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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #165 on: November 02, 2022, 06:52:50 AM »
Sounds like they are close to releasing a firmware to make instant aspect ratio switching a thing (using NLS) this is awesome for changing aspect ratio movies! And scope screens 
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #166 on: November 02, 2022, 12:05:57 PM »
Sounds like they are close to releasing a firmware to make instant aspect ratio switching a thing (using NLS) this is awesome for changing aspect ratio movies! And scope screens
Not really. I'd never use NLS - that's an abomination. 2nd, why would you want a small 16:9 image on your scope screen every time it's supposed to be an IMAX scene? I just lock the aspect ratio at 2.35:1. Switching to a smaller image would be distracting. I'm not going to do anything different with this new firmware.
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #167 on: November 02, 2022, 02:41:05 PM »
Not really. I'd never use NLS - that's an abomination. 2nd, why would you want a small 16:9 image on your scope screen every time it's supposed to be an IMAX scene? I just lock the aspect ratio at 2.35:1. Switching to a smaller image would be distracting. I'm not going to do anything different with this new firmware.
I'm not a huge fan of NLS either, but do understand that it can be helpful in some situations, used judiciously. And some people aren't that sensitive to the distortion such that it bothers them less than others, and feel the added immersion compensates for it. No right or wrong here, just personal preference. I used it to watch Justice League, going from 1.33:1 to 2.00:1 and it looked pretty good. Watching 1.33:1 on a 2.35:1 screen just seemed ridiculous to me, but at 2.00:1 it was reasonable.

On dealing with variable aspect ratio movies, once again there is no right or wrong, and it's difficult (if not impossible, as in my particular room) to fully honor director intent. I would need a 1.9:1 screen, with the same width as my scope screen, masked all the time top and bottom except when watching the occasional variable ar movies, and this is simply not possible.

So I don't disagree with you that IMAX scenes were meant to be larger (same width as the 2.35:1 screen, but now taller), and using a processor to display it at 16:9 doesn't honor that intent. But at the same time, watching it at 2.35:1 is also inconsistent with director intent, since much of the additional content is cropped and not seen. Many movies may be "safe" to do this, and I understand this is often how it was shown in commercial theaters. But technically, it's still not what the director's intent was in having these IMAX scenes to begin with, as I understand it anyway.

I typically do watch these with aspect ratio switching, and don't find it visually distracting. In fact it's very easy to not even notice when the switch is occurring. But if someone chooses differently, to watch them at 2.35:1, that's also a perfectly legitimate choice.

Again, no right or wrong in any of these, and personal preference features prominently. This hobby is ultimately about our enjoying an experience in our homes, and what works for one may not work for everyone.

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #168 on: November 02, 2022, 04:46:56 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of NLS either, but do understand that it can be helpful in some situations, used judiciously. And some people aren't that sensitive to the distortion such that it bothers them less than others, and feel the added immersion compensates for it. No right or wrong here, just personal preference. I used it to watch Justice League, going from 1.33:1 to 2.00:1 and it looked pretty good. Watching 1.33:1 on a 2.35:1 screen just seemed ridiculous to me, but at 2.00:1 it was reasonable.

On dealing with variable aspect ratio movies, once again there is no right or wrong, and it's difficult (if not impossible, as in my particular room) to fully honor director intent. I would need a 1.9:1 screen, with the same width as my scope screen, masked all the time top and bottom except when watching the occasional variable ar movies, and this is simply not possible.

So I don't disagree with you that IMAX scenes were meant to be larger (same width as the 2.35:1 screen, but now taller), and using a processor to display it at 16:9 doesn't honor that intent. But at the same time, watching it at 2.35:1 is also inconsistent with director intent, since much of the additional content is cropped and not seen. Many movies may be "safe" to do this, and I understand this is often how it was shown in commercial theaters. But technically, it's still not what the director's intent was in having these IMAX scenes to begin with, as I understand it anyway.

I typically do watch these with aspect ratio switching, and don't find it visually distracting. In fact it's very easy to not even notice when the switch is occurring. But if someone chooses differently, to watch them at 2.35:1, that's also a perfectly legitimate choice.

Again, no right or wrong in any of these, and personal preference features prominently. This hobby is ultimately about our enjoying an experience in our homes, and what works for one may not work for everyone.
Technically, is a movie has IMAX scenes and was intended to be to watched on an IMAX screen, if you want to honor the " directors intent ", you should watch it on a 16:9 screen ( not many of us have 1.89:1 screens ) - 

" The digital cinema IMAX projection system, debuted in 2008, is designed for use with shorter 1.89:1 aspect ratio screens. The system uses two 2K projectors that can present either 2D or 3D content in DCI or IMAX Digital Format (IDF; which in itself is a superset of DCI) " .

I'm all for " directors intent " until they get stupid. Scope movies with 4 IMAX scenes are getting whacked down to 2.35:1 in my theater ( I'm looking at you Interstellar ). Movies like Dunkirk that are 50 / 50 get watched on my taller 16:9 screen. 

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #169 on: November 15, 2022, 12:05:44 PM »
new firmware is out.  in beta form.  great for instant aspect switch for menus
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #170 on: November 15, 2022, 12:38:02 PM »
new firmware is out.  in beta form.  great for instant aspect switch for menus
I need to install this later today. 


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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #171 on: March 02, 2023, 01:58:26 PM »
A nice Lumagen review!

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #172 on: March 03, 2023, 07:04:47 AM »
One of those things you think you don’t need. Until you have one 
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #173 on: March 03, 2023, 11:46:32 AM »
One of those things you think you don’t need. Until you have one
Now I can't be without one! 

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #174 on: March 03, 2023, 12:32:01 PM »
agreed.  will never let it go.

high price of admission.  but keeps getting cheaper with every firmware update....
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #175 on: March 03, 2023, 11:35:21 PM »
I was some what skeptical about purchasing the Lumagen Pro at first ( 4 years ago).
Today I consider it one of the best A/V purchases I’ve ever made.
It makes 4K HDR look amazing and the company support is second to none besides all the other things it does ( video calibration, auto aspect and up scaling) to name a few and it keeps getting better with free firmware updates.

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #176 on: March 14, 2023, 03:08:40 PM »
An interesting chat with Jim Peterson and Alan Gouger - 

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #177 on: April 26, 2023, 02:48:13 PM »
I'm looking forward to the upcoming firmware update like a kid waiting for Xmas! Even better dynamic tone mapping and a better picture. Hard to believe considering I have zero complaints now! 

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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #178 on: April 26, 2023, 09:24:24 PM »
I'm looking forward to the upcoming firmware update like a kid waiting for Xmas! Even better dynamic tone mapping and a better picture. Hard to believe considering I have zero complaints now!
Yeah def curious how it can get better 
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Re: Lumagen Radiance Pro
« Reply #179 on: May 25, 2023, 05:29:12 PM »
Sounds like a firmware update with improved DTM is coming soon
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