JVC RS1000 / 2000 Anticipation Thread

[AVSMike]

I have not heard a date yet, but I suspect it will happen in January. As for preorders, they will be ending soon. We are getting close to being sold out on all three models.

[AVSMike]

RS3000 preorder ends tomorrow. RS1000 and RS2000 preorder ends Monday the 31st.

[Dylan Seeger]

Good news. I suppose this means you're expecting to receive these new projectors soon then.

[Dylan Seeger]

Do we have a new ETA? I read some dealers are starting to charge people's credit cards.

[AVSMike]

Do we have a new ETA? I read some dealers are starting to charge people's credit cards.

3000's are shipping first.

[YesAnotherTweet]

Do we have a new ETA? I read some dealers are starting to charge people's credit cards.

I got my RS3000 UPS shipment tracking this morning (ETA 1/9). Pre-ordered from Craig.

[AVSCraig]

Do we have a new ETA? I read some dealers are starting to charge people's credit cards.

Maybe the plan is RS3000's, RS2000's, RS1000's. Like 3.....2....1....Go  !!  Or not.

[Dylan Seeger]

Will you guys be reaching out to people who pre-ordered RS2000's soon? I haven't given my CC info yet.

[AVSCraig]

Will you guys be reaching out to people who pre-ordered RS2000's soon? I haven't given my CC info yet.

As soon as we hear they are arriving. That's not this week, but it should be soon.

[rob-houston]

Finally some activity over here!

Make sure Seegs gets a GOOD early one so we can get some good information!!

[AVSMike]

Will you guys be reaching out to people who pre-ordered RS2000's soon? I haven't given my CC info yet.

You welcome to call in anytime with it, but it will only be sitting there until the 2000's are ready.

[Dylan Seeger]

Finally some activity over here!

Make sure Seegs gets a GOOD early one so we can get some good information!!

I plan on doing a nice write up and posting some measurements too. It's been a while since I've been this excited for a projector launch!

[Dylan Seeger]

It's been fun reading through the anticipation thread on the other forum. Ekki defending his clearly out of focus images has given me a few laughs. He knows that JVC people are going to see these photos. If it were me, I'd purposefully make sure the JVC were in even better focus to help prove my point (if it were true) that there was some sort of deficiency in sharpness versus the competition. How can you show an issue properly when your photo is out of focus? He clearly hasn't done this and he wonders why people are claiming he has a bias towards Sony. If the JVC truly does have some sort of flaw why not help show it better by taking a photo that's in proper focus.

Interestingly enough, Ekki has only posted images of black text on a white background. This is the only way the Sony's can keep up with the JVCs in terms of resolution on screen. Once you throw color into the mix the Sony's cannot keep up. My plan is to take macro shots like the ones Ekki has posted (though in focus) and show people the kind of chroma/color resolution lost due to the issues that SXRD has trying to drive all 8.8 million pixels at once. I'm referring to the issues with posterization which robs the image of a TON of fine image detail. I will also provide the lossless PNG source image files for those who want to try it out for themselves or for those who don't believe me. I will prove once and for all that these native 4K JVCs are capable of more resolution on screen than the Sony's. While the Sony's may have 8.8 million physical pixels on screen, Sony cannot properly give all of these pixels discreet/unique color information for each frame flashed on screen which, as far as I'm concerned, means they are not true native 4K projectors. I haven't been able to do this before because with eshift you can't compare pixel to pixel between the two projectors as eshift can't map pixels on a 1:1 ratio when given a 4K source. Now we can.

I get that some people might see this as some sort of attack on Sony, but I feel that most JVC projector reviews and their owners openly talk about and discuss the issues with their JVC projectors in a very matter-of-fact way. Sony reviews and their owners seem to omit some of the more glaring issues with them. They get doubly offended compared to JVC owners when you bring these issues up and many seem to scoff at the very mention of them as if these issues weren't real. If Sony people acted like JVC people and just owned the issues with their projectors we'd all be a lot more civil towards one another. No projector is perfect, but it's healthy to discuss issues and have them out in the open. Interestingly enough, most of the glaring criticisms towards JVC projectors have been fixed over the years because owners/reviewers have been vocal about the problems. Sony hasn't fixed any of the glaring issues with their projector lineup. It makes me wonder if owners/reviewers attitude towards them (keeping them hush hush) hasn't played a role in this. If people were more open about these issues I'm sure Sony would have seen a dip in sales which would have forced them to fix the issues. So keep it up Sony fanboys...you're only hurting yourselves in the end.

[AVSCraig]

There aren't too many reviewers I trust to be consistent and impartial. Ekki isn't one of them. Those photos were a joke.

[Dylan Seeger]

Agreed, Craig. For a man who's used the word "objective" so many times lately in that thread, the one piece of evidence put forth (his photo of the NX9) doesn't objectively show anything. Why wasn't eshift turned off? Why wasn't the photo in focus? I know he claims he has no bias, but anyone who's spent time with JVC projectors knows that enabling eshift makes the image appear softer. Obviously a less than ideal focus from the lens will do the same thing and only snowball the image to look even less sharp.

The most interesting thing I've seen from that thread was when Arrow asked Ekki about his claims that the Sony's are capable of 50,000:1 and 80,000:1 on/off dynamic contrast. Kris measured roughly 20,000:1 on the 885ES. A far cry from 50,000:1 that Ekki somehow measured. Other reports show similar numbers to what Kris was reporting. And what was Ekki's response? I'm paraphrasing here but he said that it's not his fault that people don't know how to measure on/off contrast properly. Wow. Anyone who's ever calibrated knows measuring on/off contrast is one of the easier things to do and the results are normally repeatable as long as you have a decent meter and the black level isn't crazy dark. And with the Sony's limited contrast by comparison to the JVCs, that shouldn't be an issue.