2022 NFL Playoffs

[Paul Heroy]

At the half, I was really afraid this was turning into a blowout with Mahomes limping and KC being pretty badly outplayed especially on the lines. KC had the ball what, just over 8 minutes? I thought Philly would wear them down in a big way, though the extended SB half might have helped. 

Philly got thoroughly outcoached in the 2nd H, and Mahomes put on one of the best and gutsiest performances I've seen. Turned into a great game. 

[tripplej]

Great close game. Was everybody fooled by the tubi ad?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tubi-fakes-out-viewers-2023-super-bowl-ad-commercial-streaming-service-1235323451/

half time was good as well.

[bmoney]

Penalty was iffy

[DLCPhoto]

My wife and I are not football fans (although we do watch actual 'football' - Premiere League soccer!:, but do enjoy the Super Bowl once a year for whatever reason.

I read about the availability of a 4k/HDR stream from Fox Sports, which piqued my interest. So I watched it using my Roku, in my theater, with the new NZ9. I have a 160" 2.35:1 screen, and used the madVR Envy to take it to around 2.20:1 with its NLS (actually I used cropping more, with stretching less), and this worked pretty well.

90% of the time the image looked awesome. The detail and contrast were excellent, colors were bold and vivid, and it just made for a really enjoyable visual treat. Occasionally the image suffered due to bandwidth issues who knows where, but most of the time it was phenomenal.

[Paul Heroy]

Great close game. Was everybody fooled by the tubi ad?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tubi-fakes-out-viewers-2023-super-bowl-ad-commercial-streaming-service-1235323451/

half time was good as well.

Haha, yeah that did get us. I suspected pretty quickly that it was a fake out but my wife (who of course didn't have the advantage of being on the remote and knowing that I hadn't touched it) kind of freaked out. 

[Paul Heroy]

Penalty was iffy

Assume you're talking about the defensive holding call late that gave KC a huge 1st down. I thought so too initially. The first replay didn't show the full play and Mike Pereira said there was more to it but the Eagles player later admitted he tugged the jersey and hoped the officials would overlook it. But looking at it again on YouTube it was a really small tug, that could definitely have been overlooked. I can see both sides of it. Can't seem to have an NFL game these days without a controversial call late.

[tripplej]

To see all the commercials, go here: https://www.cnet.com/culture/sports/super-bowl-commercials-2023-watch-all-the-big-ads-from-the-big-game/

[tripplej]

Haha, yeah that did get us. I suspected pretty quickly that it was a fake out but my wife (who of course didn't have the advantage of being on the remote and knowing that I hadn't touched it) kind of freaked out.

While looking online, looks like that commerical fooled a lot of people! Even, for us, we thought the kids did something! lol.

[David Vaughn]

Assume you're talking about the defensive holding call late that gave KC a huge 1st down. I thought so too initially. The first replay didn't show the full play and Mike Pereira said there was more to it but the Eagles player later admitted he tugged the jersey and hoped the officials would overlook it. But looking at it again on YouTube it was a really small tug, that could definitely have been overlooked. I can see both sides of it. Can't seem to have an NFL game these days without a controversial call late.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/eagles-james-bradberry-admits-committing-late-debated-penalty-holding

[bmoney]

just as a ref you KNOW that call is going to 100% end the game so put the flag away unless its egregious ugg

[David Vaughn]

just as a ref you KNOW that call is going to 100% end the game so put the flag away unless its egregious ugg

That holding was more egregious than the call on Jimmy Ward in the championship game which gave Philly a first down when the game was tied 7-7 (looking at the replay, Jimmy never grabbed the receiver, the receiver initiated the contact) and that was a monumental play in the game (even though the 49ers would have lost since they didn't have their starting QB). 

Like the case with Ward, the QB was looking in that direction and it was his first read, so the officials can see that it impacted the play and threw the flag. You can't pull on a players jersey at any point, and the DB did it in that instance and didn't allow the WR to get into his route. 

Then again...I'm just glad Philly lost

[bmoney]

there was no pulling of the jersey.  if thre was it was almost unnoticable at slow mo speeds never mind in real time. 

the NFL constantly has these penalties change the game.  thats a huge issue.  and it seems more and more common since gambling became widely legal...just a thought

[David Vaughn]

there was no pulling of the jersey.  if thre was it was almost unnoticable at slow mo speeds never mind in real time.

the NFL constantly has these penalties change the game.  thats a huge issue.  and it seems more and more common since gambling became widely legal...just a thought

I saw it in real time and it was confirmed with the replay. He impeded his progress up the field on an "out and up" and it didn't allow him to release from the defender in order to run under the pass. I firmly believe that if Mahomes threw the ball towards a different receiver that a flag wouldn't have been thrown, but when he was trying to throw it that that particular receiver and he was held, they had to throw the flag. 

[bmoney]

the bigger question that will constitute more of the poor throwing of the flag...

would this big a deal and debate be had if the call WASN'T made...and the answer is no. noone would have even replayed it.  so therefore to me, that means the call should NOT have been made

[Paul Heroy]

Cheffers has a rep of being a ref whose crews call pretty tight games and throw flags. Bradberry and all the players probably knew that going in and probably should have factored that into any calculated type plays, as he admitted this was.

But the issue of what would have happened if the flag wasn't thrown is hypothetical. We don't know for sure, and if KC ended up kicking a FG right there with a fair bit of time left for Philly and the game goes to OT or Hurts somehow leads a TD drive to outright win it, you better believe there's some grousing about that potential hold call. So much of the officiating commentary is game results based unless it's really egregious.

(Or both... *ahem*)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjvZHMod_3E