the atmos speakers. So I built U brackets for them. Can rotate and tilt the speakers.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 06, 2020, 07:52:24 PM
I am using Volt-8's for atmos and Volt-10's for side and rear surrounds. I surface mounted. I particularly wanted to be able to aim the atmos speakers. So I built U brackets for them. Can rotate and tilt the speakers.
The good thing about the volts is the great wide dispersion they have. While i did have them angled in the old theater. I don’t think it was actually necessary. I’m looking forward to the wider space between the speakers. Old theater they were close together. Less than ideal
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 08, 2020, 08:05:03 AM
Got quite a bit done yesterday...

Finished the electrical wiring...ran front subwoofer speaker wire (ran out AGAIN...so more is coming tomorrow)..still need to run rear sub wire...Front R main, and back left Atmos cables...

I framed in the Electrial panel...so i can be covered with an easily removeable fabric panel to match the rest of the room....ANy recommendations what to use to attach it with?  (magnets? velcro?)

Stuffed the walls and soffits with insulation...and finally cut into the HVAC line to get a regiester to feed into the room from the rear soffit......also Marked off on the floor all the studs in the room...for when I hang speakers and the projector lol

left to do before saturday..

Wire for

rear sub
riser transducer
Front Main
Left back Atmos

finish insulation stuffing

hope im not forgetting anything.....Saturday is drywall getting hung

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 11, 2020, 09:14:50 AM
question...if I am 100% covering my walls with fabric panels (with treatments in some) do i need to mud and tape those walls underneath?

thanks
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on September 11, 2020, 10:34:31 AM
question...if I am 100% covering my walls with fabric panels (with treatments in some) do i need to mud and tape those walls underneath?

thanks
You local building codes may require it for fire. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 11, 2020, 11:30:22 AM
question...if I am 100% covering my walls with fabric panels (with treatments in some) do i need to mud and tape those walls underneath?

thanks
I'd say yes. But you won't need to finish it for paint, so it will be much faster and easier ! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 11, 2020, 11:59:51 AM
Thanks guys. What I figured. I’ll do a 1 coat :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 11, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
Also less sound escaping to other areas, with it mudded and taped. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 11, 2020, 06:26:17 PM
Let’s gooo. Been in a holding pattern.  But tomorrow board goes up. Then I can start mud/taping

Build the mini riser

Build PJ box

Paint the ceiling.

Make fabric panels

Carpet

Build screen wall. Stuff cavity w speakers 

Rebuild screen

Baseboard and trim 

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 12, 2020, 03:31:02 PM
Drywall done! What would have taken me
At least 3-4 days. Done in about 4 hours. Well worth $400

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 14, 2020, 08:42:52 PM
Oof. Mudding and taping is exhausting. Tape and first coat up 

Man I don’t envy but admire skilled laborers

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 15, 2020, 10:50:02 AM
Most people do not know how exhausting it is to hold your hands above your head long enough to mud and tape a ceiling. It is a lot tougher than most realize. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 16, 2020, 02:02:27 PM
Most people do not know how exhausting it is to hold your hands above your head long enough to mud and tape a ceiling. It is a lot tougher than most realize.
Yup it’s brutal. That and wiring lights  etc in the ceiling. Oof

3rd layer of mud going on tonight. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 16, 2020, 07:39:00 PM
Wall fabric panels are coming up soon. 

Build and Install them first? Then Install crown moulding over them? I forget how I did it in the first build
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 17, 2020, 09:22:03 AM
Wall fabric panels are coming up soon.

Build and Install them first? Then Install crown moulding over them? I forget how I did it in the first build
You have a picture of what you are wanting this to look like? I would probably install blocking for the crown to bring it out flush with the wall panel. Then install the crown first. Same for the ceiling, if installing panels there. Installing crown on top of the panels would be a lot harder and more waste of material, because you would have to break the crown only where you have something solid to attach to. In other words, only at a panel edge.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 17, 2020, 11:57:11 AM
valid...but couldnt I just attach the crown to any part of the fabric frame? im just concerned there will be a gap between the panel and the crown block
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 17, 2020, 01:45:16 PM
valid...but couldnt I just attach the crown to any part of the fabric frame? im just concerned there will be a gap between the panel and the crown block
Let's say the crown will stick down from the ceiling 4" and the fabric panel is 1" thick. Cut a strip of wood blocking that is 7/8" thick and fasten it to the wall so that the bottom is 3-3/4" down from the ceiling. Now when you put the panel up, no way the blocking could show and yet you have a nice solid surface to fasten the crown. Also you will be able to break the crown anywhere, rather than just where you have solid blocking in a panel. Believe me this will be faster and look much better. Solving construction build problems like this is what I did for over 25 years. :) 

The added benefit, if a panel gets damaged, it can easily be replaced. If crown is on top of it, it will be a nightmare to replace. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 17, 2020, 02:36:37 PM
awesome!  so in essence there is a little lip of the crown hanging down for the panel to nestle under? thank you that makes perfect sense!  please dont take my questions as doubting what you are saying...im using them for clarification and to learn :)  I appreciate your expertise.

what it the best way to rip boards to a smaller size...i dont have a table saw...perhaps I should borrow one?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 18, 2020, 08:34:26 AM
so major step backwards....

put up primer and then paint....when the black paint went on all the joints bubbled....and the tape even started to come down in spots!  so i had to rip down the tape...and start over in those spots....I used mesh tape and it seems t be working better....

i will sand and repaint those spots....fingers crossed...

SO FRUSTRATING....but cant be all puppy dogs and ice cream right? lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 18, 2020, 09:26:10 AM
awesome!  so in essence there is a little lip of the crown hanging down for the panel to nestle under? thank you that makes perfect sense!  please dont take my questions as doubting what you are saying...im using them for clarification and to learn :)  I appreciate your expertise.

what it the best way to rip boards to a smaller size...i dont have a table saw...perhaps I should borrow one?
Cheap way is to clamp a straight edge to the board you are ripping. Did your skill saw come with a rip guide or can one be added? Also can buy a clampining rip guide.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 21, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
Got the platform(mini riser) for the seating framed. Just got the insulation and plywood to put on it

Do I need roofing felt??

Also got the projector box built and installed. The rs600 fits perfectly. 

Painted it up to match too

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 21, 2020, 05:57:52 PM
I started to ask if you had a way to get air into the back, then I scrolled down. :)  You do know that you will have to build another box, when you upgrade, since JVC's are bigger now?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 21, 2020, 06:16:05 PM
I started to ask if you had a way to get air into the back, then I scrolled down. :)  You do know that you will have to build another box, when you upgrade, since JVC's are bigger now?
arent the vents in the front anyhow?

and what better reason to not upgrade!  lol..worst case i build a new one

so whats the consensus on roofing felt?  about to screw down the plywood but dont want to then realize I made a mistake
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 21, 2020, 10:09:10 PM
arent the vents in the front anyhow?

and what better reason to not upgrade!  lol..worst case i build a new one

so whats the consensus on roofing felt?  about to screw down the plywood but dont want to then realize I made a mistake
The two vents on the front are exhaust. The two vents at the back are intake. There is another vent on the bottom, at the front of the projector that is also an intake. As long as you have cool air available from the room the back of the projector is in, projector will be fine.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 23, 2020, 10:30:33 AM
so my buddy who does carpeting for a living (family business) is coing over tonight to finish my riser...and take final measurements for the carpeting.  

We are replacing the OSB I bought for the floor with 3/4" plywood....he said no need for felt...unless we were doing 2 layers of 3/4"

Im thinking of cutting venting in the corners to act as a bass trap....;)

ill post pics after its completed
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 23, 2020, 09:42:24 PM
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 24, 2020, 03:06:11 PM
You are moving along quickly. :) 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 24, 2020, 04:01:46 PM
You are moving along quickly. :)
Trying to. Without actually rushing. Lol
carpet should be going in soon. So I can build the fabric panels in the room. ;)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 25, 2020, 11:08:49 AM

so kind of realized where i wired for the side surrounds will be slightly (maybe 20 degrees tops) in front of the MLP....is that an issue?  should i rewire?

this is a 7.4.4 Atmos configuration using Volt 6's as surrounds

but i DID wire all my Atmos volt 6's and wired up my wall plates and entire rack....played some atmos tracks with the ceiling speakers only engaged...and man was that fun!  LOVING the higher ceilings and properly separated atmos speakers....this is gonna be awesome.....also really an eye opener of how important subwoofers are lol

-B
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 25, 2020, 11:45:07 AM
so kind of realized where i wired for the side surrounds will be slightly (maybe 20 degrees tops) in front of the MLP....is that an issue?  should i rewire?

this is a 7.4.4 Atmos configuration using Volt 6's as surrounds

but i DID wire all my Atmos volt 6's and wired up my wall plates and entire rack....played some atmos tracks with the ceiling speakers only engaged...and man was that fun!  LOVING the higher ceilings and properly separated atmos speakers....this is gonna be awesome.....also really an eye opener of how important subwoofers are lol

-B
Maybe you are subconsciously making sure you can move your seating forward someday. ::)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 25, 2020, 12:06:54 PM
so kind of realized where i wired for the side surrounds will be slightly (maybe 20 degrees tops) in front of the MLP....is that an issue?  should i rewire?

this is a 7.4.4 Atmos configuration using Volt 6's as surrounds

but i DID wire all my Atmos volt 6's and wired up my wall plates and entire rack....played some atmos tracks with the ceiling speakers only engaged...and man was that fun!  LOVING the higher ceilings and properly separated atmos speakers....this is gonna be awesome.....also really an eye opener of how important subwoofers are lol

-B
You will be fine. I know a whole group of guys that intentionally place their side surrounds this way.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 25, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
You will be fine. I know a whole group of guys that intentionally place their side surrounds this way.
ok cool....and good to know...its been ingrained in my brain to have them 90 degrees...so i was like...uh oh!!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 27, 2020, 09:50:22 AM
So I hooked up

The ceiling speakers for atmos.  And played some demo clips. Omg. It sounds so much more realistic being higher and spread out more! And it was missing the 7 speakers ear level lol

Getting exciting 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 28, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
Carpets going in in about an hour! Wooooo
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 29, 2020, 07:39:17 AM
Carpets in! And as usual it’s actually darker than pics. Looks great. 

Still can’t get over the size difference an extra 3’ makes. 

So logistically I had to move the speakers and seats onto the theater so I could make room to finish the rest of the basement (more mudding and taping yay!) but it feels great to have most setup again! Hooked up the front three speakers and for good measure put the PJ in its cubby :)

Now for some pics. The bald guy is my buddy who owns the carpet business. Helping me install the carpet. Good to have friends!
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Next up...(while finished the rest of the basement so the wife doesn’t kill me) 

-Build minimalist screen wall and screen 
-install backing for crown and base moulding 
- Install surround speakers and wire. Along with subs
-build and install wall treatments and fabric panels 
-build and install masking for screen wall
-install crown and base moulding
-install door and add treatment to it

Enjoy first movie. Any bets on how long that will all take??

:)

-B
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 29, 2020, 10:57:22 AM
Nice. Moving right along. You should be finish by Thanksgiving, right ? :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 29, 2020, 11:15:39 AM
Nice. Moving right along. You should be finish by Thanksgiving, right ? :)
if im not done by thanksgiving Ill be quite upset lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: jkasanic on September 29, 2020, 12:03:18 PM
I like how you say your buddy is helping you install the carpet and then post pics of only him working! 🤣

Nice job so far. I wish I could do this stuff myself. Thinking of moving and my wife keeps looking at me strange when I bee line for the basements! 🤷🏼
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 29, 2020, 01:02:18 PM
I like how you say your buddy is helping you install the carpet and then post pics of only him working! 🤣

Nice job so far. I wish I could do this stuff myself. Thinking of moving and my wife keeps looking at me strange when I bee line for the basements! 🤷🏼
HEY! i helped hammer the tack strip down lmao ;D I did feel bad for not being able to help much but he is the one that owns a carpet business lol....but I will be helping him build his and there will be plenty of times he will be standing watching me lol....

thanks for the kind words!  that was my favorite part of house hunting....looking at the spaces available in the basement and thinking if it would work for a HT
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 29, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
HEY! i helped hammer the tack strip down lmao ;D I did feel bad for not being able to help much but he is the one that owns a carpet business lol....but I will be helping him build his and there will be plenty of times he will be standing watching me lol....

thanks for the kind words!  that was my favorite part of house hunting....looking at the spaces available in the basement and thinking if it would work for a HT
No basements here in CA, but I looked for rooms that would work when we were house hunting. Turns out a bonus room over a 2+ car garage works perfectly too ! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 29, 2020, 02:06:59 PM
No basements here in CA, but I looked for rooms that would work when we were house hunting. Turns out a bonus room over a 2+ car garage works perfectly too !
sure does!  Def a great space for a theater for sure!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on September 29, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
You know that moving in the equipment and seats before the theater is completed is a progress killer. Hard to finish, when you can go in there and just watch movies. It usually adds months to the build time. :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 29, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
You know that moving in the equipment and seats before the theater is completed is a progress killer. Hard to finish, when you can go in there and just watch movies. It usually adds months to the build time. :)
That’s the gamble I’m willing to take hahahah
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on September 29, 2020, 08:31:48 PM
No basements here in CA, but I looked for rooms that would work when we were house hunting. Turns out a bonus room over a 2+ car garage works perfectly too !
I floated the idea of using the master bedroom as a theater...that went over like a fart in church :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on September 29, 2020, 08:46:48 PM
I floated the idea of using the master bedroom as a theater...that went over like a fart in church :)
That wouldn't work in our house either. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on September 30, 2020, 09:05:56 AM
That wouldn't work in our house either.
i had to struggle to get a section of the basement that NOONE ever uses lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 01, 2020, 08:43:47 AM
Small update

Got the goal
Post screen wall up along with rebuilding the screen frame. Need to grab magnets to put into the frame for the 1.85 masking panels. 

Also put up an old salvaged fabric panel to see if I like the large panels. I think I’m going with 2x2 panels

And had to setup the tv to watch the game haha and work

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on October 01, 2020, 10:50:23 AM
Now all you have to do is build a whole bunch of panels. You will be sick of building panels when you are done, but it will transform the whole look of the theater. :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 01, 2020, 11:12:55 AM
Now all you have to do is build a whole bunch of panels. You will be sick of building panels when you are done, but it will transform the whole look of the theater. :)
yup!  bought some wood already for them and a 45 deg champher bit for the router.  def not looking forward to building them....but yes will make it look almost finished....at least i have the TV to keep my attention lol

some OC703 is being delivered next week.  i still have to "not tightly stuff" the screenwall cavity with r49...and wrap my screen with spandex..

"so little to do...so much time....scratch that....reverse it.."
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on October 01, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
I would build a whole bunch of panels and then start installing them at the front. That way you can get the screen in place and actually use the theater, if wanted. You can't go places right now, so getting it usable is what I would do. Because fastening panels is not a messy job and you can add them as you get several more built.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 01, 2020, 12:31:47 PM
I would build a whole bunch of panels and then start installing them at the front. That way you can get the screen in place and actually use the theater, if wanted. You can't go places right now, so getting it usable is what I would do. Because fastening panels is not a messy job and you can add them as you get several more built.
you sir....are wise beyond your years! 

consider it being done ;)...first panels will be the velvet blackout panels for around the screen...then ill work my way back from there
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 01, 2020, 10:37:36 PM
Well there it is. Screen rewrapped and hung. Bad news watched a full movie lol 

No worries I’m not one to keep from completing things. Just was over a month since I watched a movie. So watched “passengers” 

Only bummer is I remembered to put magnets on for masking panels after I already had the spandex in. Uggg. So no masking panels. Unless you guys can figure another way to attach them when needed

Pics

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 02, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Ill be filling the screen wall w pink fluffy...should i cut it smaller so i can stack the pieces horizontally as opposed to vertically?

I watched a movie last night w zero acoustic treatments and was shocked how good it sounded....so we are in a good starting spot!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 02, 2020, 10:05:25 PM
Velvet panels built and installed. You can see the pink fluffy behind the screen. Filling all cavities I ran a little short but will go back and put more in

Best purchase I made since last build. The pneumatic stapler   Wow wrapping panels is soooooo much easier than a hand stapler lol

Pics:
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on October 03, 2020, 01:53:48 AM
Looking great. When I built my panels I wish I had your stapler! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 03, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Looking great. When I built my panels I wish I had your stapler!
Thank you!  Best $30 I ever spent lol literally cut the build of those in half at least. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 03, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
First side wall panels up! Stuffed with lineacoustic more velvet. Black hole near the screen :)
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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on October 03, 2020, 07:35:41 PM
What are you doing for a door?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 03, 2020, 09:08:33 PM
What are you doing for a door?
Solid core. Kinda been slacking on getting it bought and put in. Lol. My father in law the builder will put it in for me
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: jkasanic on October 05, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
Velvet panels built and installed. You can see the pink fluffy behind the screen. Filling all cavities I ran a little short but will go back and put more in
Like I said in Mike’s thread, I didn’t have much luck making an acoustical impact in my front soundstage but since you’re going ahead and doing it, make sure not to stack the pink stuff on itself. Either staple it or build some shelving support every couple of feet. This stuff changes dramatically under compression.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 05, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Like I said in Mike’s thread, I didn’t have much luck making an acoustical impact in my front soundstage but since you’re going ahead and doing it, make sure not to stack the pink stuff on itself. Either staple it or build some shelving support every couple of feet. This stuff changes dramatically under compression.
Great tip. Thank you!! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 06, 2020, 08:28:23 AM
kind of stalled with building...kind of funny how that happens.

started the fabric panels and cleaned out HD of all their wood i use for them....used them up...now jjst have to wait for more wood to come in.

decided on large panels that go vertically since i already established a "seam" with the velvet panels....also started making 2x2 panels....and if i did that (although might look cool) would take me FOREVER..lol...ex. i did 32 sq' in about 45 mins with the large panels, and 8 sq' with small panels in 2 hours

ill post a pic shortly of the one panel i got done
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 06, 2020, 08:31:07 AM
All panels will either have oc703, lineacoustic, or poly batt depending on locationion. This one has oc703 with scrim pieces for some deflection

(https://i.ibb.co/61gKykp/16-F2-E8-D1-7-ECC-4508-8-C1-E-1601-AD27-C7-FA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4YPbFHD)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on October 06, 2020, 12:14:58 PM
Looking good. Going with full height larger panels makes sense. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: jkasanic on October 06, 2020, 12:30:52 PM
All panels will either have oc703, lineacoustic, or poly batt see didnt in loscation. This one has oc703 with scrim prices for some deflection
Will this be the extent of your room treatments or will you add any broadband absorption panels at lateral (and contra-lateral) reflection points?  What about back wall?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 06, 2020, 01:49:44 PM
Will this be the extent of your room treatments or will you add any broadband absorption panels at lateral (and contra-lateral) reflection points?  What about back wall?
i will have a mixture between absorption and refelctive panels (basically untreated panels or OC703 with the foil tape on them) on both side walls and rear walls.

I used this same type setup in version 1.0 and it worked very well...that along with dirac :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 06, 2020, 01:51:49 PM
Looking good. Going with full height larger panels makes sense.
thanks!  I was so torn between the two...but making larger panels is just well, easier.  Easier and faster. I can always change them down the road should I care to for color and/or size.  they are only held in with a few brad nails and should be easy to replace

I was stressing over it, and my wife made a good point....no one will see it when the lights are off (and even then in 5 years we had ONE couple over to watch a movie in version 1.0)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 08, 2020, 05:19:55 PM
Few more panels made today. Getting there. I have a feeling the ones around the speakers are gonna be challenging 

Already clap echo is WAY down. 

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on October 09, 2020, 11:14:50 AM
Getting closer. :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 09, 2020, 11:25:06 AM
Getting closer. :)
yup!

the next few panels are gonna be tricky...making a "C" shape....ill figure it out :)

then the back wall should be fast.....
then the next big challenge is to figure how to create a large removeable panel to cover the electrical panel.

also the door..and its fabric panels lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 10, 2020, 10:37:17 PM
First panel up around the surround speaker. Was not as hard as I first thought. Really happy how it came out

Only got the one done. Spent most the day mudding  the rest of the basement

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on October 10, 2020, 11:29:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing the room with completed panels. :) 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 11, 2020, 06:44:53 AM
Looking forward to seeing the room with completed panels. :)
Thanks Mike! You and me both lol
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 13, 2020, 08:09:55 AM
Got the door hung...easy

Put panel(s) in the door. Not so easy. I tried one big panel and that was a nightmare lol. So I broke it into two small panels and a gap filler panel. And I actually like the little happy accident it makes as a design. Glad that parts over lol. Just the back of the theater to go...gonna take a break though. 1. It’s pouring out. And I do all my cuts outside. 2. I’m so sick of building frames and  stretching  fabric lol

(Also have to paint the door jam black)

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 15, 2020, 12:12:00 PM
Finished a few more panels. The one covering the control panels the bottom wood frame broke as I was putting it up. I was able to bandaid it for the time being. But you can see the slight bow. I will repair it down the line lol

Also a before and after pic for reference 

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on October 15, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
How are you affixing those to the walls?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 15, 2020, 05:23:20 PM
How are you affixing those to the walls?
The main panels im using 2” brad nails. 

the Ones  over the control panels are held by Velcro 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 20, 2020, 01:44:31 PM
So nothing new to report.  Been working on the rest of the basement finish, made a run to the dump (so happy i did that was getting stressed by the mess0.

I only have the backwall to finish in the theater.  Been watching a lot of movies though which is good.  I will def finish it so don't worry, I'm not that guy for sure, but have to get the basement in order for the inspection of the new insurance company!  Yep ours dropped us from this small claim, absolutely ridiculous, they want to collect the years of premium payments but don't want to pay out A $7,000 CLAIM smh

Also some sad news, yesterday was one of the hardest things i have ever had to do, I had to put our dog Emma (13 year old puggle) down :'( she couldn't walk well, lift her head or eat very well.  Her quality of life really dropped in the past week nor two.  So sad, I am still reeling from the whole experience, gut wrenching!

Anyways Hope al is well with everyone, more updates to come
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on October 20, 2020, 02:48:15 PM
Sorry about your dog - that's always hard to do. :'(
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on October 20, 2020, 02:49:18 PM
So nothing new to report.  Been working on the rest of the basement finish, made a run to the dump (so happy i did that was getting stressed by the mess0.

I only have the backwall to finish in the theater.  Been watching a lot of movies though which is good.  I will def finish it so don't worry, I'm not that guy for sure, but have to get the basement in order for the inspection of the new insurance company!  Yep ours dropped us from this small claim, absolutely ridiculous, they want to collect the years of premium payments but don't want to pay out A $7,000 CLAIM smh

Also some sad news, yesterday was one of the hardest things i have ever had to do, I had to put our dog Emma (13 year old puggle) down :'( she couldn't walk well, lift her head or eat very well.  Her quality of life really dropped in the past week nor two.  So sad, I am still reeling from the whole experience, gut wrenching!

Anyways Hope al is well with everyone, more updates to come
So sorry to hear about your dog. I'll be in a similar situation soon. Our 12 year old dog has Cushings Disease and generally the life expectancy once they come down with it is about 24 months or so and it's bee about 9 months now. So far the homeopathic treatment we have him on is going well but he doesn't have the energy he once had. I dread that last trip the vet and I can sympathize with the pain you're going through. Whatever you do, avoid watching "The Art of Racing in the Rain" unless you want to ball your eyes out.   
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 20, 2020, 03:00:29 PM
thanks guys! such a hard thing...

David I dont need to watch it to have balled my eyes out, last night was enough lol.  I balled that way watching Marlie and Me. No thanks! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Paul Heroy on October 20, 2020, 07:15:16 PM
Been there. Wife & I have been adopting rescue dogs the last several years. Have 2 now. Our 1st developed pancreatic cancer after 6 months (she was only around 5-6 years old) and even though that's all the time we had with her we developed a lot of bonding and love - my wife bawled for a week. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on October 20, 2020, 08:19:22 PM
Been there. Wife & I have been adopting rescue dogs the last several years. Have 2 now. Our 1st developed pancreatic cancer after 6 months (she was only around 5-6 years old) and even though that's all the time we had with her we developed a lot of bonding and love - my wife bawled for a week.
Sorry to hear that. Our dog is a rescue as well and he's so loving. We will miss him a lot. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 24, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
almost done with fabric panels. Have to redo a few cause for some reason unknown I stopped used keep pocket screws and went to brad nails to hold the frames together. And they don’t allow for the fabric to stay tight. Also I ran out of wood (agin)

3 more panels to go. And 1 redo

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 24, 2020, 09:22:12 PM
Done! Don’t want to see another fabric panel for a looong time 

Just small things to finish up

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on October 24, 2020, 10:36:16 PM
Are all of your panels hollow or did you put absorption material in them? 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 25, 2020, 05:32:45 AM
Are all of your panels hollow or did you put absorption material in them?
Most are filled with oc703 and some have oc703 with reflective tape to not totally kill the room 

a few panels are only filled with poly batt
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on October 30, 2020, 10:30:51 AM
well wasnt able to get the spyder5 connected nor the JVC to the laoptop...but the rs600 still looking great!

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 10, 2020, 09:47:49 AM
so just recently added a laptop to the mix to use BEQ with a 2x4hd

the bass is so incredible now its not even funny. I also finally downloaded the newest version of REW and used the room setup tool, and found if i move my rear sub 2' to its left i would get rid of a nasty dip at 40hz (which dirac fixed but would rather be flat without EQ first) And sure enough the move helped.  I am not INSANELY flat down to 5hz.  I have actually never had a response this flat.  pretty excited about it tbh

These tools are amazing, I love the new theater, not only for its much bigger size which = better sound, but for ease of use with setting up the measuring equipment etc.  Was always a pain in the butt in the old theater and where the AV rack was.

I'll post my FR when i get home tonight :)

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 10, 2020, 02:22:00 PM
FR of subs after moving rear sub a few feet
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on November 10, 2020, 04:31:41 PM
Is that for three UM18's?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 10, 2020, 04:52:04 PM
Is that for three UM18's?
4. 3 across the front. 1 in the back
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on November 11, 2020, 12:01:46 PM
4. 3 across the front. 1 in the back
Nice response with four UM18's. I have a couple of those paired with an 18" Maltrom-X, 18" REXXX and a couple of SI-18's.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 11, 2020, 03:52:23 PM
Nice response with four UM18's. I have a couple of those paired with an 18" Maltrom-X, 18" REXXX and a couple of SI-18's.
I bet that sounds amazing!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 18, 2020, 10:17:39 AM
so Im in the 98% done phase...where the last 2% wont happen for a long time

almost done with the rest fo the basement (flooring goes in tonight).  have to do baseboards and trim in the basement, and the drop ceiling

Left for the theater is, Speaker grills for atmos speakers and fix a few panels Im not happy with

been watching a TON of movies with BEQ 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 30, 2020, 12:13:21 PM
Added the lumagen radiance pro. Although pricey it’s like I just got a brand new projector. Wow this thing is money. The black level and color saturation are off the charts!

And now Blu-ray’s rival 4k discs. I’m beyond impressed

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on November 30, 2020, 12:16:57 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 30, 2020, 12:48:07 PM
Looks great!
Thanks!  I was def a non believer. But this thing is legit!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on November 30, 2020, 04:42:52 PM
Thanks!  I was def a non believer. But this thing is legit!
Same here. It ( and the DCR lens ) made my RS4500 like a new projector. And every time Lumagen makes a firmware improvement, it gets better yet again !
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on November 30, 2020, 04:56:34 PM
Same here. It ( and the DCR lens ) made my RS4500 like a new projector. And every time Lumagen makes a firmware improvement, it gets better yet again !
Def glad they constantly update it to makeit
better. Makes the entry price easier to swallow knowing they are still working on it and making it better constantly 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 19, 2020, 10:04:22 AM
This has been finished for a couple weeks. But this is the kids area now. This view is from where the screen used to be in my og theater. You can now see the “behind the screen wall” on the right and the door to the theater just to the right of that

Love the new basement. 

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Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 27, 2020, 05:05:36 PM
Some pics of guardians of the galaxy w my new iPhone 12 pro max :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 27, 2020, 06:44:21 PM
Few more 

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 03, 2021, 11:48:00 AM
so a friend of mine is gracious enough to build me a starter NAS (i will have to just upgrade the discs to larger discs to hold my movie collection) 

he is pre installing the current small 2TB discs with about 50 movies I own on 4K....and EMBY to run the movies off the ATV 4K.

Im very excited about this.  will be nice to be able to scroll through and browse what movies i have without putting a disc in (i still have to load BEQ's but thats not a huge deal and not a necessity.)

any recommendations on HDD?

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Paul Heroy on January 03, 2021, 01:57:45 PM
The standard drives used in NAS are the Western Digital Red series or Seagate Iron Wolf. Both are tweaked expressly for NAS use.  Just figure out how much storage you need and get the right size - depending on how your NAS is setup you will be able to use around 1/2 to 2/3 of that space so calculate accordingly. Your friend should be able to tell you that ratio.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 03, 2021, 05:32:51 PM
The standard drives used in NAS are the Western Digital Red series or Seagate Iron Wolf. Both are tweaked expressly for NAS use.  Just figure out how much storage you need and get the right size - depending on how your NAS is setup you will be able to use around 1/2 to 2/3 of that space so calculate accordingly. Your friend should be able to tell you that ratio.
Thanks @jkasanic helped me out with this! That’s my “friend” forgot he was on this forum hahah.


are the WD Red worth the premium cost?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Paul Heroy on January 03, 2021, 10:51:41 PM
Thanks @jkasanic helped me out with this! That’s my “friend” forgot he was on this forum hahah.


are the WD Red worth the premium cost?
Do you mean the Red "Pro" drives? For reference here's what I see for 6TB drives right now on Amazon:

WD Red: $125
Seagate Iron Wolf: $147
WD Red Pro: $179

The Red Pro has a higher RPM (7200 vs 5400) and other high capacity performance type stuff (like supposedly being designed for a NAS with up to 24 bays) which almost certainly won't matter. It also has a 5 year vs 3 year warranty. 

If you mean Red vs other options like WD Blue or Green, I wouldn't. Stick with the NAS designed drives for a NAS - it's a different environment with potentially more heat in a small space compared to say a desktop drive. The only other WD I would possibly consider is a Purple, which is designed for surveillance/DVR use case where it's constantly going - but it's more expensive than the Red as a result.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 04, 2021, 07:53:06 AM
Do you mean the Red "Pro" drives? For reference here's what I see for 6TB drives right now on Amazon:

WD Red: $125
Seagate Iron Wolf: $147
WD Red Pro: $179

The Red Pro has a higher RPM (7200 vs 5400) and other high capacity performance type stuff (like supposedly being designed for a NAS with up to 24 bays) which almost certainly won't matter. It also has a 5 year vs 3 year warranty.

If you mean Red vs other options like WD Blue or Green, I wouldn't. Stick with the NAS designed drives for a NAS - it's a different environment with potentially more heat in a small space compared to say a desktop drive. The only other WD I would possibly consider is a Purple, which is designed for surveillance/DVR use case where it's constantly going - but it's more expensive than the Red as a result.
Thanks!  We are also looking at buying external drives  as shucking them. 
I want larger drives as I have a ton of movie. 

B
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 09, 2021, 10:40:37 AM
Up to about 425 4K  UHD bluray rips on my NAS :) still have 12TB free.  loving this thing!  so fun to be able to start and stop at will and change the movie if your not feeling it



Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 09, 2021, 12:36:18 PM
Up to about 425 4K  UHD bluray rips on my NAS :) still have 12TB free.  loving this thing!  so fun to be able to start and stop at will and change the movie if your not feeling it
My disc player does that now ! ;D
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: jkasanic on February 09, 2021, 06:12:35 PM
My disc player does that now ! ;D
Without getting out of your chair? 😜
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 10, 2021, 09:18:45 AM
My disc player does that now ! ;D
we get it.  you dont want a NAS.  there are PLENTY of people that do and love it.  including me :)

have fun sifting through your disc, loading and unloading the disc wait for it to boot, wait for th menu, wait for the warnings, wait for the trailers.  then realize you don't feel like watching the movie.  you get up stare at you storage rack rinse and repeat. I dont miss that in the least! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on February 10, 2021, 11:07:02 AM
Without getting out of your chair? 😜
You mean your wife does not do that for you? :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on February 10, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
we get it.  you dont want a NAS.  there are PLENTY of people that do and love it.  including me :)

have fun sifting through your disc, loading and unloading the disc wait for it to boot, wait for th menu, wait for the warnings, wait for the trailers.  then realize you don't feel like watching the movie.  you get up stare at you storage rack rinse and repeat. I dont miss that in the least!
I never have to watch trailers. I hit play on the disc and it goes direct to the movie. If I want, don't get out of the chair convenience, I can watch my movies on Vudu. A NAS is nice, but I do not want to rip movies. Did that already, years ago.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 10, 2021, 11:12:04 AM
Without getting out of your chair? 😜
I knew someone would say that, and all I can picture is the big fat guy that couldn't get out of his chair in Wall - E ! ;D
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 10, 2021, 11:14:22 AM
we get it.  you dont want a NAS.  there are PLENTY of people that do and love it.  including me :)

have fun sifting through your disc, loading and unloading the disc wait for it to boot, wait for th menu, wait for the warnings, wait for the trailers.  then realize you don't feel like watching the movie.  you get up stare at you storage rack rinse and repeat. I dont miss that in the least!
I never do that. But glad you are having fun with it. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 10, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
I never have to watch trailers. I hit play on the disc and it goes direct to the movie. If I want, don't get out of the chair convenience, I can watch my movies on Vudu. A NAS is nice, but I do not want to rip movies. Did that already, years ago.
valid,  but vudu is compressed.  def not spending this much money on PJ and video processor and atmos to have a compressed source

the NAS allows 1:1 remux.  
and some discs force the trailers and warnings, unless you have found some way around it

im really surprised as the close mindedness against the NAS on here.  isn't it a to each his own type of thing? 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 10, 2021, 11:48:16 AM
I knew someone would say that, and all I can picture is the big fat guy that couldn't get out of his chair in Wall - E ! ;D
well that guy is certainly NOT me.  lol  I am as active as it gets.  so sitting down to watch somthing and not have to get up again is pure relaxation time :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 10, 2021, 01:10:01 PM
well that guy is certainly NOT me.  lol  I am as active as it gets.  so sitting down to watch somthing and not have to get up again is pure relaxation time :)
I only get up when the movie is over, to escort my guests out, and go to bed. We have different use cases here. I almost never watch more than one movie in a row. My wife gets up 3 times during a movie to pee. No NAS is going to help her.  
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 10, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
lol.  maybe invest in adult diapers?  i swear women have the bladder the size of an acorn
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on February 10, 2021, 02:30:51 PM
lol.  maybe invest in adult diapers?  i swear women have the bladder the size of an acorn
My wife's is the size of a pea...literally. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 10, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
lol.  maybe invest in adult diapers?  i swear women have the bladder the size of an acorn
I just pause it for her. No biggy - time to pour myself more wine ! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 11, 2021, 07:03:29 AM
I just pause it for her. No biggy - time to pour myself more wine !
I know. Was just fooling around :)
if I drank while watching movies I wouldn’t make it to the end lol. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSMike on February 11, 2021, 10:42:15 AM
valid,  but vudu is compressed.  def not spending this much money on PJ and video processor and atmos to have a compressed source

the NAS allows 1:1 remux. 
and some discs force the trailers and warnings, unless you have found some way around it

im really surprised as the close mindedness against the NAS on here.  isn't it a to each his own type of thing?
It is not closed mindedness. I did an HTPC for many years. Granted things have improved, since then, but often times it was not trouble free, plus a lot of time was spent ripping movies. I have a hard enough time finding time to use my theater, I do not want to add more work to my current load. If you have the time to build a NAS, keep it updated and rip movies, it is a great solution. My brother (also engineer and computer Science major) loves his.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 11, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
It is not closed mindedness. I did an HTPC for many years. Granted things have improved, since then, but often times it was not trouble free, plus a lot of time was spent ripping movies. I have a hard enough time finding time to use my theater, I do not want to add more work to my current load. If you have the time to build a NAS, keep it updated and rip movies, it is a great solution. My brother (also engineer and computer Science major) loves his.
That’s all I was saying. Everyone was just downplaying it. Like it wasn’t a good solution. Despite me really loving it. So it seemed close minded. If it’s not for you that’s fine :)  I didn’t think it was for me till I had it in house. It’s worth every second on it for me. I enjoy tinkering w the theater and it was just plug and play for awhile. This gives me somthing to do in between movie sesh’s
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 12, 2021, 01:38:47 PM
just sold my Lumagen and upgraded to a brand new 4242.  made a profit on my old unit and added a warranty and updated capacitors.  excited to have the peace of mind with a new unit
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 12, 2021, 02:25:08 PM
just sold my Lumagen and upgraded to a brand new 4242.  made a profit on my old unit and added a warranty and updated capacitors.  excited to have the peace of mind with a new unit
Now you need a native 4K JVC. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 12, 2021, 02:51:57 PM
Now you need a native 4K JVC.
yes.  that the next upgrade in a few years when the nx7 goes on blowout for around $4k ;)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 12, 2021, 03:55:48 PM
yes.  that the next upgrade in a few years when the nx7 goes on blowout for around $4k ;)
Good luck with that. That's where my NAS money went - a native 4K projector. Cake first, then maybe frosting. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 12, 2021, 07:24:45 PM
Good luck with that. That's where my NAS money went - a native 4K projector. Cake first, then maybe frosting.
NAS was free thanks to jkasanic

And I’m quite content with the rs600 lumagen combo. Word is native 4K next to e-shift is barely noticeable if at all. I’ll take top of the line blacks and the lense of the rs600 (for now hahah)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on February 13, 2021, 06:38:25 PM
NAS was free thanks to jkasanic

And I’m quite content with the rs600 lumagen combo. Word is native 4K next to e-shift is barely noticeable if at all. I’ll take top of the line blacks and the lense of the rs600 (for now hahah)
Whos word? Remember, I had an RS600. Native 4K definitely looks sharper and cleaner, with less picture noise. Period.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 13, 2021, 10:14:00 PM
Whos word? Remember, I had an RS600. Native 4K definitely looks sharper and cleaner, with less picture noise. Period.
Many many professional reviewers who did it side by side.  Now I’m not saying there isnt a difference. But for now it’s not a must have upgrade.  Also not saying it’s not an upgrade I def want to make. Just not right now :)


I’d rather have 4K eshift and the contrast of the rs600 vs the native 4K of the rs1000 and much much lower contrast. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: randman on February 26, 2021, 10:20:54 AM
that was my favorite part of house hunting....looking at the spaces available in the basement and thinking if it would work for a HT
Ah, good to know I"m not the only one... I've been house hunting for a few months now, and always brought my laser tape measurer so I can take measurements of the basement. So many houses have support beams in just the wrong places for home theater use! I finally found a home that has a basement amenable for building an HT (with the bonus being that the family loves the rest of the house :-) ).

Regarding NAS - yeah, not for everyone (takes time for setting up and maintenance). I love the convenience of having one though. The movies aren't only easily accessible in the home theater, but they are accessible in many other places (bedroom, iPads, and even outside the home.). Remember though that even if the NAS uses RAID, it's important to have a second NAS to backup the first as insurance in case the first NAS has issues (maybe a disaster like a flood). Too much of a pain to have to re-rip hundreds of movies from the original media.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on February 26, 2021, 10:31:51 AM
Ah, good to know I"m not the only one... I've been house hunting for a few months now, and always brought my laser tape measurer so I can take measurements of the basement. So many houses have support beams in just the wrong places for home theater use! I finally found a home that has a basement amenable for building an HT (with the bonus being that the family loves the rest of the house :-) ).

Regarding NAS - yeah, not for everyone (takes time for setting up and maintenance). I love the convenience of having one though. The movies aren't only easily accessible in the home theater, but they are accessible in many other places (bedroom, iPads, and even outside the home.). Remember though that even if the NAS uses RAID, it's important to have a second NAS to backup the first as insurance in case the first NAS has issues (maybe a disaster like a flood). Too much of a pain to have to re-rip hundreds of movies from the original media.
def good advice. good luck with the hunt!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Paul Heroy on February 26, 2021, 11:12:13 AM
Regarding NAS - yeah, not for everyone (takes time for setting up and maintenance). I love the convenience of having one though. The movies aren't only easily accessible in the home theater, but they are accessible in many other places (bedroom, iPads, and even outside the home.). Remember though that even if the NAS uses RAID, it's important to have a second NAS to backup the first as insurance in case the first NAS has issues (maybe a disaster like a flood). Too much of a pain to have to re-rip hundreds of movies from the original media.
If you want to truly mitigate against disaster like fire or flood, offsite copies should be in the plan. Do you rotate drives to an offsite location in any way? 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on April 16, 2021, 10:54:55 AM
not build related! but had to post my new baby.  LOVE THIS CAR!
(https://i.ibb.co/ZTKmVdv/170072843-920507502057299-374301469685538067-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/882c0MG)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on April 16, 2021, 12:19:49 PM
not build related! but had to post my new baby.  LOVE THIS CAR!
(https://i.ibb.co/ZTKmVdv/170072843-920507502057299-374301469685538067-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/882c0MG)
A friend of mine has one as well. Amazing vehicle. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on April 16, 2021, 01:11:41 PM
A friend of mine has one as well. Amazing vehicle.
thanks...yeah it puts a smile on my face everytime i get in it....even going TO work lol.  winner winner

and this all because i needed a car with a trailer hitch for a bike rack hahaha
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 21, 2021, 02:16:39 PM
so they always say the last 5% is the hardest to finish.  they werent kidding.  I still havnt made the atmos speaker grills, and painted the door trim.  eh, ive been enjoying it too much and its not noticeable!

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 21, 2021, 02:18:18 PM
i did get lowering springs for my Macan though.  this thing should come from the factory like this! before shots look like the moon rover lol

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on July 25, 2021, 09:40:34 AM
Still haven’t made my atmos speaker grills lol. Nor painted my door frame. Not that it effects the movie watching experience. Love this theater so much. Just doesn’t get a ton of use in the summer. 

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 06, 2022, 03:49:37 PM
So crazy update around here

Another leak in the basement :( turnout the barb on the hot water line going to the upstairs kistchen sink went bad and it was swinging water in the basement overnight. EXACTLY where my OLD theater was!  Thank god I didn’t rebuild in the same spot!  So just a PIA more than anything. Had to dry vac a lot of water. And cutout a piece of drywall. Fix the line and all is good again. PIA but major damage averted!

Also wise and daughter have Covid. Which leads me  to take care of my at risk son while they both quarantine. Fun start to the new year!

Just wanted to post to document it for future years to remember hahah

Hope all is wel
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on January 06, 2022, 04:04:19 PM
Ugh. Well, I guess it could have been worse, right?
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Ginky Weeds on January 09, 2022, 06:49:34 PM
Hope all are well soon!!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 09, 2022, 07:08:37 PM
Thank you. 

Now my son and I have it. Ran 5.5 miles yesterday. Today I feel TERRIBLE. Fully vaxed and boostered. Can’t imagine what it would be like if i wasn’t. . 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Ginky Weeds on January 09, 2022, 07:17:46 PM
It's disappointing that many people that are fully vaccinated are getting it.  But I guess the good news is it seems to have milder symptoms at least.

Hope you are all feeling better soon, especially your at-risk son!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on January 09, 2022, 08:25:22 PM
Thank you.

Now my son and I have it. Ran 5.5 miles yesterday. Today I feel TERRIBLE. Fully vaxed and boostered. Can’t imagine what it would be like if i wasn’t. .
A co-worker of mine was double vaxed and boostered...spent 6 days in bed with 102-104 degree fever. Me? I'm single vaxed (J&J) and caught Covid sometime between July and December (took antibody test on 12/6/21). Never even got a sniffle. If you haven't caught it recently, you will catch Omicron...for most people (vaxed and unvaxed), it's mostly a cold for the majority of people. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 09, 2022, 09:32:13 PM
A co-worker of mine was double vaxed and boostered...spent 6 days in bed with 102-104 degree fever. Me? I'm single vaxed (J&J) and caught Covid sometime between July and December (took antibody test on 12/6/21). Never even got a sniffle. If you haven't caught it recently, you will catch Omicron...for most people (vaxed and unvaxed), it's mostly a cold for the majority of people.
Yeah so far so good I guess. Just fee run down. Sore throat. Swears etc. 

much worse than yesterday. Where whenni ran 5.5 miles I barely was breathing hard lol 
hopfully it passes through the house quickly :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on May 22, 2022, 05:31:41 PM
My little buddy is getting big quickly

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on May 22, 2022, 07:42:39 PM
My little buddy is getting big quickly
Must be that raw steak you're feeding him!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on May 22, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Must be that raw steak you're feeding him!
Hahah. That’s actually just a cow bone. With a tiny bit of meat on it. But in the pic. Does look like a steak haha 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on May 23, 2022, 01:56:34 AM
Hahah. That’s actually just a cow bone. With a tiny bit of meat on it. But in the pic. Does look like a steak haha
I looked like a juicy rib-eye!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: Paul Heroy on May 23, 2022, 09:43:03 AM
I looked like a juicy rib-eye!
Haha that's what I thought, and I was very impressed that someone was able to get the puppy to pose with that juicy morsel at paw's reach!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on May 23, 2022, 11:59:57 AM
Haha that's what I thought, and I was very impressed that someone was able to get the puppy to pose with that juicy morsel at paw's reach!
hes a good boy.  really reacts to his name when called
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 12, 2022, 12:27:27 PM
amazingly this theater is over 2 years old now! man time flies.

even more crazy is i havent upgraded speakers or subs for over 7 years!  I used to upgrade at least 2 times a year lol or add.  crazy how content (in a good way) I am!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 12, 2022, 12:28:31 PM
Also my buddy Duke has gotten HUGE he’s almost a year (in January) little before and after in the same sitting position

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on December 12, 2022, 01:52:49 PM
Also my buddy Duke has gotten HUGE he’s almost a year (in January) little before and after in the same sitting position
Duke looks awesome!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on December 12, 2022, 07:39:21 PM
Duke looks awesome!
Thanks. He’s really is. 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on January 31, 2023, 06:33:04 PM
Picked up my new ride couple weeks ago. I’m obsessed 

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 11, 2024, 08:33:56 AM
Picked up my new ride couple weeks ago. I’m obsessed
Had this badboy a year and a half now.  By FAR my favorite car Ive ever owned.  so much fun to drive.  

last summer took it to an INDY shop for an oil change (I was being lazy) $400!!!! and that was with a family member OWNING the shop smfh.  if i went to the stealership it would have been $750

so needless to say this time around I DIY'd it (this past Saturday) took all of 35 minutes and $120 for oil/filter.  lesson learned dont be lazy
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on June 12, 2024, 12:13:50 PM
Nice! Getting ready to drive our new ( as of January ) vehicle on a short road trip! 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 12, 2024, 04:47:01 PM
Nice! Getting ready to drive our new ( as of January ) vehicle on a short road trip!
That’s awesome!  Enjoy 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 28, 2024, 04:32:15 PM
Bad news good news.

Bad news my server computer caught on fire while away on vacation (forgot to shut it down)

Good news house didn’t burn down lol

Bad news can’t figure what’s wrong w that computer. Was working fine Sunday as I was assessing if I lost any drives (lost one 10TB) and now won’t boot up at all just shuts down after about 30 seconds. Then tries to restart itself. Ugh. Hoping it’s the PS

Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: SRW1000 on June 28, 2024, 08:01:48 PM
Yikes, that's scary.  I've never given any thought to shutting down my servers when going on vacation.

I did have a problem with a subwoofer once right after coming home from a vacation.  After plugging it back in and turning it on a small bit of smoke came out of the bottom port, so it never actually burst into flames.  That was it for the amp.

Hope you get it figured out, and I'll have to give thought to shutting mine down when leaving them unattended for a long period.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: AVSCraig on June 29, 2024, 12:19:26 AM
I turn my NAS off - the only server I have, after I'm finished watching a movie. I turn everything off - UPS power conditioners too.
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on June 29, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
It’s very frustrating right now trying I get it up and running. Power supply replacement comes today. Praying that’s the reason

The one I have is brand new. Happen to have a spare on hand. I ordered a new one. If it is in fact the power supply I will warranty it. (Not the one from
The fire that one is destroyed…wires are crispy lol)

Most frustrating part is it was working. (Post fire) and the just stopped booting up. So weird
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on June 29, 2024, 11:28:24 AM
Sorry to hear about the fire. I shut my computer and server off when I leave town for more than 48 hours. In fact, when I leave for more than a week, I even unplug things from the wall (projector and Trinnov for sure). California power is too sporadic with black and brown outs (brown outs are the worst on electronics). 
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on July 01, 2024, 07:46:27 AM
Sorry to hear about the fire. I shut my computer and server off when I leave town for more than 48 hours. In fact, when I leave for more than a week, I even unplug things from the wall (projector and Trinnov for sure). California power is too sporadic with black and brown outs (brown outs are the worst on electronics).
Thanks. Yeah 99% it was from a major power surge from a terrible electrical storm we had. 
oh well time to learn how to build a pc. Kit and case is on its way :)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: David Vaughn on July 01, 2024, 11:56:03 AM
Thanks. Yeah 99% it was from a major power surge from a terrible electrical storm we had.
oh well time to learn how to build a pc. Kit and case is on its way :)
Building a PC isn't hard these days. I've been building my own since 1991!
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on July 12, 2024, 08:30:21 AM
Building a PC isn't hard these days. I've been building my own since 1991!
Yep was super simple!  Other than realizing I didn’t buy a cpu with onboard graphics (to set up bios) and had to borrow a hdmi video card lol

then a small snafu to get my NAS connected to the LAN properly. Was simple mistake of missing an important gateway address lol. But all good like it never happened (just have to replace the one HDD that didn’t make it. RIP)
Title: Re: SadieMax theater 2.0
Post by: bmoney on August 29, 2024, 01:07:41 PM
4 years ago this week...since the 2.0 started (happened).  time flies.  

still loving the 2.0 and still haven't made covers for the atmos Volt speakers lol.
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