What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017

[AVSCraig]

Sounds like the spring refresh on the current units. Not really enough to get me too excited, but any improvement is welcome for future buyers, of course.

[Dylan Seeger]

On the RS600 replacement, are you talking about the mild refresh that people have been talking about or what you expect to see at CEDIA 2017?

It was told to me that this is what's being announced at CEDIA 2017.

[AVSMike]

It was told to me that this is what's being announced at CEDIA 2017.

I will be surprised if that is what happens at CEDIA 2017. Basically then it would mean that JVC would be running a three year cycle with their projectors, because going from 150,000:1 to 160,000:1 is not going to make a difference. While adding lumens is always good, 200 is probably not going to be noticeable.

[AVSCraig]

I will be surprised if that is what happens at CEDIA 2017. Basically then it would mean that JVC would be running a three year cycle with their projectors, because going from 150,000:1 to 160,000:1 is not going to make a difference. While adding lumens is always good, 200 is probably not going to be noticeable.

Considering lamps can vary up to 10%, I bet you can find JVC projectors now that are nearly 200 lumens brighter ( and maybe dimmer ) than the current specification anyway !

[Dylan Seeger]

I will be surprised if that is what happens at CEDIA 2017. Basically then it would mean that JVC would be running a three year cycle with their projectors, because going from 150,000:1 to 160,000:1 is not going to make a difference. While adding lumens is always good, 200 is probably not going to be noticeable.

We'll see what happens, either way, I'm probably taking a year off. I'm going to wait until I can get my hands on a native 4K JVC under $10000, whether that be new or used.

[stanger89]

From what I was told the RS600 replacement will have 2000+ lumens and contrast is upgraded to 160000:1+ native. I have no idea what the light source is however. It was also suggested that these replacement models will be the last eshift models JVC makes.

Personally, I'll most likely skip this new generation if it's just a small bump in brightness and contrast. I don't even think a laser version with eshift will sway me to upgrade my RS500.

IF it's laser and Low Lag, that might be enough to get me to upgrade my RS600.  I'm not really all that interested in native 4K, especially if it means a major hit in contrast as it sounds like it might.  I've seen a few posts from folks saying they weren't impressed with the RS4500's contrast.

If I have to choose between native 4K and double or triple the contrast, I'll take the contrast.

[AVSCraig]

IF it's laser and Low Lag, that might be enough to get me to upgrade my RS600.  I'm not really all that interested in native 4K, especially if it means a major hit in contrast as it sounds like it might.  I've seen a few posts from folks saying they weren't impressed with the RS4500's contrast.

If I have to choose between native 4K and double or triple the contrast, I'll take the contrast.

It's really hard to judge the contrast on the RS4500 in a hotel room with limited source material. There wasn't anything that would even show a fade to black scene. And even though they had black material around the screen, the room is white. That said, Warcraft in 4K sure looked sharp and clear from an Oppo 203. I'd like to see 4K with my HDR - SDR BT.2020 conversion on it instead of HDR, to really see what's what.

[DavidHir]

Hey Craig,

Did you get any impression from talking to JVC about their plans for the 2018 units?

[AVSMike]

Hey Craig,

Did you get any impression from talking to JVC about their plans for the 2018 units?

I think they have to do something. I am hoping that laser gets added to the RS620 and maybe they bring out a 4K lamp based projector to fill the gap between the RS620 and the RS4500.

[DavidHir]

I think they have to do something. I am hoping that laser gets added to the RS620 and maybe they bring out a 4K lamp based projector to fill the gap between the RS620 and the RS4500.

That is my best guess.

The 4K lamp competes against the Sony 675ES (or replacement).  An RS620 laser is maybe the next logical step in its model and competes well against the Epson laser.

[AVSCraig]

Hey Craig,

Did you get any impression from talking to JVC about their plans for the 2018 units?

I asked this point blank and they said " I've told the factory that we need something new for Cedia this year ". JVC ( and really all the manufacturers ) play their cards very close to their chests. Don't play poker with them. 

[bmoney]

I asked this point blank and they said " I've told the factory that we need something new for Cedia this year ". JVC ( and really all the manufacturers ) play their cards very close to their chests. Don't play poker with them. 

pffft I play the man...not the cards lol

[AVSCraig]

pffft I play the man...not the cards lol

" The Man " wasn't going to talk about new projectors they may or might not release 8 months from now, while showing new projectors being released that very day. 

[bmoney]

" The Man " wasn't going to talk about new projectors they may or might not release 8 months from now, while showing new projectors being released that very day. 

it was a  joke

[stanger89]

I think they have to do something. I am hoping that laser gets added to the RS620 and maybe they bring out a 4K lamp based projector to fill the gap between the RS620 and the RS4500.

I'd be very happy with a Laser RS620.  Native 4K really isn't of much interest to me, I don't think I have the seating position, or eyesight (uncorrected is good, but not perfect) and I don't really think the content is there to make native vs e-Shift compelling.  But I've heard great things about the stability of the laser light sources (my RS600 flickers a decent bit). 

If I could upgrade to something with low lag, instant on/off, game mode, fixed HDR (just in case), and my RS600's six figure native contrast, I'd be pretty happy.