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JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)

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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1500 on: April 27, 2018, 02:16:29 PM »
VS4500
12,000:1 Contrast Ratio (typical) - 10,000:1(minimum)

VS4700
Contrast Ratio - >12,000:1 minimum

Bottom end contrast spec has gone up slightly.

Except it's not a home theater projector. So the specs are basically meaningless for our purposes.
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1501 on: April 27, 2018, 02:53:27 PM »
That's the 8K e shift projector for $120,000.00 ! At least that's the price I saw someone mention. 

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL102494

Note that this is not a home theater projector either.

AUD$120k is the price quoted to me from JVC here in Aus.  :)
The projector IS available here in Aus to purchase BUT i was advised it  would provide no benefit over the current Z1/RS4500 in a Home Theatre environment, its aimed for use in  Celestial Simulators and such.

If and a "BIG If" there is a replacement for the current Z1/RS4500 , the price will be ( tentative advice) in the vicinity of double what the current Z1/RS4500 sells for here in Aus.

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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1502 on: April 27, 2018, 03:31:10 PM »
My understanding from all the unsubstantiated rumors, is the RS4500 will stay as is, and there will be a new brighter model aimed straight at the VW5000. So that new double the cost unit isn't a replacement - it's in addition to the RS4500. Mind you - I don't know anything - these are just swirling rumors. But replacing the RS4500 with a $60K or $70K projector, and not keeping the RS4500, makes no sense. That's a mighty big gap between a $7K ( RS640 ) and a $70K projector.
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1503 on: April 27, 2018, 05:25:00 PM »
Agree 100% that I find it hard to believe that this will have native 8k panels.   I also don't think there will be another model that replaces the RS4500 directly for at least another year or 2. 

I would think that there should be fairly big updates coming to the lower models and native 4k has to be at the forefront.   Wouldn't be surprised to see maybe a the top tier a laser light source at a price point below the RS4500 that directly competes with the 885/760.

8K does seem a bit hard to believe but I can assure you this info came through from a senior JVC representative speaking to representatives from the factory at a recent trade show. I also don't think we'll see a full 4500 replacement for a while either.

All signs are pointing to a significant updates in the lower model range. There could be some further info through about them fairly soon.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 05:28:38 PM by ozhdht »

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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1504 on: April 28, 2018, 09:17:04 AM »
I don't believe it. I think Wolf is working on a home theater projector based on the RS4700, so an 8K eshift machine makes sense. And, I don't see any native 8K projectors in JVC's Visualization projector lineup. So native 8K would have to spring out of nowhere.
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1505 on: April 28, 2018, 09:59:07 AM »
Who's taking bets?  Hehe

I've got $20 on native 4K + eshift to get to a pseudo 8K image! :D

Though native 8K would be amazing too!

Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1506 on: April 28, 2018, 11:08:47 AM »
Who's taking bets?  Hehe

I've got $20 on native 4K + eshift to get to a pseudo 8K image! :D

Though native 8K would be amazing too!

I'd love either!

Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1507 on: April 28, 2018, 05:33:48 PM »
I don't believe it. I think Wolf is working on a home theater projector based on the RS4700, so an 8K eshift machine makes sense. And, I don't see any native 8K projectors in JVC's Visualization projector lineup. So native 8K would have to spring out of nowhere.

Craig, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 8K e-shift myself frankly. It could have been misinterpreted in discussion between JVC's local and japanese counterparts quite easily. I will definitely go back with that query as it has a lot of merit.

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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1508 on: April 29, 2018, 08:56:26 AM »
I'd love either!

At probably $ 120K, we would be glad to sell you one. In the mean time, I'll be watching my RS4500, which is selling for a fraction of that cost.
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1509 on: April 29, 2018, 09:30:13 AM »
At probably $ 120K, we would be glad to sell you one. In the mean time, I'll be watching my RS4500, which is selling for a fraction of that cost.

I never said I would love paying for one :)

Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1510 on: April 30, 2018, 05:18:25 AM »
I don't believe it. I think Wolf is working on a home theater projector based on the RS4700, so an 8K eshift machine makes sense. And, I don't see any native 8K projectors in JVC's Visualization projector lineup. So native 8K would have to spring out of nowhere.

Solely based on the amount time it took them to finally introduce their first 4k native panel in the RS4500 I don't see them being the first to jump into native 8k?
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1511 on: April 30, 2018, 09:18:09 PM »
Solely based on the amount time it took them to finally introduce their first 4k native panel in the RS4500 I don't see them being the first to jump into native 8k?

That's essentially what I put back to my senior JVC contact about it as it struck me as a major point. I re-read his email to me again where he states he was told the Z2 will be 'native 8K', as I had thought perhaps he's only loosely stated '8K', but that wasn't the case. I've asked if he's certain it's not an e-shift implementation.

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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1512 on: April 30, 2018, 09:30:49 PM »
JVC have actually had a native 8K DiLA panel since 2008...

http://i.imgur.com/MwtLqpn.jpg
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https://www.engadget.com/2008/05/02/jvcs-8k4k-d-ila-chip-enables-one-display-to-produce-super-hi-vi/
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Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1513 on: May 01, 2018, 01:04:04 AM »
I re-read his email to me again where he states he was told the Z2 will be 'native 8K',

Which makes the pricing of the "Z2" ( rumoured ;) ) understandable.. 

Re: JVC RS4500 (native 4K laser projector)
« Reply #1514 on: May 01, 2018, 03:57:21 AM »
Which makes the pricing of the "Z2" ( rumoured ;) ) understandable..

That is true, but owning an RS4500 the 4K panel and it's tack sharp clarity is one of it's greatest strong suits.  Seems to me that jumping to a native 8K panel is having the buggy before the horse so to speak?

I would rather see a native 4K unit with increased contrast, more lumens and full P3 w/out the light loss than a native 8K unit.  Unless you are sitting 5 feet form the screen I just don't see how going to 8K will really deliver much improvement over native 4K w top tier optics like the RS4500 has. 

I have never personally seen 8K so maybe it will provide a "slap in the face" improvement but I am skeptical.

I don't see in any of the forums where people with native 4K units are clamoring for more pixels so it just seems like maybe more of a marketing ploy than a real technological advance? 
« Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 04:00:08 AM by Baseball0618 »
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