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JVC RS500 / 600 Owners

Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2016, 08:42:37 PM »
I would guess they will refresh them next year at Cedia, like the usually do !

If by refresh they do something like eshift version 7 or whatever in anything but an entry level pj rather than true 4K, how many times can you reboot an original and make it appreciably better?  By only having an uber expensive 4K model and the remainder 'new' models with eshift would be disappointing.  Not that eshift is inferior to 4K but considering that Sony now has how many 4K models below their state of the art model could push many towards Sony especially as more UHD Bluray players are released including the much sought after Oppo 203 and more new releases of UHD BR and more UHD streaming even if they are 2K to 4K.  The upgraditis itch doesn't have to make sense, and probably more often than not many who purchase new tech is not because their current equipment is broken but rather they want the newest and best that they can afford and another 'new' version of eshift just doesn't feel like an upgrade anymore despite the fact that it most likely will look much better than what is currently owned.

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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2016, 09:33:38 AM »
If by refresh they do something like eshift version 7 or whatever in anything but an entry level pj rather than true 4K, how many times can you reboot an original and make it appreciably better?  By only having an uber expensive 4K model and the remainder 'new' models with eshift would be disappointing.  Not that eshift is inferior to 4K but considering that Sony now has how many 4K models below their state of the art model could push many towards Sony especially as more UHD Bluray players are released including the much sought after Oppo 203 and more new releases of UHD BR and more UHD streaming even if they are 2K to 4K.  The upgraditis itch doesn't have to make sense, and probably more often than not many who purchase new tech is not because their current equipment is broken but rather they want the newest and best that they can afford and another 'new' version of eshift just doesn't feel like an upgrade anymore despite the fact that it most likely will look much better than what is currently owned.

They could be adding a wanted feature. :)
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2016, 03:56:13 PM »
They could be adding a wanted feature. :)

Ok, RS600 has 10 bit depth, P3, hdr10, to that the Z1 adds a laser and a top tier lens.  Dolby Vision might be nice someday  on projectors and nothing yet on UHD BR wouldn't seem to be high on the wanted feature list.  The RS600 really only seems to be lacking the laser/brightness and uber lens, with most other features the same or is there more to be had besides those?

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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2016, 05:42:06 PM »
Ok, RS600 has 10 bit depth, P3, hdr10, to that the Z1 adds a laser and a top tier lens.  Dolby Vision might be nice someday  on projectors and nothing yet on UHD BR wouldn't seem to be high on the wanted feature list.  The RS600 really only seems to be lacking the laser/brightness and uber lens, with most other features the same or is there more to be had besides those?

Having high lumens and great native contrast is pretty tough to do. Name one other projector, beside the RS4500 that has both. :)
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2016, 09:03:56 PM »
Having high lumens and great native contrast is pretty tough to do. Name one other projector, beside the RS4500 that has both. :)

And that's why it can command its price, I'm sure the as the reviews come in it will stand head and shoulders above the other 4K projectors, which is all well fine for the very well heeled aficionado.  But it would seem reasonable that JVC could offer something between the RS600 and Z1 that just adds true 4K to all the other superb capabilities of the RS600 with perhaps a somewhat better lens, if there is one , but not quite at the superiority of the Z1 lens.   If Sony were not doing this then there would be no discussion.  But for JVC to consider eshift close enough except for the flagship model just seems that JVC doesn't understand the home theater crowd's desire to upgrade like trying grab that brass ring, and a $35 grand pj isn't the upgrade most of us can do.  But maybe they feel that if Sony can charge $50 grand, then no one should complain about $35 grand for a pj that may likely outperform the significantly more expensive Sony.  C'mon JVC, Sony has thrown down the VW1100 gauntlet, are you getting  in the ring or just gonna sit at ringside for another round? You've shown your mettle with the Z1 on the high ground , whats you got for the middle ground?

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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2016, 08:29:20 AM »
there was an rs600 for sale with 60 hours on it for 4300$!! damn I missed that one!  could have sold my rs400 and paid a fraction for a flagship PJ...oh well
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2016, 09:15:17 AM »
The post from Kraine makes no sense to me.  If it is just about firmware updates to the current line why new model numbers?  If it is something more substantial why not wait another 5 months for CEDIA?  Inquiring minds want to know!
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2016, 02:12:22 PM »
my gut tells me its a firmware update that cant be done to the existing models...gotta boost those sales somehow
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2016, 09:13:54 PM »
The post from Kraine makes no sense to me.  If it is just about firmware updates to the current line why new model numbers?  If it is something more substantial why not wait another 5 months for CEDIA?  Inquiring minds want to know!
Actually CEDIA Expo is 10 months away (not 5) - i.e., Sept. 2017.  I do doubt that we will see new models of the JVC lamp based projectors introduced before IFA and CEDIA shows.  Of course a new firmware release for the current models could come at any time.
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #84 on: November 13, 2016, 10:23:53 PM »
I wonder if JVC will do like Tesla did...take the profit from the early adopters, and make a Projector for a much lower price?
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2016, 12:18:00 AM »
Actually CEDIA Expo is 10 months away (not 5) - i.e., Sept. 2017.  I do doubt that we will see new models of the JVC lamp based projectors introduced before IFA and CEDIA shows.  Of course a new firmware release for the current models could come at any time.

He was talking about another 5 months from the time (March/April) Kraine announced that JVC would introduce replacements for the 400/500/600.
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2016, 12:21:24 AM »
I wonder if JVC will do like Tesla did...take the profit from the early adopters, and make a Projector for a much lower price?

No. Compared to their competition, JVC is already offering a lot of bang for the buck.
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2016, 04:09:27 AM »
He was talking about another 5 months from the time (March/April) Kraine announced that JVC would introduce replacements for the 400/500/600.

Yes.  Also, Kraine may have misunderstood some information he received from JVC. 
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Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #88 on: November 14, 2016, 11:42:29 AM »
And that's why it can command its price, I'm sure the as the reviews come in it will stand head and shoulders above the other 4K projectors, which is all well fine for the very well heeled aficionado.  But it would seem reasonable that JVC could offer something between the RS600 and Z1 that just adds true 4K to all the other superb capabilities of the RS600 with perhaps a somewhat better lens, if there is one , but not quite at the superiority of the Z1 lens.   If Sony were not doing this then there would be no discussion.  But for JVC to consider eshift close enough except for the flagship model just seems that JVC doesn't understand the home theater crowd's desire to upgrade like trying grab that brass ring, and a $35 grand pj isn't the upgrade most of us can do.  But maybe they feel that if Sony can charge $50 grand, then no one should complain about $35 grand for a pj that may likely outperform the significantly more expensive Sony.  C'mon JVC, Sony has thrown down the VW1100 gauntlet, are you getting  in the ring or just gonna sit at ringside for another round? You've shown your mettle with the Z1 on the high ground , whats you got for the middle ground?

I'm sure JVC will have something in that " middle ground " price point - eventually. In the mean time, I watched " Star Trek Beyond " again last night with some friends, and it sure looked amazing !

Re: JVC RS500 / 600 Owners
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »
I'm sure JVC will have something in that " middle ground " price point - eventually. In the mean time, I watched " Star Trek Beyond " again last night with some friends, and it sure looked amazing !

Oh, go ahead, as if it isn't hard enough holding out til next year's new pjs  :)

Maybe once the oppo 203 is released might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back!

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