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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #285 on: June 20, 2019, 10:24:15 PM »
RS4500 ! Tag, you're it ! ::)
Out of my price range...I still have one kid in college I'm paying for :)
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #286 on: June 21, 2019, 09:56:21 AM »
Out of my price range...I still have one kid in college I'm paying for :)
I know the feeling. :) 
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #287 on: June 21, 2019, 10:02:31 AM »
The Friday flash sale today should be a really good one. :) 
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Wall treatment
« Reply #288 on: June 26, 2019, 12:06:49 PM »
Maybe I should talk about this in another thread?

I have my RS1000 up and running now for about a week, I love it!

I would like to cover some of my walls with black velvet curtains.  Are curtains an OK choice?

I would like to start at each side of the screen, bend at the corner and continue down the wall. My left wall is only 33", and I'd like to come back about 78" on my right wall. The velvet I'm using on my speakers is from JoAnn's "Royalty 3 Velvet". It really does the job! So I'm hoping to get curtains that are equally good with absorbing light.

Any ideas where to get some curtains?

Thanks,
-Tom
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #289 on: June 26, 2019, 01:34:37 PM »
I've got black velvet curtains behind my screen ( and red velvet ones to the side ).

You might Google to see what's available currently. 

Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #290 on: June 26, 2019, 02:11:04 PM »
I've got black velvet curtains behind my screen ( and red velvet ones to the side ).

You might Google to see what's available currently.
Looks good Craig!
My sides are 90 degrees from the screen, and only 14" from the screen. I'm hoping the curtains will be better than the dark brown painted walls. The best would probably be velvet right on the wall, but hoping the curtains will be a big improvement.
-Tom
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #291 on: June 26, 2019, 04:20:28 PM »
I have some really nice thick/heavy black velvet curtains, but the company is no longer in business. Mine are like the heavy velvet curtains you used to find in theaters back when they were made with fancy curtains hanging everywhere. 
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Re: JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread
« Reply #292 on: June 26, 2019, 06:14:42 PM »
I have some really nice thick/heavy black velvet curtains, but the company is no longer in business. Mine are like the heavy velvet curtains you used to find in theaters back when they were made with fancy curtains hanging everywhere.
I bet there's a lot of curtains like that laying around not being used, might be a sellers market for someone.
I ordered some from Amazon, but don't have high hopes.
-Tom
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Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #293 on: June 27, 2019, 08:16:37 AM »
Maybe I should talk about this in another thread?

I have my RS1000 up and running now for about a week, I love it!

I would like to cover some of my walls with black velvet curtains.  Are curtains an OK choice?

I would like to start at each side of the screen, bend at the corner and continue down the wall. My left wall is only 33", and I'd like to come back about 78" on my right wall. The velvet I'm using on my speakers is from JoAnn's "Royalty 3 Velvet". It really does the job! So I'm hoping to get curtains that are equally good with absorbing light.

Any ideas where to get some curtains?

Thanks,


I used black out curtains on each side of my screen for about 7 years. They made the image look like it was floating in darkness.

I finally painted the room with low LRV (Light Reflectance Value) black paint.

I took multiple measurements over several months. I used a light meter mounted on a tripod and used the legs to position meter for repeatability.

The meter readings are in Lux.

The readings with the black out curtains up:
Left wall 3.0    left of screen 1.2    ceiling 5.4    right of screen 1.1  right wall 3.8

The readings in the untreated room:
Left wall 3.3    left of screen 2.6    ceiling 5.6    right of screen 3.2  right wall 4.1

The readings in the painted room:
Left wall 0.1    left of screen 0.9    ceiling 0.3    right of screen 1.1  right wall 0.1

The results turned out well. The rear wall is mostly visual. The sides and ceiling is where you will get light reflected onto the screen. The ceiling provides most of the reflected light. My ceiling is 10' 6" and I had a 92" 16x9 screen with about 40" from the top of the screen to the ceiling. I have a 120" 16x9 now.

I currently have a HW45ES, I'd like to hear your thoughts about the differences between your old projector and your new one. I'm mostly interested in black levels and 1080p video.


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Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #294 on: June 28, 2019, 04:50:25 PM »
Maybe I should talk about this in another thread?

I have my RS1000 up and running now for about a week, I love it!

I would like to cover some of my walls with black velvet curtains.  Are curtains an OK choice?

I would like to start at each side of the screen, bend at the corner and continue down the wall. My left wall is only 33", and I'd like to come back about 78" on my right wall. The velvet I'm using on my speakers is from JoAnn's "Royalty 3 Velvet". It really does the job! So I'm hoping to get curtains that are equally good with absorbing light.

Any ideas where to get some curtains?

Thanks,


I used black out curtains on each side of my screen for about 7 years. They made the image look like it was floating in darkness.

I finally painted the room with low LRV (Light Reflectance Value) black paint.

I took multiple measurements over several months. I used a light meter mounted on a tripod and used the legs to position meter for repeatability.

The meter readings are in Lux.

The readings with the black out curtains up:
Left wall 3.0    left of screen 1.2    ceiling 5.4    right of screen 1.1  right wall 3.8

The readings in the untreated room:
Left wall 3.3    left of screen 2.6    ceiling 5.6    right of screen 3.2  right wall 4.1

The readings in the painted room:
Left wall 0.1    left of screen 0.9    ceiling 0.3    right of screen 1.1  right wall 0.1

The results turned out well. The rear wall is mostly visual. The sides and ceiling is where you will get light reflected onto the screen. The ceiling provides most of the reflected light. My ceiling is 10' 6" and I had a 92" 16x9 screen with about 40" from the top of the screen to the ceiling. I have a 120" 16x9 now.

I currently have a HW45ES, I'd like to hear your thoughts about the differences between your old projector and your new one. I'm mostly interested in black levels and 1080p video.
Wow, if I'm reading your numbers right, it looks like the paint really did the trick? Do you remember what paint you used? I have flat black ceiling panels but would like to paint them if that paint is that good.
I thought my HW40ES was pretty good with my calibrated eeColor LUT box. I thought the black level and contrast was decent, but knew there was much room for improvement. Well, the RS1000 is in another league, and it should be (not even talking about 4K and HDR). I'm sure I'll get used to the big upgrade, but right now I think it's stunning! I can't wait to have Chad B. calibrate my system.

I'm hanging some black velvet curtains in the next few days to try and tweak some wall reflections.

On another note, Unfortunately, I found 4K/HDR handshake issues, probably another story for another thread, but I'll briefly explain if anyone cares to read on.

I have a Denon X4200W (2015 model year). My Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500 going through my x4200 syncs OK, but my Roku Ultra, and ATV 4K looses signal with 4K/HDR content. I have 175MBPS Ethernet speed so that is OK. I have three brands of certified 4K HDMI 3' cables to go from devices to X4200. I have a 30' Ruipo fiber optic from x4200 to RS1000. If I bypass the x4200 and just use the Ruipo 30' everything works great. I scrubbed the internet and forums, and have changed every imaginal x4200 settings with no luck. I think the HDMI board in the x4200 is weak. I ordered a new, now discontinued X4400H (half price) to see if it cures my problem, I will know tomorrow. If it does I will send the X4200 in for repair, three months left on the warranty. Then, make sure it works properly and sell it. I will keep the X4400H, I want to take advantage of the Audyssey app.

-Tom
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Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #295 on: June 28, 2019, 05:26:35 PM »
Wow, if I'm reading your numbers right, it looks like the paint really did the trick? Do you remember what paint you used? I have flat black ceiling panels but would like to paint them if that paint is that good.
I thought my HW40ES was pretty good with my calibrated eeColor LUT box. I thought the black level and contrast was decent, but knew there was much room for improvement. Well, the RS1000 is in another league, and it should be (not even talking about 4K and HDR). I'm sure I'll get used to the big upgrade, but right now I think it's stunning! I can't wait to have Chad B. calibrate my system.

I'm hanging some black velvet curtains in the next few days to try and tweak some wall reflections.

On another note, Unfortunately, I found 4K/HDR handshake issues, probably another story for another thread, but I'll briefly explain if anyone cares to read on.

I have a Denon X4200W (2015 model year). My Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500 going through my x4200 syncs OK, but my Roku Ultra, and ATV 4K looses signal with 4K/HDR content. I have 175MBPS Ethernet speed so that is OK. I have three brands of certified 4K HDMI 3' cables to go from devices to X4200. I have a 30' Ruipo fiber optic from x4200 to RS1000. If I bypass the x4200 and just use the Ruipo 30' everything works great. I scrubbed the internet and forums, and have changed every imaginal x4200 settings with no luck. I think the HDMI board in the x4200 is weak. I ordered a new, now discontinued X4400H (half price) to see if it cures my problem, I will know tomorrow. If it does I will send the X4200 in for repair, three months left on the warranty. Then, make sure it works properly and sell it. I will keep the X4400H, I want to take advantage of the Audyssey app.
As we discussed on the phone, I have the same issue with an Onkyo RZ1100. I ended up trying an Atlona HD Base T. It works, but not a perfect solution. 
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Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #296 on: June 28, 2019, 05:52:59 PM »
Wow, if I'm reading your numbers right, it looks like the paint really did the trick? Do you remember what paint you used? I have flat black ceiling panels but would like to paint them if that paint is that good.
I thought my HW40ES was pretty good with my calibrated eeColor LUT box. I thought the black level and contrast was decent, but knew there was much room for improvement. Well, the RS1000 is in another league, and it should be (not even talking about 4K and HDR). I'm sure I'll get used to the big upgrade, but right now I think it's stunning! I can't wait to have Chad B. calibrate my system.

I'm hanging some black velvet curtains in the next few days to try and tweak some wall reflections.

On another note, Unfortunately, I found 4K/HDR handshake issues, probably another story for another thread, but I'll briefly explain if anyone cares to read on.

I have a Denon X4200W (2015 model year). My Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500 going through my x4200 syncs OK, but my Roku Ultra, and ATV 4K looses signal with 4K/HDR content. I have 175MBPS Ethernet speed so that is OK. I have three brands of certified 4K HDMI 3' cables to go from devices to X4200. I have a 30' Ruipo fiber optic from x4200 to RS1000. If I bypass the x4200 and just use the Ruipo 30' everything works great. I scrubbed the internet and forums, and have changed every imaginal x4200 settings with no luck. I think the HDMI board in the x4200 is weak. I ordered a new, now discontinued X4400H (half price) to see if it cures my problem, I will know tomorrow. If it does I will send the X4200 in for repair, three months left on the warranty. Then, make sure it works properly and sell it. I will keep the X4400H, I want to take advantage of the Audyssey app.
Try replacing one of the 3' HDMI cables with a 6 footer...sometimes the shorter lengths screw up the clock cycle on the HDMI signal. It's along shot, but you never know. 
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Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #297 on: June 28, 2019, 06:30:05 PM »
Try replacing one of the 3' HDMI cables with a 6 footer...sometimes the shorter lengths screw up the clock cycle on the HDMI signal. It's along shot, but you never know.
I had problems myself with 3 footers. I have all 6 foot HDMI interconnect cables now. 

Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #298 on: June 28, 2019, 06:43:58 PM »
Wow, if I'm reading your numbers right, it looks like the paint really did the trick? Do you remember what paint you used? I have flat black ceiling panels but would like to paint them if that paint is that good.
...

I'm hanging some black velvet curtains in the next few days to try and tweak some wall reflections.

...
I have a Sherwin-Williams near me with Benjamin Moore across the street. The Sherwin-Williams store had LRV for all of their paints. The Benjamin Moore store didn't know what is was talking about.

I used SW 6258 Tricorn Black which has an LRV of 2 or 3 depending on the card. That's about as low as it can get.

It's black pit now. The ceiling fan light that was there before only lights up the center of the room and you can't see anything at the walls and corners.

There is a Rosco paint that's popular but generally has to be ordered online and shipped.

I'd use the velvet were you can and paint what you must.

Some of the final readings were at the lower limit of the meter.


Re: Wall treatment
« Reply #299 on: June 28, 2019, 08:48:58 PM »
As we discussed on the phone, I have the same issue with an Onkyo RZ1100. I ended up trying an Atlona HD Base T. It works, but not a perfect solution.
Hi Mike, thanks for the name of the device, I may have to go that route if nothing else works.
-Tom
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