JVC DLA-RS1000/N5 & RS2000/NX7 Owners Thread

[Richard]

Hey fellas,

I'm currently trying to help a family member decide between the RS1000 and RS2000.  Could someone help refresh my memory of about how much calibrated light output these achieve (especially with the P3 filter on the RS2000)?

RS1000 calibrated lumens =
RS2000 calibrated lumens w/ P3 filter =
RS2000 calibrated lumens w/o P3 filter =

My idea is to basically recommend the RS2000 if there's enough to get him 30ftL+ on his screen w/ P3 filter, else I'll recommend the RS1000.

His screen is a 16x9 123" diag ST130 (1.3 gain) = 45sqft (fully light controlled w/ dark walls), so I'm calculating he would need around 1100 calibrated lumens for good HDR.

Also, since he's fully light controlled w/ dark walls, I'm assuming he would be able to discern/enjoy the contrast difference.

What do y'all think?  Is the RS2000 the way to go in this instance?  Any other features to consider?  TIA!!

EDIT:  He bought a B-stock RS2000 from AVS!  We'll start with Natural out-of-the-box with an Oppo 203 and Shield TV.  I do have a Spyder5, so I'm starting to read Manni's JVC AutoCal thread now.

[Dylan Seeger]

I got to see a demo of the new frame adaptive HDR tonemapping on the RS3000 at CEDIA today. It looks very impressive from the few clips JVC was showing off. We'll have to see how well it performs against some other tone mapping solutions out there, but I don't think the difference will be astronomical.

[AVSMike]

I got to see a demo of the new frame adaptive HDR tonemapping on the RS3000 at CEDIA today. It looks very impressive from the few clips JVC was showing off. We'll have to see how well it performs against some other tone mapping solutions out there, but I don't think the difference will be astronomical.

Take a look at Craig's pictures showing the difference. On the tough scenes, pretty big difference.
https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=2222.msg13911;topicseen#new

[AVSMike]

Here is a JVC video on the new HDR tone mapping.
https://www.ravepubs.com/rave-video/cedia-2019-jvc-announces-dila-firmware-update-with-frame-adapt-hdr-technology/

[Tom899]

Here is a JVC video on the new HDR tone mapping.
https://www.ravepubs.com/rave-video/cedia-2019-jvc-announces-dila-firmware-update-with-frame-adapt-hdr-technology/

Sounds nice! I'm having Chad B. out to calibrate my RS1000 on Oct. 1st. I think it would be nice to have this before calibration? If I can't get the firmware before Oct. 1st, I'm hoping when I do, it won't effect my calibration?

[AVSCraig]

Sounds nice! I'm having Chad B. out to calibrate my RS1000 on Oct. 1st. I think it would be nice to have this before calibration? If I can't get the firmware before Oct. 1st, I'm hoping when I do, it won't effect my calibration?

It shouldn't effect your calibration, if you switch from Chad's fixed HDR tone mapping curve to this auto tone mapping. Ask Chad to tell you which setting to change when the new firmware comes out, which won't be until November 1st most likely.  

[Tom899]

It shouldn't effect your calibration, if you switch from Chad's fixed HDR tone mapping curve to this auto tone mapping. Ask Chad to tell you which setting to change when the new firmware comes out, which won't be until November 1st most likely. 

Thanks Craig, I'll ask Chad

[MrTom]

This is my first post here (at least in a long time) so I hope I have it in the right place. 

I got my first projector about 3.5 yrs ago and invested in a JVC DLA RS500U and a Stewart 118" Studio Tek 100 for my theater room, which I bought from AV Science.  I am now seriously considering upgrading it to a JVC DLA RS2000/NX7.  I was hoping I could get a few questions answered before I decided for sure to place the order.  And by the way, I am not a real technical person on this stuff.  I can install it, align it, focus it, tweak some image settings to my liking, download a firmware update now and then (hopefully), and that's about it.  I just want the best image quality I can get for under $10K that I can enjoy without needing to be overly technical. 

I have been happy with the RS500, but some things marketed with the RS2000 really appeal to me, such as; 1) native 4K and no pixel shifting, 2) increased brightness, 3) low latency mode, 4) auto tone mapping, and 5) auto calibration.  Those things sound like better image quality and a more enjoyable overall experience.  That's why I am interested. 

We use our theater room about 75% for watching 4K movie content, either streamed on Roku or via an Oppo 205 disc player.  We use it about 25% for watching sports and cable TV material.

I understand some people have opined that the upscaling capability of the RS2000 is less than optimal, which I think means watching sports and with native 1080i/720p cable resolution would not be good and may even be a step backwards from my RS500U.  Can that be corrected or improved just by disabling the JVC upscaler and using the upscaler in my Yamaha Aventage RX A3050 AVR?  I would appreciate opinions on that. 

Secondly, the RS500U has a marketed 120,000:1 contrast ratio vs 80,000:1 for the RS2000.  Is that a noticeable step backwards in contrast, or is it overcome with the other improved features? 

Third, I have read of problems with streaking, blooming and non-functioning auto cal feature.  Have those issues been resolved with firmware updates? 

And lastly, will firmware updates only download with Microsoft PC's?  But not with Mac? 

Sorry for the amateur questions! 

Thanks for any help you can give me. 

[AVSMike]

This is my first post here (at least in a long time) so I hope I have it in the right place. 

I got my first projector about 3.5 yrs ago and invested in a JVC DLA RS500U and a Stewart 118" Studio Tek 100 for my theater room, which I bought from AV Science.  I am now seriously considering upgrading it to a JVC DLA RS2000/NX7.  I was hoping I could get a few questions answered before I decided for sure to place the order.  And by the way, I am not a real technical person on this stuff.  I can install it, align it, focus it, tweak some image settings to my liking, download a firmware update now and then (hopefully), and that's about it.  I just want the best image quality I can get for under $10K that I can enjoy without needing to be overly technical. 

I have been happy with the RS500, but some things marketed with the RS2000 really appeal to me, such as; 1) native 4K and no pixel shifting, 2) increased brightness, 3) low latency mode, 4) auto tone mapping, and 5) auto calibration.  Those things sound like better image quality and a more enjoyable overall experience.  That's why I am interested. 

We use our theater room about 75% for watching 4K movie content, either streamed on Roku or via an Oppo 205 disc player.  We use it about 25% for watching sports and cable TV material.

I understand some people have opined that the upscaling capability of the RS2000 is less than optimal, which I think means watching sports and with native 1080i/720p cable resolution would not be good and may even be a step backwards from my RS500U.  Can that be corrected or improved just by disabling the JVC upscaler and using the upscaler in my Yamaha Aventage RX A3050 AVR?  I would appreciate opinions on that. 

Secondly, the RS500U has a marketed 120,000:1 contrast ratio vs 80,000:1 for the RS2000.  Is that a noticeable step backwards in contrast, or is it overcome with the other improved features? 

Third, I have read of problems with streaking, blooming and non-functioning auto cal feature.  Have those issues been resolved with firmware updates? 

And lastly, will firmware updates only download with Microsoft PC's?  But not with Mac? 

Sorry for the amateur questions! 

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Scaling on the 2000 is pretty good. I would say the same as the 500.
The 500 has better contrast, but not double, so it is only a subtle difference.
Streaking and blooming is not worse on the newer models.
As long as the USB stick is formatted fat32, you can download onto the USB sick from a mac.

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[Harro]

I haven't gone through this whole thread but was wondering if anyone would have any input on how the 3d on these units perform.

Thanks,
Curt

[AVSMike]

I haven't gone through this whole thread but was wondering if anyone would have any input on how the 3d on these units perform.

Thanks,
Curt

3D on the 1000, 2000 and 3000 is good. Really did not give up anything from the old models.

[Dylan Seeger]

To make a long story short, I was forced to sell my RS2000 earlier this summer to help pay for an unexpected roof replacement. Luckily, after talking to JVC at CEDIA, they were able to hook me up with a new unit before the October price increase happens. I don't know if my unit is an outlier or if some production line changes/tweaks have occurred to these units, but my replacement unit is measuring in at 32,650:1 native on/off contrast with the iris fully open. Granted, this is close to minimum zoom on the lens due to where I have the projector placed, but this is a pretty big step up over the original unit I previously had. It's about 10% more contrast. For context, my original RS2000 was from the first batch to arrive in the US and this new unit was manufactured in June this year according to the serial number. So maybe a few tweaks have been made to the light engine or I just got luck of the draw? Either way, this is one step closer to the e-shift models in contrast performance.

[AVSMike]

Sounds like you got a great unit.

[AVSMike]

CEDIA special ends today for the 1000 and 2000.

[MrTom]

I received my RS2000 in great shape last Friday and swapped it out with my RS500U the same day.  I am so impressed!  I adjusted the lens shift and zoom and tweaked a few minor picture settings to suit, and it really does a sweet job.  Network/cable TV for NFL games leaves a little (or a lot) to be desired.  But I bought it for movies and streaming series.  I can still do football on my old, faithful Panasonic plasmas.  The 4K discs on the Oppo 205 as well as 4K on the streaming services make for big smiles.  Thanks AVSMike.  It was a very nice improvement to our theater room.