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Any CEDIA 2018 info?

Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« on: July 10, 2018, 09:18:13 PM »
2 months out so I know info is probably scarce or under NDA for now, but any hints about what we might see from CEDIA this fall? I feel like JVC has been making minor iterative type changes now for a few years and is kinda due for something a bit more. (Aside from, of course, the RS4500.) Epson too, a bit.

Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 10:17:11 PM »
I really want to see Epson or JVC bring something native 4K to the under $10,000 market this year.

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Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 07:54:45 AM »
They keep a total news blackout on this until Cedia, so other than vague leaks that may or may not be true, you have to wait. Do we need a countdown clock ?
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Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2018, 11:53:53 AM »
I've read a few rumors of a native 4K lamp based projector from JVC this year. I think this is the right move for JVC. I say this because Sony is already there at similar price points where the eshift lineup is. 4K is a better marketing term that will sell projectors than pretty much anything else from an average Joe standpoint.

I hope at least one model comes out to compete with the 385ES at around $8000. If JVC can do this while maintaining similar light output and contrast performance that the RS440 or RS540 can achieve than I think it will sell like hotcakes. For someone like me, 1-2 movies a week and that's it, I can't justify spending a premium for a laser light source when it doesn't really do a whole lot for image quality. So if keeping costs down means a lamp based unit I'm all in.

Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2018, 08:18:13 AM »
I guess it depends on what type of 4K lamp based unit JVC releases.  Either way, it will need to be aggressively priced and featured competitively to a respective Sony unit price/features.  Sony has that magical name appeal which for some people can bury away any sort of logic and reason...as we know from the other forum.  So, for example, if JVC releases something around $8,000 street price to compete against the 385ES, it will need to really have a leg up on Sony in some way to sell.  If the JVC say is only 10-15% better in some manner at the same price and same features, more people will just buy the Sony because it's Sony!
 

Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2018, 09:05:45 AM »
I've read a few rumors of a native 4K lamp based projector from JVC this year. I think this is the right move for JVC. I say this because Sony is already there at similar price points where the eshift lineup is. 4K is a better marketing term that will sell projectors than pretty much anything else from an average Joe standpoint.

I hope at least one model comes out to compete with the 385ES at around $8000. If JVC can do this while maintaining similar light output and contrast performance that the RS440 or RS540 can achieve than I think it will sell like hotcakes. For someone like me, 1-2 movies a week and that's it, I can't justify spending a premium for a laser light source when it doesn't really do a whole lot for image quality. So if keeping costs down means a lamp based unit I'm all in.

I agree, but the real question will be contrast. If JVC can do lamp based native 4k with RS540 levels of contrast and 385 price point, it will be a real winner of a projector. They would need a lot of them, because they would fly out the door.
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Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2018, 11:02:09 AM »
I'd even be happy with RS440 levels of contrast,  but I do hope RS540 levels of contrast.

Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2018, 08:32:00 PM »
I'd even be happy with RS440 levels of contrast,  but I do hope RS540 levels of contrast.

I agree, 440 contrast and a good dynamic dimming system. Would be pretty much what I got with my RS4500. Chadb measured my system at 24,000:1 native. Combine that with the dynamic dimming and you can see why I did not have a problem with the contrast on my 4500. :)
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Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2018, 01:00:06 PM »
At least JVC won't limit the hdmi to 13gps like Sony does in their 385 and 285 models and neuter the iris like in the 285 forcing you to the 385 if you want that feature.   :o

Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 01:01:04 PM »
I know Sony's unlikely to make a big move after a significant one last year with the 285/385, but as mentioned I also keep wondering what Epson is up to and if their initial steps into the LCoQ tech will be furthered to include laser iris action, higher lumens, a 4K design or other refinement. I haven't seen the LS10500 in action. I've seen a 285 and after having JVC blacks it was not quite good enough there for me.

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Re: Any CEDIA 2018 info?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 01:06:38 PM »
I know Sony's unlikely to make a big move after a significant one last year with the 285/385, but as mentioned I also keep wondering what Epson is up to and if their initial steps into the LCoQ tech will be furthered to include laser iris action, higher lumens, a 4K design or other refinement. I haven't seen the LS10500 in action. I've seen a 285 and after having JVC blacks it was not quite good enough there for me.

We asked last year, and Epson said native 4K chips were still too expensive to produce. And they wouldn't be bringing out true 4K projectors until the cost dropped. Maybe that is this year. Maybe not. I tend to go to Cedia with no expectations. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed !
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