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Zappiti 4K HDR Media System

AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2021, 04:46:58 PM »
Just don't expect that you will be able to immediately rip every new UHD disc that you purchase.  I don't know what Zappiti uses for decryption.  I expect that it has a server side database with encryption keys for each title.

There are Blu-Ray discs and a few UHD discs that use Screenpass.  There is also a new AACS 2.1 encryption version that is very difficult to break used on some UHD discs.

With AnyDVD HD, I sometimes need to wait a few days after disc release, or a few weeks in some cases, before I can backup the disc.  Some cannot be backed up at all; Knives Out purchased from Best Buy for example.

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I ripped Pulp Fiction no problem. Also, Knives Out on 4K BR ripped no problem. 

True about new discs - Scott Pilgrim on 4K won't rip yet. Looper on 4K did !

The Zappiti team has been very helpful too.
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AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2021, 04:51:38 PM »
Using the Zappiti has been great. Watched " Train To Busan " last night with a friend. Fun movie, looked and sounded every bit as good as using my Oppo player, but no menus to fade through ( or previews - my wife might miss those ). 

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2021, 05:22:03 PM »
I ripped Pulp Fiction no problem. Also, Knives Out on 4K BR ripped no problem.

True about new discs - Scott Pilgrim on 4K won't rip yet. Looper on 4K did !

The Zappiti team has been very helpful too.
What is the error message that comes up?
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AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2021, 05:54:29 PM »
What is the error message that comes up?
" Unable to rip the disk for now. Please try again in a few days. "

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2021, 05:58:07 PM »
I ripped Pulp Fiction no problem. Also, Knives Out on 4K BR ripped no problem.

True about new discs - Scott Pilgrim on 4K won't rip yet. Looper on 4K did !

The Zappiti team has been very helpful too.
Sometimes it depends on where you purchased the disc.  A disc from Best Buy might have a different AACS key than one purchased from Amazon.

I was able to back up Scott Pilgrim with Any DVD so it should be added to the Zappiti database soon.    Unless you bought it from Amazon which is listed as not supported in the Any DVD database...

Scott Pilgrim vs the World -- OPD: (Amazon US) BD_9d5e8e458364

List of UHDs currently UN-supported in AnyDVD | RedFox Forum

Of course disc support by Any DVD might not match support from other products.
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AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2021, 06:06:27 PM »
Sometimes it depends on where you purchased the disc.  A disc from Best Buy might have a different AACS key than one purchased from Amazon.

I was able to back up Scott Pilgrim with Any DVD so it should be added to the Zappiti database soon.
Taken ripped fine. The only ones that haven't are Zombieland 1 & 2 on 4K. 342 discs so far, including 167 4K movies.

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2021, 07:34:37 PM »
Maybe they are still working on the decode of the copyright 
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AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2021, 07:49:34 PM »
Sometimes it depends on where you purchased the disc.  A disc from Best Buy might have a different AACS key than one purchased from Amazon.

I was able to back up Scott Pilgrim with Any DVD so it should be added to the Zappiti database soon.    Unless you bought it from Amazon which is listed as not supported in the Any DVD database...

Scott Pilgrim vs the World -- OPD: (Amazon US) BD_9d5e8e458364

List of UHDs currently UN-supported in AnyDVD | RedFox Forum

Of course disc support by Any DVD might not match support from other products.
Mine came from Amazon. No big hurry, as I have 375 other discs to rip including 103 4K discs. The 4K discs will take 4635 minutes alone, unless my 2nd drive arrives soon. Then only 2317 minutes ( about 39 hours ). That 2nd drive will speed things up! 

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2021, 12:08:00 AM »
I really like the idea of instant access to my movie collection, but the idea of feeding close to 700 discs into a ripper is daunting.  I think I had read you can buy extra disc drives to use, at a reasonable cost, so you can feed perhaps 3 at a time, or something like that.  But even so, it is still daunting.

I would even consider the cost of a Kaleidescape system if they offered some path to add movies I've already purchased, even if I had to pay a small fee for each movie.  But they don't seem interested in that.  And no  way am I going to buy all those movies yet again.

I have all my movies in the CollectorZ database, so can easily look through the collection on a phone, PC, etc., to decide what I want to watch.  I obviously then have to go get the Disc and put it in, which as Dave Vaughn indicates isn't really a big deal.  But I have to admit it would be cool to be able to access them with a nice GUI and just start playing them.

I vaguely recall some other limitations if I were to use Zappiti, in terms of 3d? subtitles?  other?  Any shortcomings compared to conventional disc play?  Things you wish were different, or needed to be added (or removed)?
K-scape sends you an Alto and you load all of your existing discs onto it. Then you pay a small fee per movie to get a digital copy that you can load onto your system.
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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2021, 06:58:21 AM »
K-scape sends you an Alto and you load all of your existing discs onto it. Then you pay a small fee per movie to get a digital copy that you can load onto your system.
Interesting.  I had contacted them a couple of years ago about this, and they didn't present this option.  I'll have to get back in touch to get the details on this.  Still a lot of work, and money, but it is appealing...

Thanks.

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2021, 09:15:12 AM »
Wait they make you pay a fee for movies you already own?! No thanks 
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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2021, 01:19:24 PM »
Wait they make you pay a fee for movies you already own?! No thanks
Yes. They are doing work to send you an Alto and to load the movies onto your que. They should get paid for doing this work. If you had someone come in and load all of your movies onto your system, you would expect to pay them, would you not?
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AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2021, 01:29:13 PM »
K-scape sends you an Alto and you load all of your existing discs onto it. Then you pay a small fee per movie to get a digital copy that you can load onto your system.
The Alto isn't even listed at K Scape anymore. Not on the dealer price sheet either. 

AVSCraig

Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2021, 01:37:19 PM »
And K Scape is a LOT more expensive!

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Re: Zappiti 4K HDR Media System
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2021, 02:14:12 PM »
Yes. They are doing work to send you an Alto and to load the movies onto your que. They should get paid for doing this work. If you had someone come in and load all of your movies onto your system, you would expect to pay them, would you not?
Sorry the way you initially posted. It didn’t read as if they were doing anything. 
reguardless for the premium prince of the k scape. It should be a courtesy opp lol
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