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JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread

Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2018, 11:18:30 AM »
Yes and yes, they might have meant ANSI, and yes, contrast with the iris clamped down might not be better than the current gen e-shifts (but perhaps somewhat better contrast with the iris wide open due to less scattering as a result of the smaller chip - at least that makes sense in theory...;))... Let´s wait and see, should not be too long now until we receive some initial units for test at our end at least as we will showcase the release of these models in Norway. Currently the units meant for this introduction event is pending an important firmware update to hopefully get the iris activated and probably some other stuff... ;)
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2018, 11:25:42 AM »
I got to thinking about this....did you possibly typo and mean 1,300,000 to 800,000:1 fully closed? Yes, the gap is smaller between 130,000 and 80,000:1 fully open.

Is it visibly significant between 130,000 and 80,000:1 (fully open, properly calibrated)?

No typo. Native will be closer, when iris is opened up. Talking about the RS540 at 130,000:1 and the RS2000 at 80,000:1. Those numbers are with iris closed. When open, they will be considerably less.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2018, 01:28:55 PM »
This might be a dumb question but I am debating between the RS2000 and RS3000. Now here is the maybe "dumb" question. My projector is mounted in a separate room and I built a box to put in the wall with some edmund optics glass. If I got with the RS3000 and the bigger lens, is the output from the projector via the lens somehow bigger? If that makes sense.


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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2018, 01:30:24 PM »
No typo. Native will be closer, when iris is opened up. Talking about the RS540 at 130,000:1 and the RS2000 at 80,000:1. Those numbers are with iris closed. When open, they will be considerably less.

Yeah. All these years I thought native meant wide open. I was talking to Chadb today on something else and he straightened me out; native is with the aperture closed down, and a lot less when opened up fully.

I learned something today. Something so basic, I should have known it long ago.

Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2018, 02:38:31 PM »
Yeah. All these years I thought native meant wide open. I was talking to Chadb today on something else and he straightened me out; native is with the aperture closed down, and a lot less when opened up fully.

I learned something today. Something so basic, I should have known it long ago.

Native can mean both wide open and closed. Most people referring to native contrast are usually referring to the maximum amount of contrast available and this usually is with the iris closed. However, native on/off contrast just refers to a peak white and black level measure compared against one another when the display is in a fixed position. For a projector that means nothing in the light path moves when measuring. So all irises and settings need to remain the same when taking your measurements. But this doesn't mean it has to be fully closed. It can be at any position and as long as it doesn't move when taking the measurements it's a native contrast measurement.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2018, 03:58:13 PM »
This might be a dumb question but I am debating between the RS2000 and RS3000. Now here is the maybe "dumb" question. My projector is mounted in a separate room and I built a box to put in the wall with some edmund optics glass. If I got with the RS3000 and the bigger lens, is the output from the projector via the lens somehow bigger? If that makes sense.

Do you really need the port glass ? How loud can it be with no glass ?

Here my RS4500 ( same lens ) -



And with the Panamorph Paladin DCR lens ( which did require some re - framing - well worth it ) -




An RS3000 might work just fine in your current setup. That window looks fairly big.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2018, 05:57:31 PM »
Native can mean both wide open and closed. Most people referring to native contrast are usually referring to the maximum amount of contrast available and this usually is with the iris closed. However, native on/off contrast just refers to a peak white and black level measure compared against one another when the display is in a fixed position. For a projector that means nothing in the light path moves when measuring. So all irises and settings need to remain the same when taking your measurements. But this doesn't mean it has to be fully closed. It can be at any position and as long as it doesn't move when taking the measurements it's a native contrast measurement.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2018, 12:44:03 PM »
This might be a dumb question but I am debating between the RS2000 and RS3000. Now here is the maybe "dumb" question. My projector is mounted in a separate room and I built a box to put in the wall with some edmund optics glass. If I got with the RS3000 and the bigger lens, is the output from the projector via the lens somehow bigger? If that makes sense.

Judging from the ring, it looks like the opening you have made is around 4.5" in height. A 100mm lens is 3.9" in height. Also the exit image will not use anywhere close to the full lens height, so as long as you can adjust the shelf height on the back, where the lens is centered, you should be fine.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2018, 09:54:13 PM »
Mike,

The JVC documentation lists 120/240V 50/60hz in the power-supply.

Do you know if these are doing voltage switching internally, i.e. If I had a US JVC here, it would be safe to plug into my 240V outlet?

Or, are they region specific power-supplies and each region model does indeed require 120v or 240v independently for eg?

I know some electronics are smart enough to switch on their own...
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2018, 07:12:23 AM »
I've heard that it's common in Japan to have voltage specific power supplies (ie 100 volts) to get people to stop exporting electronics but those units normally have their own Japan specific model number. I know Sony does this but I don't think JVC does. Simply put, it costs more to make manufacturer different SKU models and I don't think JVC is looking to do that. I would put good money on there being one power supply for all models and it does the voltage switching internally.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2018, 11:41:14 AM »
Mike,

The JVC documentation lists 120/240V 50/60hz in the power-supply.

Do you know if these are doing voltage switching internally, i.e. If I had a US JVC here, it would be safe to plug into my 240V outlet?

Or, are they region specific power-supplies and each region model does indeed require 120v or 240v independently for eg?

I know some electronics are smart enough to switch on their own...

We need to get ahold of the manuals on these projectors.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2018, 05:49:34 AM »
I ended up checking the bottom of my 9500, and it does indeed list 100-240v 50/60hz on the actual unit.

So, I would assume the US version is no different.

Interesting anyway. I dont think I would import one. Was just curious.

I think the NX9 over there is going to be FAR cheaper than here when street price is involved.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2018, 07:14:20 AM »
Mike,

The JVC documentation lists 120/240V 50/60hz in the power-supply.

Do you know if these are doing voltage switching internally, i.e. If I had a US JVC here, it would be safe to plug into my 240V outlet?

Or, are they region specific power-supplies and each region model does indeed require 120v or 240v independently for eg?

I know some electronics are smart enough to switch on their own...

In the past, they have always been universal power supplies, so all you had to do was have the correct power cord. I would assume that is unchanged.
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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2018, 08:51:16 AM »
I ended up checking the bottom of my 9500, and it does indeed list 100-240v 50/60hz on the actual unit.

So, I would assume the US version is no different.

Interesting anyway. I dont think I would import one. Was just curious.

I think the NX9 over there is going to be FAR cheaper than here when street price is involved.

That's always going to be the case. It seems the US gets some of the best pricing on these JVC models for some reason. Sony seems to be the opposite. They're cheaper in the EU than they are here by a decent margin. Lucky for most of us here in the US that want to buy JVCs instead of Sony models.

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Re: JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2018, 03:45:01 PM »
That's always going to be the case. It seems the US gets some of the best pricing on these JVC models for some reason. Sony seems to be the opposite. They're cheaper in the EU than they are here by a decent margin. Lucky for most of us here in the US that want to buy JVCs instead of Sony models.

It is not always the case in regards to Australia. In fact, never has been.

If I told you the USD street price of what an A Stock JVC 4500 was going for here you would be shocked. We have cheaper Sony's than the US by far too... same with the bulb JVC's.

This year though, I think that winning streak is coming to an end. At least in regards to the NX9. I think the N7 is going to be quite comparable, might slightly more.
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