Banned at AVSForum

[rob-houston]

I'm starting to understand why some people get so frustrated with roxiedog. ...

On the bad side, he has posted 2 things that are completely false and seems to want to play games to keep from just admitting that he was wrong. I feel like I'm teaching junior high. ...

He even went off telling me that was uncalled for for me to tell him that what he posted was false. He doesn't seem to be able to handle being corrected, even when he is outright wrong, in which case I suggest that he not post things that are false.
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--Darin

DUH!    IGNORE is your friend!!!! I put the 'dog' on my ignore list after the first couple of his posts.

Anybody remember the snarky little DLP kid from the under $3,000 thread that posted in the over $3,000 thread that anyone with a projector that cost more than his $499 DLP had paid too much? I posted that he didn't know what he was talking about and I got an infraction for it! A badge of honor!

Remember the other little DLP fanboy that liked to argue with zombie in zombie's thread? I had a Sharp DT-100 and a DT-400 both of which I liked.

I quit going to a lot of threads unless I saw the last response was from a respected member. One thread, which may have been the one seegs got banned from, I went to the last page and only saw seegs, zombie, craig and mike's posts with a whole lot of ignored posts!!!!! Ignore is good!!!!!!! I had 52 members in my ignore list. Unfortunately you still have to see the damn (please don't ban me!) quotes!!

I think mike may be wasting his time with oOOBillO0o!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always heard that "Children should be seen and not heard". I think it should be "not seen and not heard" until they grow up (that might be 40 now days!).

Another nail in the coffin for me is Scott's podcast being cancelled.

[Bombertodd]

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Another nail in the coffin for me is Scott's podcast being cancelled.

Bummer, I liked his podcast.

[AVSCraig]

Myself and Bandyka have been conferring via PM about our upcoming 20LTD ,s ....i went to PM him this evening only to be greeted with a message he could not receive any PM,s.

I emailed him, and it turns out he has been Banned for "Mentioning selling his X9500 in the UK"      WHAT!!!     How is this against their "rules" ..

The forum has certainly degraded over the years... 

Bandyka just got banned - is that what you're saying ? 

[Tom Bley]

Bandyka just got banned - is that what you're saying ? 

[Dylan Seeger]

Myself and Bandyka have been conferring via PM about our upcoming 20LTD ,s ....i went to PM him this evening only to be greeted with a message he could not receive any PM,s.

I emailed him, and it turns out he has been Banned for "Mentioning selling his X9500 in the UK"      WHAT!!!     How is this against their "rules" ..

The forum has certainly degraded over the years... 

Wow, that's ridiculous. It seems they're using the dumbest of excuses to ban people these days.

[AVSCraig]

Wow, that's ridiculous. It seems they're using the dumbest of excuses to ban people these days.

I got in trouble yesterday for making a " snide comment " about the moderators.   

[darinp]

DUH!    IGNORE is your friend!!!!

I understand why the ignore feature works for some people, but I've never used it and probably never will. I see it as a way to let the misleaders get away with their misinformation.

I chuckle both when people threaten to put me on their ignore list and when they ask me to put them on my list. If they put me on their list then it just means that I get to correct their misinformation and they don't get to see it (unless they unignore the post). The last thing I would do is put somebody who is spouting misinformation on my ignore list, so asking me is fruitless. If they like the ignore feature so much they can put me on their list.

--Darin

[Dylan Seeger]

I understand why the ignore feature works for some people, but I've never used it and probably never will. I see it as a way to let the misleaders get away with their misinformation.

I chuckle both when people threaten to put me on their ignore list and when they ask me to put them on my list. If they put me on their list then it just means that I get to correct their misinformation and they don't get to see it (unless they unignore the post). The last thing I would do is put somebody who is spouting misinformation on my ignore list, so asking me is fruitless. If they like the ignore feature so much they can put me on their list.

--Darin

I too have never put anyone on my "ignore" list. I don't see the point. Like you, my mission is to correct misinformation. A few times I've been told by the same person that they were putting me back on their ignore list. To which I responded "why did you take me back off of it to begin with"?   

[Dylan Seeger]

I see Kris is dealing with newbies over on the other forum. I get that posting in pretty much any subforum over there can be intimidating, but before you decide to pick a fight or argument, it's probably best to know who is who over there. All the subforums have very intelligent and experienced posters who are professionals in that area of discussion. I saw one member ask Kris why his claims should be trusted (in regards to the 285ES not being able to map color/information on a 1:1 basis). I agree with Kris as far as color is concerned being mapped properly on a per pixel basis and is something I discussed in detail (with picture evidence) in my recent shootout write-up.

Kris is a professional in every sense of that word when it comes to him offering his opinion (or facts). Why wouldn't someone trust him? And again, this is something I pretty much only ever see in Sony threads, but I have to say that insecurities and some type of subconscious non-acceptance of issues comes into play here where these owners lash out at any negative criticisms towards the projector they own. It's gotten to the point where people are getting banned because of these insecure individuals. I guarantee that Bandyka getting banned has more to do with Sony-owner complaints against him than it does to the excuse they provided him when issuing the ban. I would say the same thing about how I was banned.

[Andreas21]

What I really don´t understand is why they let @roxiedog13 (yes he has a user in here also) continue to spread lies and misinforamtion over there for so long and they keep banning users who corrects him. He is clearly just defending his beloved Sony brand and is one of the biggest Sony fanboys in there.

He also claims to have seen the RS600 and Sony VW675 side by side for 450 hours, did he alway put on both and did a side by side test for 200+ movies?

He also says he calibrated both to the max of their potential, and he used a Spyder on the JVC with the Autocal and used a unprofiled Xrite meter for his Sony (maybe it was the spectro, but I don´t remember). And with this he says to have calibrated both to the max of their potential LOL. That is also an example of how he is spreading misinformation in almost every post. I am 100% sure none of his calibrations is even close to bringing out the best of any of these, and certainly not a Spyder calibrated JVC with no corrections after the Autocal.

What I also find strange is that he never admits he is wrong. I have been in many hard discussions at AVS during the years and I have learnt a lot from other members and I have also admitted I was wrong when I was. I was also under the impression that ANSI was the most important contrast, but after discussing the people like @darinp I have realised I was wrong and now know the most important is on/off contrast. I have also learnt a lot of other things in there, but now that forum is just a bad place to be and I only check in there once in a while to check out the posts of people I trust and see if I can learn something.

We really need to get this forum more busy and get more people to post in here, but we really don´t need people like @roxiedog13.

[bmoney]

What I really don´t understand is why they let @roxiedog13 (yes he has a user in here also) continue to spread lies and misinforamtion over there for so long and they keep banning users who corrects him. He is clearly just defending his beloved Sony brand and is one of the biggest Sony fanboys in there.

He also claims to have seen the RS600 and Sony VW675 side by side for 450 hours, did he alway put on both and did a side by side test for 200+ movies?

He also says he calibrated both to the max of their potential, and he used a Spyder on the JVC with the Autocal and used a unprofiled Xrite meter for his Sony (maybe it was the spectro, but I don´t remember). And with this he says to have calibrated both to the max of their potential LOL. That is also an example of how he is spreading misinformation in almost every post. I am 100% sure none of his calibrations is even close to bringing out the best of any of these, and certainly not a Spyder calibrated JVC with no corrections after the Autocal.

What I also find strange is that he never admits he is wrong. I have been in many hard discussions at AVS during the years and I have learnt a lot from other members and I have also admitted I was wrong when I was. I was also under the impression that ANSI was the most important contrast, but after discussing the people like @darinp I have realised I was wrong and now know the most important is on/off contrast. I have also learnt a lot of other things in there, but now that forum is just a bad place to be and I only check in there once in a while to check out the posts of people I trust and see if I can learn something.

We really need to get this forum more busy and get more people to post in here, but we really don´t need people like @roxiedog13.

this was the EXACT thing with "ShadyJ" he spewed misinformation in an inflamatory way about sibwoofer products...and never was banned (well he is banned now...but it tool about 3 years) yest i would get infractions and banned  for "bumping" my for sale thread by answering a question....and calling an mbm equivalent to a "ghettoblaster" lmao

[rob-houston]

I see Kris is dealing with newbies over on the other forum. I get that posting in pretty much any subforum over there can be intimidating, but before you decide to pick a fight or argument, it's probably best to know who is who over there. All the subforums have very intelligent and experienced posters who are professionals in that area of discussion. I saw one member ask Kris why his claims should be trusted (in regards to the 285ES not being able to map color/information on a 1:1 basis). I agree with Kris as far as color is concerned being mapped properly on a per pixel basis and is something I discussed in detail (with picture evidence) in my recent shootout write-up.

Kris is a professional in every sense of that word when it comes to him offering his opinion (or facts). Why wouldn't someone trust him? ...

The newbie has over 500 posts since sep 2008.

And don't forget Mike was getting the same treatment. Mike and Craig have provided a lot of good information for many years. I bought my interim HW40ES from Mike and would happily buy (a JVC) from avscience again. Excellent service (a little brown nosing)!

[stanger89]

Well probably part of the problem is I doubt us grown ups are reporting the posts of the children over there.

[AVSCraig]

The newbie has over 500 posts since sep 2008.

And don't forget Mike was getting the same treatment. Mike and Craig have provided a lot of good information for many years. I bought my interim HW40ES from Mike and would happily buy (a JVC) from avscience again. Excellent service (a little brown nosing)!

Flattery will get you somewhere ! I'm lucky I haven't gotten in too much trouble over there, since I've been a member since 2003. I have blocked people - mostly to give myself a time out so I don't post a response that would get me banned when I'm ticked off. Also, never post drunk.   

[ericglo]

I glanced over this thread last night.

Kal over at Curt Palme explained it to me. He said Vertical Scam buys all of these forums for ad placement. They need page hits or impressions to make money. They could care less about the content. I think one of the reasons Scott and Mark are doing more stuff like reviews is to try to generate the traffic that Vertical Scam wants.

I have really cut back on the amount of time I spend in the pj forums. Ruined well pardon the pun ruined it for me. Along with some of the other culprits and their antics, I got tired of it. I am not sure how many posts of mine have been deleted both innocuous and inflammatory.

I was really reading and learning a lot over in the speaker forum. With Floyd Toole participating, it was quite informative.

Could this forum take off? Possibly, but it would need some work. Number one you guys need content. Whether how to guides, a resource database or reviews, the forum needs a reason for people to come over to look, read and then participate.

With Mike and Craig being commercial contractors, they could put up some how to guides from the simple to extravagant.

An idea I have always thought would generate a lot of traffic would be a resource database with pertinent data on pjs. Something along the lines of calibrated on/off cr, ANSI cr, lumens and sound level. If it was done by the same person in the same controlled environment, then it would be a nice reference that people could conveniently click to.

I have other ideas, but that is a good start.


I did see where AMartin was banned possibly. Maybe JVC hired him and it was a conflict of interest to be on AVS.