There was a lot of inconsistency in the optical coating so quality control was difficult for Da-lite. The was mostly when they switched to the 2.4 gain material. I went through 3 screens myself before I got a sample I was happy with. I think the attrition rate was so high that Da-Lite couldn't make a lot of money from them anymore and stopped selling it. I think there was an issue with supply too from China.
Unless you really really want/need a huge screen (12+ feet wide) I just don't see the appeal of a High Power screen or really any high gain (>1.3) material in 2018. With so many high brightness, high contrast projectors out there now at ridiculously low prices using a unity gain screen material, or any other non-intrusive screen, is the way to go. Image quality overall is so much better that way. I just can't see myself ever going back to a screen with texture, sheen, sparkles or any other inherent artifact. How does the Ultra-weave V6 material look? Better than the Enlightor 4K material?
Wouldn't the primary colors need to be filtered by a yellow notch filter? I don't see how that can happen with the yellow portion of the color wheel is fixed in position and never actually "filters" the primary colors. Brilliant color on most DLP units simply allows for color wheel segment overlap to occur. More mirror "on" time at the expense of color accuracy to boost brightness. Real brilliant color is rare. There have only been a handful of real RGB-RGBY color wheel DLP units released. Most of them were when Brilliant Color was first released and most were found in 1080p single chip DLP Sim2 units. When's the last time anyone had released a DLP unit with such a color wheel?What is Ruined's explanation at how this would work?
I'm pretty sure that Ruined thought that BC with a yellow segment on the colorwheel and a yellow notch filter did similar things, but they are complete opposites. One lets more yellow light through and one lets less yellow light through.There are 2 kinds like you say. Colors other than RGB on the colorwheel, and turning the mirrors on during the spoke time.It looks to me like the new laser 1528p+eShift (what some call 4K UHD) projectors have RGBY colorwheels and reports I've read are that they run at 2x.Sometimes it is hard for me to tell if Ruined is mostly clueless, or if he is just trying to keep from having to admit that he was wrong.He keeps repeating that BC gives you more light for HDR, but ignores the part where I point out that only some colors get brighter. Adding a yellow segment on a colorwheel and then tightening up the filters for R and G actually results in less light for R and G. It helps push the R and G on the triangle out further, but at the expense of luminance for them.He seems to have completely ignored the part where I mentioned that HDR isn't just about making white and yellow brighter, HDR is supposed to have brighter R, G, and B also. That isn't to say that these BC techniques might not be worth it overall, but they come at a cost.--Darin
The way BC can expand gamut, is you can put in a yellow segment that's more saturated than the result of the green and red. Of course you end up with a quadrilateral shaped gamut instead of a triangle.And of course yellow really isn't where gamut needs to be expanded. Most of the new area that DCI P3 and Rec.2020 bring are in the green and cyan areas.It seems the new laser "4K" DLPs are using RGBY wheels. At least the Optoma is. For some reason I thought the Acer was RGBRGB but now people are saying it's RGBY too.He doen't have an explanation, it's just the typical, anything DLP does is better. Or more accurately anything Optoma does is better. Like how low contrast is better because it's more like the theater.Funny, see I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt... I was assuming he meant that the yellow segment could pull yellow out (more saturated), but you might be right, he might think that RGBY is the same as RGB+Yellow Notch. Or, more likely, he doesn't have a clue and will just say anything that his favored DLP projector does is better. It will be funny when the UHZ75 comes out next year with a 4x RGBRGB wheel and his story changes completely.I think it's both, I think he's clueless, and will say anything to make DLP sound good/viable. When you can tease out of him what he really thinks, his personal position seems to be that the only things that matter are Laser, Brightness, and Sharpness, and probably in that order. He seems to really think his priorities are "right" and that everyone else should follow them, and he'll say anything to make those priorities seem best/right.......
.....In "defense" of Dave, who seems to be the sole basis for Runt's whole treatise on BC, my guess is this:The UHZ65 isn't terribly bright when calibrated correctly, both the UHD60 and UHD65 lost about 2/3 of their rated brightness when calibrated and were under 1000 Lumens. That's OK for SDR, but not near enough for HDR. So my guess is, Dave (who seems to calibrate mainly by eyerometer) found that the extra brightness with BC on was more beneficial for HDR than the negative of having the colors out of balance.
" calibrate mainly by eyerometer " - I like it. Although I think the correct term is " Eye - O - Meter " .
I inquired about the infractions and was told:"Your relationship with any manufacturer would be irrelevant on AVS Forum as you are always to be posting as an individual, not a seller. Best to not discuss products you sell at all in that case."So How do I post anything at all. I guess I could go into the TCL TV threads and post or the DIY speaker area.
I assume Cleveland Plasma, Dave Harper and the others have all paid the protection money so they can post about stuff they sell?.....
......I mean Dave's all over the Optoma threads talking about his distributors/availability, and his clients.
Does seem to be a little one sided, doesn't it. Supposedly you can get infractions from people complaining about your post. About a year and a half ago, I complained about a post with blatantly low street pricing. I received a warning that I could get an infraction for making the complaint. They said it was not against the rules. Ever since then, I have not touched the complaint button.
this aimed at you guys?? this is in classifieds stickied.....i get a kick out of "our members are treated this way" lol hat a joke"It has come to our attention that despite agreeing to our forum rules when joining, several members have been violating these by trolling the site for potential customers preying on our membership for a buck.The ONLY avenue for self-promotion on this site is with paid advertising through VerticalScope. Report all veiled attempts at marketing such as "PM/email/call me", "I sell these" and "see my site" to staff for immediate action. As always, this includes both public posts as well as private messages. We've had to terminate accounts in the last year and will continue to do so moving forward. Our members are not to treated this way. AVS Forum is and always has been a safe place for people to share information without the burden of used car salesmen tactics."
I did not know where to Post this so I posted it where I post the most in forums.Lately there has been quite heavy discussions at AVSForum regarding the Sony degradation and lately the JVC not firmware upgrading the RSx00 line. This has resulted in heavy Sony Vs JVC discussions that are simply stupid. I personally have tried to keep it professional and scientific, but it has not been easy. Today I got a lifetime ban on that forum and I see that the other members in the discussion that have been much more personal and insulting than me is still able to post. I find that to be highly unfair and the mods are not treating members equally. Do you guys agree with me? I know some dont and are just happy to get rid of me, but I think when I was banned others should have been to.If the mods find this tread unfit for this forum they can just delete it.
I agree with you. I had a temp ban last year for posting that my price for some for sale items had been lowered. When the ban expired I told them to delete the account, and a few months later I created a new account since it had been deleted. Today I went in and saw that the thread had not been updated, and asked if a mod could please update the thread since the original poster bad been banned. The response was another person had updated it today. I responded it had not been updated, and that I was the original poster. The response was i must be a Trump supporter, and you are banned. What a professional response. I then receive a email that said I was banned for having multiple accounts! If I had 2 accounts then it was their fault as I had requested them to delete my account.
You got banned for the exact same thing I was banned for, I told them to delete my account went back on there about a month later set up a new account posted about three times the next day I was permanently banned for having multiple accounts, I've had infractions for the stupidest things and there's no warning no Second Chance basically the mod tell you to bad live with it, and if you ask a question you better phrase it just right or you better not miss spell a single word or the grammar police will come out and won't be just one of them that attacks you it'll be a half a dozen of them they're like little children over there
Eh. They have a bot that reads ip addresses and insta bans multiple accounts
This is my first visit to the therapy session of Banned From AVSFORUM anonymous, Id just like to sit around listen, thank you.I had posted this earlier not knowing you guys were here:https://twitter.com/CINERAMAX/status/995670637250338816LOL!
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