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JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread

Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #255 on: January 16, 2019, 01:59:19 PM »
I see streaking is the topic of the day. All of the LCoS projections we're discussing have this issue to some extent. Here is the $28,000 Sony VPL-VW1100ES that I had here.  Normally this artifact cannot be seen with normal video content,  even on the JVC. Im also of the opinion that the raised level of black on the Sony 4K models and even the RS4500 make it so it doesn't stick out as much as it does with the other JVCs which have a darker level of black.

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And here is an overexposed photo comparing the Epson LS10000 vs JVC DLA-X500 during a shootout I did between the two a few years ago. Overexposed to show off the streaking easily

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #256 on: January 16, 2019, 02:03:48 PM »
Yep. Show the exaggerated photos and people think that is what the projector looks like from viewing distance.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #257 on: January 16, 2019, 02:05:47 PM »
Thanks ... this is reassuring to know. You start to wonder with the microscopic look at flaws ...

I see streaking is the topic of the day. All of the LCoS projections we're discussing have this issue to some extent. Here is the $28,000 Sony VPL-VW1100ES that i had here.  Normally this artifact cannot be seen with reusable video content,  even on the JVC. Im also of the opinion that the raised level of black on the Sony 4K models and even the RS4500 make it so it doesn't stick out as much as it does qoth the other JVCs which have a darker level of black.

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And here is an overexposed photo compared the Epson LS10000 vs JVC DLA-X500 during a shootout I did between the two l did a few years ago. Overexposed to show off the streaking easily ..


Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #258 on: January 16, 2019, 02:12:29 PM »
People need to take a deep breath.  They are reading WAY too much into the photos posted. The fact remains that these types of issues were present on the eshift models as well. This all seems to be par for the course when dealing with projectors with high contrast.  Its extremely hard to soak up evey bit of light scatter in the light engine. Its going to take some fairly high contrast content to actually make these artifacts out from a normal seated distance. It's normally only visible when you have white on an all black background,  like the shots I posted above. Things like end credits are a good example.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #259 on: January 16, 2019, 03:44:58 PM »
People need to take a deep breath.  They are reading WAY too much into the photos posted. The fact remains that these types of issues were present on the eshift models as well. This all seems to be par for the course when dealing with projectors with high contrast.  Its extremely hard to soak up evey bit of light scatter in the light engine. Its going to take some fairly high contrast content to actually make these artifacts out from a normal seated distance. It's normally only visible when you have white on an all black background,  like the shots I posted above. Things like end credits are a good example.

And most of those photos are over-exposed to show the effect .
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #260 on: January 16, 2019, 05:03:40 PM »
And most of those photos are over-exposed to show the effect .

From memory, I recall taking the photos of the Sony 1100ES trying to show what I saw in person up against the screen. For that to work I had to overexpose the shot a bit, but the other photo of the Epson/JVC it is highly overexposed, which is why the Oppo logo looks so out out focus.

Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #261 on: January 21, 2019, 01:07:35 PM »
I haven't been following too closely for the past 4 or 5 days. Are we any closer to knowing when US pre-orders might start being fulfilled? I'm sure you guys have been bombarded with this same question for weeks now, so apologies in advanced.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #262 on: January 21, 2019, 01:18:35 PM »
Probably looking at first week of February.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #263 on: January 21, 2019, 01:30:00 PM »
I haven't been following too closely for the past 4 or 5 days. Are we any closer to knowing when US pre-orders might start being fulfilled? I'm sure you guys have been bombarded with this same question for weeks now, so apologies in advanced.

Technically speaking, you are now 4 - 5 days closer !  ;)
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #264 on: January 30, 2019, 12:26:50 PM »
Last day for RS1000 preorders.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #265 on: January 31, 2019, 06:45:57 AM »
That seems to be a good sign! :)

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #266 on: February 01, 2019, 12:33:27 PM »
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #267 on: February 04, 2019, 10:25:58 AM »
I'm hearing my RS2000 should be here some time this week. (fingers crossed)

I'm also about to have a Sony VPL-VW695ES here for a few weeks. These two models seem to offer the sweet spot in performance from both companies and are priced the closest. Instead of doing two separate reviews for them, I was thinking it might be more appropriate to do a comparison review where I talk about objective and subjective differences between the two. I think this would help anyone on the fence trying to decide between the two.

If there's anything people want me to look at specifically with either of these models feel free to ask and I'll do my best to provide that information.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #268 on: February 04, 2019, 10:59:33 AM »
Hi Dylan,

I'm hearing the same for my rs2000 :)

I'll be concentrating on everything JVC Autocal and calibration related in the Autocal thread. I'll post there when I know exactly when to expect my unit (i.e. when I get a tracking number).

I won't be doing a review (yours will be far better!) but I'll post some suggestions re best settings and calibration tips, with and without the autocal. I might post some contrast measurements if they are useful to provide a single data point (for example on/off contrast and ANSI contrast using my Minolta T10) but I'll focus on gamut measurements with saturations and color volume cover with different profiles, greyscale measurements etc using Calman Ultimate with my Discus trained to my i1pro2. Feel free to contribute (or ask) anything calibration related there so we can keep the information organised. :)

Regarding your review, I'm really looking forward to your observations re picture quality, especially re any suggested settings or settings to avoid in your opinion, as I trust your eyes. It will be very interesting to see how the JVC compares to the Sony, so great you can have both at the same time.

Apart from that, the usual: do you spot any artifacts with the DI, especially with the iris fully open? It's supposed to close less but to be less aggressive to reduce artifacts, which is welcome. How do you find the black levels/contrast on your unit compared to your last/current JVC (please remind us what it is). Mine is an rs500.

Looking forward to playing with this new toy and reading your observations! :)

EDIT: Do you plan to start an owner's thread? It would be great if you did.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #269 on: February 04, 2019, 01:31:05 PM »
I guess it's a race. Who ever takes possession of their RS2000 first can start the owners thread here.

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