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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #390 on: January 10, 2018, 09:02:03 PM »
I also want to add that there is nothing wrong with preferring Sony over JVC. I think many people get the impression that JVC fanboys (and vice versa) won't accept the opinion from pro-Sony people that the image they're seeing is "better". Everyone has the right to prefer any brand or technology over any other. Who am I to say that you don't prefer the image from a Sony projector? The only issue I take with most of the pro-Sony members on the other forum is that most will not admit to or accept some of the inherent issues that all 4K SXRD projectors have. This is where most of the problems and arguments stem from on that forum. You just don't see the same kind of conscious refusal of issues on the JVC side and this is what bothers me. From the conversations I've had with Chris, he doesn't seem to be like most of the pro-Sony guys over at AVS when it comes to this. I actually had no idea he was a dealer before today. I assumed he was just an enthusiast like most of us here.
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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #391 on: January 10, 2018, 09:02:39 PM »
I can't help but comment, since you seem desperate to talk about me. Have you ever taken the time to read all of my post? Clearly not. I hate that you have been banned, and you are having some sort of pity party, but I didn't have anything to do with you being banned.

Actually if you look at my post, just recently I said how ridiculous it is that so many good people are being banned. And the AVS will regret it when everyone there is gone.

But please elaborate on how I push Sony?? Do I like Sony projectors, Yes! Do I personally own them and use them, Yes. Do i think they have issues, absolutely!

I also own or have owned multiple JVC projectors, RS1, RS2, RS4810, RS600, and RS4500. I praised the RS600 for almost a solid year, for how great it was even compared to my Sony 5000ES, especially considering the cost difference.

I guess you were fine with my post, as long as they favored JVC?

And I don't push any product on AVS. I don't ever write "PM me or Call me" In my 10+ years on AVS I have only sold a handful of items.

I am on AVS, because I have a passion for AV, not because I need the money. I have been financially secure since the day I was born. I have befriended a small group of AVS guys over the years, and I have worked with that small group whenever approached, but thats really not the issue at hand.

But so you don't look and sound uneducated on the facts, I suggest you go back and read thru my 1000+ post. I have no Sony agenda. I have had many Sony projectors, many JVC projectors, many DPI and Sim2 projectors, and Barco projectors. I have no loyalty to any one brand. And I try to buy units that best fit my install.

But by all means feel free to continue to talk about how "I push Sony for all its worth". If you would even read back just a little ways you would see where I spent a month bashing Sony over a bad firmware they sent out for 5000ES projectors, which bricked many units. And how horrible and slow their response was to that issue. Oh, and that I have said numerous times that the dynamic laser dimming on the 885, is just flat out broken and doesn't work. Yep, thats a way to push products!

I have come to understand that Mike is emailing all his clients saying how he is being targeted at AVS for selling products, but again that has nothing to do with me.

But by all means, continue.....

I have only told a small percentage of people.
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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #392 on: January 10, 2018, 09:13:16 PM »
Dylan and Tom,

I truly appreciate both of your comments.

Im not in the RS600 thread much anymore, but I still have my RS600.

Once I loaded the custom gamma curves it fixed the main issue I had with the unit which was the default HDR performance. Now it looks great with HDR.

Its hanging in my master bedroom and I use it every single night.

Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #393 on: January 10, 2018, 09:14:37 PM »
So this is where the gang is all hanging out? I actually miss our dust-ups. Seegs, Andreas, Kris, etc... And I don’t mind everyone talking about me. I am excited I was included in some of the discussions here. I do find it interesting that the majority here are jvc owners. That is an odd trend. Anyway, I won’t jump in here on my first post and start a war... I just wanted to say Happy New Year to everyone and yes I do miss you all...

Carry on...
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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #394 on: January 10, 2018, 09:15:38 PM »
I have only told a small percentage of people.

Gotcha.

I just meant that I was just hearing about what was happening. I do think its ridiculous, but my point was that I certainly had nothing to do with that.

I actually had been wondering why I haven't seen many post from you on AVS.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 09:18:21 PM by Ccool96 »

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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #395 on: January 10, 2018, 09:24:00 PM »
Dylan and Tom,

I truly appreciate both of your comments.

Im not in the RS600 thread much anymore, but I still have my RS600.

Once I loaded the custom gamma curves it fixed the main issue I had with the unit which was the default HDR performance. Now it looks great with HDR.

Its hanging in my master bedroom and I use it every single night.

Yes, I remember all of us trying to get a good HDR picture once the Samsung 8500 UHD player was released and buying the HD Fury Integral to get SDR2020.  So long ago! lol  Then Manni & Arve come along and take it to the next level. :)

Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #396 on: January 10, 2018, 10:59:13 PM »
Yeah, AVS carries his speakers.  They remind me of Triad.  Mike G posted them on this forum.

It's Next Level Acoustics.

Gotcha - I had been curious about that.

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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #397 on: January 10, 2018, 11:04:44 PM »
I am excited about the next (hopefully) firmware update for the Oppo, giving it HDR tone mapping along the lines of the Lumagen. That will make the Oppo the player to have in my opinion.

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I should have quoted the post about the Samsung 8500. :)
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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #398 on: January 11, 2018, 01:11:00 AM »
I can't help but comment, since you seem desperate to talk about me. Have you ever taken the time to read all of my post? Clearly not. I hate that you have been banned, and you are having some sort of pity party, but I didn't have anything to do with you being banned.

Actually if you look at my post, just recently I said how ridiculous it is that so many good people are being banned. And the AVS will regret it when everyone there is gone.

But please elaborate on how I push Sony?? Do I like Sony projectors, Yes! Do I personally own them and use them, Yes. Do i think they have issues, absolutely!

I also own or have owned multiple JVC projectors, RS1, RS2, RS4810, RS600, and RS4500. I praised the RS600 for almost a solid year, for how great it was even compared to my Sony 5000ES, especially considering the cost difference.

I guess you were fine with my post, as long as they favored JVC?

And I don't push any product on AVS. I don't ever write "PM me or Call me" In my 10+ years on AVS I have only sold a handful of items.

I am on AVS, because I have a passion for AV, not because I need the money. I have been financially secure since the day I was born. I have befriended a small group of AVS guys over the years, and I have worked with that small group whenever approached, but thats really not the issue at hand.

But so you don't look and sound uneducated on the facts, I suggest you go back and read thru my 1000+ post. I have no Sony agenda. I have had many Sony projectors, many JVC projectors, many DPI and Sim2 projectors, and Barco projectors. I have no loyalty to any one brand. And I try to buy units that best fit my install.

But by all means feel free to continue to talk about how "I push Sony for all its worth". If you would even read back just a little ways you would see where I spent a month bashing Sony over a bad firmware they sent out for 5000ES projectors, which bricked many units. And how horrible and slow their response was to that issue. Oh, and that I have said numerous times that the dynamic laser dimming on the 885, is just flat out broken and doesn't work. Yep, thats a way to push products!

I have come to understand that Mike is emailing all his clients saying how he is being targeted at AVS for selling products, but again that has nothing to do with me.

But by all means, continue.....

Thank you. Lack of communication - which is sometimes the norm on the internet, due to long intervals and easy misunderstandings, is IMO the cause of 90% of the problems on forums etc. Thanks for chiming in. I'm sure this is exactly why you and Kris chatted on the phone - easy to clear the air talking. Not so easy typing.

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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #399 on: January 11, 2018, 01:16:43 AM »
So this is where the gang is all hanging out? I actually miss our dust-ups. Seegs, Andreas, Kris, etc... And I don’t mind everyone talking about me. I am excited I was included in some of the discussions here. I do find it interesting that the majority here are jvc owners. That is an odd trend. Anyway, I won’t jump in here on my first post and start a war... I just wanted to say Happy New Year to everyone and yes I do miss you all...

Carry on...

Welcome Joe. Some of the gang can't say hi at AVS forum anymore, so glad to see you. We don't need to " start a war ". We just need to remember why we do get so passionate at times - we all love home theater. You have a cool theater, and you love having friends over for movie nights just like I do. And you've got one hell of a cool projector.   8)

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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #400 on: January 11, 2018, 01:18:51 AM »
I am excited about the next (hopefully) firmware update for the Oppo, giving it HDR tone mapping along the lines of the Lumagen. That will make the Oppo the player to have in my opinion.

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I should have quoted the post about the Samsung 8500. :)

You may be right about the Oppo. Panasonic is adding some cool new features to their new player, so at least there are going to be some very good choices shortly - a lot better than 2 years ago !

Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #401 on: January 11, 2018, 03:30:05 AM »
I can't help but comment, since you seem desperate to talk about me. Have you ever taken the time to read all of my post? Clearly not. I hate that you have been banned, and you are having some sort of pity party, but I didn't have anything to do with you being banned.

Actually if you look at my post, just recently I said how ridiculous it is that so many good people are being banned. And the AVS will regret it when everyone there is gone.

But please elaborate on how I push Sony?? Do I like Sony projectors, Yes! Do I personally own them and use them, Yes. Do i think they have issues, absolutely!

I also own or have owned multiple JVC projectors, RS1, RS2, RS4810, RS600, and RS4500. I praised the RS600 for almost a solid year, for how great it was even compared to my Sony 5000ES, especially considering the cost difference.

I guess you were fine with my post, as long as they favored JVC?

And I don't push any product on AVS. I don't ever write "PM me or Call me" In my 10+ years on AVS I have only sold a handful of items.

I am on AVS, because I have a passion for AV, not because I need the money. I have been financially secure since the day I was born. I have befriended a small group of AVS guys over the years, and I have worked with that small group whenever approached, but thats really not the issue at hand.

But so you don't look and sound uneducated on the facts, I suggest you go back and read thru my 1000+ post. I have no Sony agenda. I have had many Sony projectors, many JVC projectors, many DPI and Sim2 projectors, and Barco projectors. I have no loyalty to any one brand. And I try to buy units that best fit my install.

But by all means feel free to continue to talk about how "I push Sony for all its worth". If you would even read back just a little ways you would see where I spent a month bashing Sony over a bad firmware they sent out for 5000ES projectors, which bricked many units. And how horrible and slow their response was to that issue. Oh, and that I have said numerous times that the dynamic laser dimming on the 885, is just flat out broken and doesn't work. Yep, thats a way to push products!

I have come to understand that Mike is emailing all his clients saying how he is being targeted at AVS for selling products, but again that has nothing to do with me.

But by all means, continue.....

I am not desperate to write about you (I have posted about you twice).

I just think it is the way you defend Sony and that you are a dealer that is not a good combination, I know about your history with projectors and you own and have owned many brands, but that does not change your defence. I also known you have bashed Sony for many things, but that does not change your defence now.  I think all dealers of AV equipment should identify themselves as a dealer if they need the money selling or not, but that is a forum problem. The biggest AV forum in Norway has very strict dealer rules and all dealers have to identify themselves as a dealer, if not and it gets out it will result in a ban.

But to me it gets a little silly when people (you included) say there must be something wrong when people can prefer the Z1 before the 885 in the tests done earlier. I have actually done the same earlier when it came to the VW1000/1100 compared to JVC models of the time, but when I bought a JVC and compared I had to admit I was wrong. And yes I know you had a couple of Z1/RS5400 earlier.

I also know you have nothing to do with me getting banned, and the way some are now there is not much of a reason needed to get the lifetime ban. I never got a reason after many emails trying to get an answer, I only got the message I insulted a lot of members. In Norway nothing I wrote would be considered insults, but that is another story. I have actually received threats (threatening to kill me) in PM´s at AVS and the sender is still posting there and I did report it I can assure you. I am not after pity, but I think the way the other forum is runned now is not the way to run a forum, I am actually glad I am not allowed to post there anymore. :)

This is an answer to the bolded/underlined sentence. If you read my posts over the years at AVS you would also see that I am not a fanboy of any brand, I have owned more Sonys than JVC´s during the years and also many DLP´s and Epsons. So you implying I am a JVC fan like many of the others at AVS is simply far from the truth.

After reading Dylans and others posts about you I am sure I was wrong so I apologize calling you out, but I think you as a dealer should be a little more careful about how you speak about brands. It can be misinterpreted by people, me included.

Do you have a company/store or do you just sell for fun not needing the money?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2018, 05:01:47 AM by Andreas21 »
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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #402 on: January 11, 2018, 09:39:00 AM »
I am not desperate to write about you (I have posted about you twice).

I just think it is the way you defend Sony and that you are a dealer that is not a good combination, I know about your history with projectors and you own and have owned many brands, but that does not change your defence. I also known you have bashed Sony for many things, but that does not change your defence now.  I think all dealers of AV equipment should identify themselves as a dealer if they need the money selling or not, but that is a forum problem. The biggest AV forum in Norway has very strict dealer rules and all dealers have to identify themselves as a dealer, if not and it gets out it will result in a ban.

But to me it gets a little silly when people (you included) say there must be something wrong when people can prefer the Z1 before the 885 in the tests done earlier. I have actually done the same earlier when it came to the VW1000/1100 compared to JVC models of the time, but when I bought a JVC and compared I had to admit I was wrong. And yes I know you had a couple of Z1/RS5400 earlier.

I also know you have nothing to do with me getting banned, and the way some are now there is not much of a reason needed to get the lifetime ban. I never got a reason after many emails trying to get an answer, I only got the message I insulted a lot of members. In Norway nothing I wrote would be considered insults, but that is another story. I have actually received threats (threatening to kill me) in PM´s at AVS and the sender is still posting there and I did report it I can assure you. I am not after pity, but I think the way the other forum is runned now is not the way to run a forum, I am actually glad I am not allowed to post there anymore. :)

This is an answer to the bolded/underlined sentence. If you read my posts over the years at AVS you would also see that I am not a fanboy of any brand, I have owned more Sonys than JVC´s during the years and also many DLP´s and Epsons. So you implying I am a JVC fan like many of the others at AVS is simply far from the truth.

After reading Dylans and others posts about you I am sure I was wrong so I apologize calling you out, but I think you as a dealer should be a little more careful about how you speak about brands. It can be misinterpreted by people, me included.

Do you have a company/store or do you just sell for fun not needing the money?

Andreas,

First of all, thank you for the apology. I have always tried to be careful about how I post, especially knowing how people take things out of content. I never post a lie or purposely try to mis-lead anyone. 

I have never praised Sony as the "end all / be all" of the projector world. I have spoke about the pros and cons of the 885, which I do believe is a very good projector. Just as I have spoke about the pros and cons of the RS4500,  RS600, or other previous JVC models. Each have their own strength and weaknesses but again both are fantastic projectors. 

I spoke with Kris Deering on Tuesday and we are both on the same exact page regarding the 885. Just as I said then, which he agreed, that I don't believe a "manual" iris setting will ever be added to this unit. It was never listed as a feature of the unit and no one even knew the unit had one until someone caught a video of it. Would it be great if they "turned it on"? Absolutely. But I think people are fooling themselves if they are just waiting for this to happen.

But I do think Sony can offer a few firmware updates which would fix some of these issues, without the need of this iris.

I believe they should increase the "dimming range" of the laser power setting. If the laser power is set to 0, it needs to put out even less light, so those with small or high-gain screen can easily target their desired fL for SDR. Even though from the best I can tell, this really isn't an issue except for a couple people with fairly small, high-gain screens.

I also believe Sony should be able to issue a firmware update to address the "non-functioning" dynamic dimming. There currently is no benefit to this feature at all. They have done a good job in with their "Dynamic Iris" systems, so I believe Sony can improve on this "Dynamic Laser Dimming".

I never said any A/B (Sony - JVC) demo was biased, or rigged in JVC's favor. I never weighted in at all on the John Schuermann's shootout. I did weigh in when Arrow demo'd a JVC RS4500 against the Sony 885, especially when one unit was calibrated and the other wasn't, to which he stated. I did say that I couldn't understand how Bandyka could say the JVC RS4500 "killed" the 885 in contrast, when Arrow confirmed they were both setup with a Native contrast between 16-17K:1 with matched light output. Now it seems clear the "Dynamic dimming" is broken on the 885, so the RS4500 should certainly preforms better in low APL scenes, especially if the DI features were enables on both units.

Both of these shootouts had guys who favored each of the units. I think a lot of these things come down to a person's budget and what aspects of an image are most important to them.

I run a 5000ES stack, so I can light up my 17' wide Stewart Vistascope 2-way masking screen at one house. I have a single 5000ES on a 14' wide 2.0 4-way masking screen at another house. Both of these units look great, especially on these large screens. But do I want even brighter units, and even higher native contrast? Heck Yes I do!

I am not a huge fan of DI tricks, and one reason I have always enjoyed my RS600 in my bedroom. It has incredible native contrast, and I don't have to deal with any trade-offs of DI.

And no, I do not have a storefront, and I don't push products on any AVS members. I am a dealer mainly so I can buy products for myself, and for other family and friends. I have been a member of AVS for about 13 years. I can tell you I haven't sold 13 projectors on AVS in all my years online. So thats less than one projector a year.

I hope within the next few years I will be able to move away from projectors completely, and have some sort of huge "LED Micro-Tile" display. 

Thanks,
Chris







« Last Edit: January 11, 2018, 09:42:14 AM by Ccool96 »

Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #403 on: January 11, 2018, 09:47:34 AM »
I also want to add to what @Javs said.

This site needs to be compatible with Tapatalk. It is all but unusable on my phone.

I told Alan Gouger the same exact thing just a couple weeks ago in regards to his dci-forum website.

I understand Mike's point about not wanting for them to having access to all the data, but if people can't easily follow this site, it will never grow.

Even if it never works with Tapatalk, it certainly needs a "Mobile-Friendly" version!

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Re: Banned at AVSForum
« Reply #404 on: January 11, 2018, 10:00:44 AM »
I also want to add to what @Javs said.

This site needs to be compatible with Tapatalk. It is all but unusable on my phone.

I told Alan Gouger the same exact thing just a couple weeks ago in regards to his dci-forum website.

I understand Mike's point about not wanting for them to having access to all the data, but if people can't easily follow this site, it will never grow.

Even if it never works with Tapatalk, it certainly needs a "Mobile-Friendly" version!

I agree. Not everybody is sitting at a desk with a computer handy.

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« Last Edit: January 11, 2018, 03:31:17 PM by AVSMike »
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