Saving old Blu Ray discs

[Biz4be]

I have an extensive collection of discs, BD and DVD, I would like to retain as I am witnessing digital degradation in several of them. Other than the Kaleidoscape Sysytem,  has anyone come upon a better way to save these?
I assume it would involve a digitizing program and a hardware or cloud storage medium.

[David Vaughn]

I have an extensive collection of discs, BD and DVD, I would like to retain as I am witnessing digital degradation in several of them. Other than the Kaleidoscape Sysytem,  has anyone come upon a better way to save these?
I assume it would involve a digitizing program and a hardware or cloud storage medium.

MakeMKV and lots of hard drive space (and a lot of time to rip each disc). I've done this to my entire collection. 

[Biz4be]

Thanks! I appreciate the insight.

[bmoney]

Ripping them is the way

[AVSCraig]

I have an extensive collection of discs, BD and DVD, I would like to retain as I am witnessing digital degradation in several of them. Other than the Kaleidoscape Sysytem,  has anyone come upon a better way to save these?
I assume it would involve a digitizing program and a hardware or cloud storage medium.

Get an R_volution NAS and put 8 Seagate IronWolf 10TB NAS internal hard drive's in it. I have over 900 movies ripped and some series too.

[bmoney]

Get an R_volution NAS and put 8 Seagate IronWolf 10TB NAS internal hard drive's in it. I have over 900 movies ripped and some series too.

Buy you have done the complete 180

[AVSCraig]

Buy you have done the complete 180

Alan Gouger recommended it several years ago. Great addition to our theater. 

[bmoney]

Alan Gouger recommended it several years ago. Great addition to our theater.

pretty sure I recommended it a long time ago to you.  but you were dead set against it.  didn't have time to be bothered ripping discs lol.  its ok we all make mistakes haha

[Paul Heroy]

I'm trying to get set up to start ripping soon. I have a Synology NAS, older model (2016 vintage) which gave me a scare recently so I'm moving to 5 bay 2025 model. Synology initially pulled a "new Coke" blunder with trying to force only their own branded drives to be used but the community rebelled and they relented in Sep or Oct. Otherwise I would have looked into a different brand. So I'll use the old one as a backup target after migrating drives to the new one.

[AVSCraig]

pretty sure I recommended it a long time ago to you.  but you were dead set against it.  didn't have time to be bothered ripping discs lol.  its ok we all make mistakes haha

I've had the Zappiti almost 6 years now - Zappiti 4K HDR Media System - page 1 - Media players - AVS Discussions

[David Vaughn]

I'm trying to get set up to start ripping soon. I have a Synology NAS, older model (2016 vintage) which gave me a scare recently so I'm moving to 5 bay 2025 model. Synology initially pulled a "new Coke" blunder with trying to force only their own branded drives to be used but the community rebelled and they relented in Sep or Oct. Otherwise I would have looked into a different brand. So I'll use the old one as a backup target after migrating drives to the new one.

Paul, get the 8 bay version. You'll thank me later. I have the 4 disc version and have almost run out of space.  

[AVSCraig]

Get the 8 bay version and install all 8 hard drives in the beginning! 

[Paul Heroy]

Before I dive in to responding to Dave & Craig's "too much is never enough" reply - question for the NASers. Do you also run a backup device for your primary NAS? I've been meaning to set that up b/c as nice as RAID 5 (or SHR) are at allowing for 1 single drive to go bad and be replaced with no issue, if your NAS has a catastrophic failure you could be SOL in a big way. So an actual backup could be a life saver in that case. My old NAS went dark a few weeks ago and fortunately it ended up being a $30 PSU fix but I wasn't sure that would be the case at first.

So... I have an old 4 bay Synology DS916+ and just picked up the DS1525+, which is on sale. I've already received it but I suppose I could do a return. However, I also ordered 3x 18TB drives on sale. (Surveyed NAS drive prices and sorted by price using PCPartPicker and the WD Red Pro 18TB at $290 on Newegg is the cheapest $/GB among all NAS drives right now.) Per Synology's RAID calculator, using either SHR or Raid 5, that'll be 32TB and with adding a 4th and 5th, eventually 49 & 65 TB.

I don't have the enormous collection some here do. My Excel file shows this media type summary:



At an average of 60GB / 30GB, ripping every single 4K / BD shouldn't take much more than about 1/2 of that initial capacity. My pace of buying has slowed, too, so... I think I'm plenty good with 5 bays considering all that.

Now, if I follow the path of a couple of friends and start firing up torrents to download, it could get out of control lol.

[Paul Heroy]

BTW, the DS1825+ is on the same BF 20% off sale at both Newegg and BH Photo. I bought from BHP b/c with their store card they refund your sales tax, which is just over 7% for me. For some reason Amazon doesn't seem to have them on sale, but the BHP is a better deal than even the 6% back I'd get with Amazon on their card.

[bmoney]

Before I dive in to responding to Dave & Craig's "too much is never enough" reply - question for the NASers. Do you also run a backup device for your primary NAS? I've been meaning to set that up b/c as nice as RAID 5 (or SHR) are at allowing for 1 single drive to go bad and be replaced with no issue, if your NAS has a catastrophic failure you could be SOL in a big way. So an actual backup could be a life saver in that case. My old NAS went dark a few weeks ago and fortunately it ended up being a $30 PSU fix but I wasn't sure that would be the case at first.

So... I have an old 4 bay Synology DS916+ and just picked up the DS1525+, which is on sale. I've already received it but I suppose I could do a return. However, I also ordered 3x 18TB drives on sale. (Surveyed NAS drive prices and sorted by price using PCPartPicker and the WD Red Pro 18TB at $290 on Newegg is the cheapest $/GB among all NAS drives right now.) Per Synology's RAID calculator, using either SHR or Raid 5, that'll be 32TB and with adding a 4th and 5th, eventually 49 & 65 TB.

I don't have the enormous collection some here do. My Excel file shows this media type summary:



At an average of 60GB / 30GB, ripping every single 4K / BD shouldn't take much more than about 1/2 of that initial capacity. My pace of buying has slowed, too, so... I think I'm plenty good with 5 bays considering all that.

Now, if I follow the path of a couple of friends and start firing up torrents to download, it could get out of control lol.

Unraid allows for 2 parity drives which would allow for two disc failures. Not sure what would cause a catastrophic failure. I just think that would end up in loss of your files 
I have 1000 4k discs now on my server. So that would suck if that ever happened. I did lose a drive. And it was cake to replace it