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Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors

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Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« on: September 09, 2018, 04:10:02 PM »
New compatibility with Sony and JVC announced at CEDIA.

From Shawn Kelly of Panamorph -

I'm happy to announce and confirm that all new 4K/4096 cinema resolution projectors from Sony and JVC will include the full modes for using our Paladin and Paladin DCR lenses for 4K/4096 anamorphic cinemas. Sony VPL 4K projectors will include the same modes as in the VW885ES/VW760ES in the full line including VW295ES, VW695ES, VW885ES, VW995ES and VW5000ES. JVC 4K projectors will initially have an "Anamorphic C" mode for the Paladin DCR in the RS1000, RS2000, RS3000 and similar Procision models of NX5, NX7 and NX9. They will initially use the default "Anamorphic B" mode for 16:9 content with the fixed Paladin or Paladin DCR but will likely have a later firmware update for more accurate formatting of 16:9 content using the Paladin DCR lens.

Panamorph B-Stock lenses are currently available at a great price.

Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 08:28:25 PM »
For those curious as to what these lenses are for, they are used to take advantage of the full 4096 x 2160 pixel count of these projectors. You might be asking what makes these lenses different than Panamorph's other anamorphic lenses? With other anamorphic lenses you're meant to be using a 16 x 9 image (or in the case of these projectors only 3840 x 2160 pixels) to get proper image geometry for an anamorphic screen. These lenses allow you you to use all pixels and still get proper image geometry giving you as much brightness through the lens as possible. As no pixels are black.

These lenses do need a proper scaling mode which JVC and Sony projectors now include. Other scaling solutions through the likes of Lumagen and MadVR will also allow you to use these lenses and get proper image geometry on a scope screen.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 07:27:40 PM »
I have a Paladin DCR lens here at the house. I used it for about a month or so with the Sony 885ES I currently have in my room, and plan on reporting on its implementation with the Sony 995ES and JVC NX9 that I will be reviewing in the coming weeks.

One thing to keep in mind for Sony users. One of the biggest draws for this lens is its ability to give you quite a notable boost in light output. This is great for those with big screens that need the extra umph, but there can be a downside. In my setup I have a 140" diagonal 2.35:1 Studiotek 100 (1.0 gain screen). If I want to calibrate my SDR output to 16 fL (common standard for SDR calibration in home theaters) and use this lens, it is impossible. The 885ES cannot actually lower light output enough to make this work. I end up somewhere in the low to mid 20's for fLs. So you can run into a situation where you actually have more light than desired. This may not apply to all of Sony's models, or your particular setup, but it is something to consider.

With the upcoming JVC models, the upper two have dual iris systems, so they would be ideal candidates for those that want to control their light. The extra light will allow for more aggressive iris positions to maximize contrast while still getting the desired light output (depending on screen and desire). It can also be used to overcome the light loss of the wide color filter if that is something you want to use but are worried about light loss.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2018, 09:01:39 PM »
Yes, too bright for SDR content has been a problem with the 885. Some posters tried to say the problem was, people buying too small of a screen. The 885 is begging for a manual iris system. Would improve that projector tremendously.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2018, 09:05:02 PM »
My screen is over 10 ft wide, so I don't have a "small" screen. I also so some of those "posters" claim that the problem with the 885 was that it was too bright, despite earlier saying that people were just using the wrong screens.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 08:02:38 PM »
Ordered this lens from Mike today. Now just waiting for JVC to ship their new projectors. I'll be pairing with an RS-2000.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2018, 12:07:40 PM »
Great combination. It's going to look excellent!
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2019, 01:41:27 PM »
Anybody that is interested in the DCR lens, should be ordering, before end of this month. :) 
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2019, 02:48:28 PM »
Is the offer still standing?

What was / is the offer?

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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2019, 03:05:24 PM »
Is the offer still standing?

What was / is the offer?
There is a Power Buy coming in June. Call us for pricing. :)

Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2019, 10:53:28 AM »
Can i get some price list with shipping outside US to EU? I thinks this will be greate combination with my JVC N7...

Thanks

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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 01:33:17 PM »
JVC DCR combo deal. Call us for details.
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2020, 03:07:44 PM »
JVC DCR combo deal. Call us for details.
Quoting myself. Not sure I have ever done that. :)

Anyway, post is to let people know this deal ends on the 26th of this month (April)
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Re: Panamorph Paladin DCR Lens Compatibility with 2018 Projectors
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2020, 09:16:09 AM »
Just letting people know that there is a B-stock DCR lens available. These are rare. First one of these in over a year. Call us for details.
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