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Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« on: November 04, 2020, 07:28:19 PM »
Panamorph is introducing two new DCR lenses. These are direct attach lenses. They fit close to the projector lens. This allows them to be smaller and cheaper, while still performing like the larger DCR lens. They work down to a 1.4 throw ratio.https://www.panamorph.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/DCR-J1-scaled.jpg

The MSRP of these new lenses is $5,995.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 07:33:24 PM by AVSMike »
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2020, 05:38:16 AM »
Panamorph is introducing two new DCR lenses. These are direct attach lenses. They fit close to the projector lens. This allows them to be smaller and cheaper, while still performing like the larger DCR lens. They work down to a 1.4 throw ratio.https://www.panamorph.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/DCR-J1-scaled.jpg

The MSRP of these new lenses is $5,995.
So if I’m doing my math right
i have a 113” (9.14’) wide 2.4:1 screen and the lense is a few inches further away than 13’ 
that puts me right around 1.4 throw (I think)
would these work?  The benefit is using all the PJ pixels instead of the using the zoom Meathod to fill the screen correct? Which in turn adds brightness
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2020, 07:57:27 AM »
Very clean attachment with these lenses ! 
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2020, 08:03:54 AM »
Additional info from Shawn Kelly of Panamorph, stolen from elsewhere - 

" To remove the lens itself involves removing the two screws in front and pulling the J1/S1 out. This will leave a retaining ring in the lens opening that is part of the installation but doesn't interfere with usage even without the lens.

Throw distance is pretty much the entire range of the projector. At extreme vertical shift from the screen top the max image size will gradually decrease because the beam can get cut off but for the vast majority of installations it's full range as long as the projector is horizontally centered on the screen +/- a few inches.

These lenses are far easier to set up than the plate-based systems because they're designed for each specific projector model. However, it's worth repeating that they are optimized for 2.4:1 screens so older 2.35:1 screens will show most movies with a bit of left/right overspill.


Also FWIW, besides being optimized for 2.4:1 screens these lenses will have more limited compatibility with extreme vertical shift scenarios because they are actually recessed into the projector lens opening. We do not recommend use at low throw ratios where projector vertical placement is significantly (ie feet instead of inches) below or above the top of the screen. Horizontal centering should be within a few inches of the screen center as well. If more universal compatibility is desired that's what the full size Paladin DCR is for but within typical home theater installations the performance will be identical. " 
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2020, 10:05:43 AM »
Installation goes like this (and a single Philips screwdriver is all that’s required) …



Unpack the lens. Remove the two screws that attach the lens mount to the retainer ring to remove the retainer ring (it comes loosely assembled).

Install the retaining ring into the projector opening with the studs level and toward the ceiling.

Make sure the projector lens is horizontally centered in the projector (and therefore that the projector is horizontally centered on the screen and pointing at the screen horizontal center).

Make sure the projector test pattern is confirmed to be square with the screen (ie no projector roll, pitch or yaw).

Make sure the projector lens is clean (a microfiber cloth is included).

Remove the rear DCR lens cover, install the DCR lens over the retaining ring and tighten the two screws just enough to secure the DCR lens while allowing the assembly to be rotated in the projector opening.

Remove the front film and make sure the DCR lens rotation is proper by making sure the test pattern is symmetric, then tighten the two assembly screws a bit more (don’t over tighten).

Show a 2.4:1 movie, put the projector in proper anamorphic mode (V-Stretch for Sony, Anamorphic C for JVC) and then fill the width of the screen with the movie.

Adjust the lens tilt and projector vertical shift to make sure the beam is getting through the lens to fill the screen.

There is only a slight variation in vertical image height with this adjustment but experimentation may lead to the best fit.
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2020, 09:44:55 AM »
So, someone that owns the DCR-C cannot just purchase/use this new mounting scheme?

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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2020, 09:50:02 AM »
So, someone that owns the DCR-C cannot just purchase/use this new mounting scheme?
No - different size lens I believe. You could sell yours and buy the new one though. 
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2020, 09:59:18 AM »
No - different size lens I believe. You could sell yours and buy the new one though.

Ha,ha,ha. ;D  Of course I can sell my lens and buy a new one.:P  Not gonna happen though.
The price of the DCR-C was the max I wanted to pay.  Really glad I got in on that deal. 8)

Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2020, 01:47:22 PM »
Will this work with a Sony VW285ES

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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2020, 06:56:40 PM »
Will this work with a Sony VW285ES
No, but Panamorph has one made specifically for the Sony. DCR-S1. Looks about the same, but made to fit the Sony projector. Same price. If you would like pricing, give us a call. :)
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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2020, 11:41:53 AM »
Additional info from Shawn Kelly of Panamorph, stolen from elsewhere -

" To remove the lens itself involves removing the two screws in front and pulling the J1/S1 out. This will leave a retaining ring in the lens opening that is part of the installation but doesn't interfere with usage even without the lens.

Throw distance is pretty much the entire range of the projector. At extreme vertical shift from the screen top the max image size will gradually decrease because the beam can get cut off but for the vast majority of installations it's full range as long as the projector is horizontally centered on the screen +/- a few inches.

These lenses are far easier to set up than the plate-based systems because they're designed for each specific projector model. However, it's worth repeating that they are optimized for 2.4:1 screens so older 2.35:1 screens will show most movies with a bit of left/right overspill.


Also FWIW, besides being optimized for 2.4:1 screens these lenses will have more limited compatibility with extreme vertical shift scenarios because they are actually recessed into the projector lens opening. We do not recommend use at low throw ratios where projector vertical placement is significantly (ie feet instead of inches) below or above the top of the screen. Horizontal centering should be within a few inches of the screen center as well. If more universal compatibility is desired that's what the full size Paladin DCR is for but within typical home theater installations the performance will be identical. "
How noticeable is the over spill on a 2:35:1 screen?  Would the original DCR lens eliminate the over spill?

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Re: Panamorph DCR-J1 and DCR-S1
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 12:33:38 PM »
How noticeable is the over spill on a 2:35:1 screen?  Would the original DCR lens eliminate the over spill?
I've got a little overscan with my DCR lens. It's not really noticable at all, and I have on electric screen. If you have a fixed screen, the masking is quite a bit better. 

You can barely see some overscan on the right edge of my screen in these shots. On darker shots you can't see it at all. 
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 12:42:19 PM by AVSCraig »
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