Banned at AVSForum

[rob-houston]

It should also be remembered what the purpose of the avscience website is.

"Home theater discussion topics relating to equipment purchases, construction questions, setup, and support from the AVS community."

[AVSMike]

I don't have a problem with people saying, what (insert name here) is saying is not correct or is misinformation. Especially if the poster provides the proof or if it is something that is obviously so wrong that most everyone else in the thread knows it. Sometimes it is just someone misinformed, but often times it is not. Often times it is someone trying to justify their purchase. or they are a fanboy of a brand or technology and blindly defend it against all comers.

I am a fanboy of LCOS. Right now, I think that is the best projector technology. But I am not the type of fanboy that is going to defend it no matter what. For example if DLP ever gives us high contrast, DLP motion and high brightness, DLP will become my favorite projection method. Just like it used to be my favorite years ago. I am for whatever gives me the best image at a price that I can afford.

[Javs]

I do agree that indefensible personal insults should be reconsidered, I don't believe I have done such things in this thread, I have commented on attitudes though, that's a very different thing.

I have never once personally attacked a forum member here, or on the other forum. I have argued with plenty about straight facts though, and misinformation, and other than that, with one particular person I had enough of the utter rudeness and condescension towards myself and every other person that ever asks them a question that is below his 'intelligence and competency' level.

If you cannot talk to people on a forum with the same manner of respect across all knowledge levels, you don't belong on a forum, I couldn't care less who you are or how much knowledge you have. Its completely unacceptable.

There is genuinely something wrong when I read a comment by a user, and I actually think to myself, wow, I really hope they don't treat their kids like that, because its frankly unacceptable to talk to human beings that way when at least one person has the good intentions of trying to collaborate or gain information on something only to be shot down and talked down to needlessly.

Andreas is right, the discussion here is just venting for those who have been building frustration over there for some time... Pretty soon this thread will fade, and the discussions here will get more interesting and on point.

[JoeRod]

when things gets personal it always bring in emotions and logic or reational behavior ends.. different people handles that differently, i have no issue picking on a product or a specifik forum, but i dont like the wich hunt that seems to acellerate pointing out specifik people, the acusations might be right or wrong, but a forum like this is not a justice system, so no justice will be found, and there is to many personal feelings and interests involved to let stuff like that continue.. It will simply take the forum with it down.

In the end this forum will be reduced to the place where the loosers hang out to bitch about people they dont like, ill hate to see that happen..

You may as well save your breath. These guys don’t care which is why they are over here venting their frustrations. This “thread” is great entertainment. I actually opened up with a friendly post only to be hit with where’s the ignore button questions. Which is fine but that is one of the reasons why this forum will never be taken seriously. It’s an obvious theme here with all the banned people. Same story, same reasons same type of person... And brand has absolutely nothing to do with it!

[AVSMike]

You may as well save your breath. These guys don’t care which is why they are over here venting their frustrations. This “thread” is great entertainment. I actually opened up with a friendly post only to be hit with where’s the ignore button questions. Which is fine but that is one of the reasons why this forum will never be taken seriously. It’s an obvious theme here with all the banned people. Same story, same reasons same type of person... And brand has absolutely nothing to do with it!

Have to call BS on that statement, because I have seen that same comment ("where is the ignore button") on AVSF and many other forums. So using your logic AVSF and pretty much every other forum will never be taken seriously.

Joe, you say with you brand does not have anything to do with it, but let me ask you a question. When was the last time you reviewed a projector that was not a Sony. You are a Sony fan. Nothing wrong with that, unless you try to come off as being neutral. Anybody that says the 885 throws a better image than the RS4500 is either a fanboy or has not had enough experience with both projectors. The 4500 is brighter, can be set up to have higher contrast and has a better lens. Now there certainly are reasons to pick an 885 over a 4500, but image quality is not one of them. And this is no knock on the 885, because it is a good projector and it does throw a very nice image. I admit, I certainly would be tempted,because it is cheaper than a new 4500.

Also did you come over here to contribute or only because "This “thread” is great entertainment." If here to contribute, you are welcome.

[bmoney]

You may as well save your breath. These guys don’t care which is why they are over here venting their frustrations. This “thread” is great entertainment. I actually opened up with a friendly post only to be hit with where’s the ignore button questions. Which is fine but that is one of the reasons why this forum will never be taken seriously. It’s an obvious theme here with all the banned people. Same story, same reasons same type of person... And brand has absolutely nothing to do with it!

yet your here....and posting...hmmmm

your entire statement is doing exactly what your complaining about

[Baseball0618]

You may as well save your breath. These guys don’t care which is why they are over here venting their frustrations. This “thread” is great entertainment. I actually opened up with a friendly post only to be hit with where’s the ignore button questions. Which is fine but that is one of the reasons why this forum will never be taken seriously. It’s an obvious theme here with all the banned people. Same story, same reasons same type of person... And brand has absolutely nothing to do with it!

Your post was not friendly at all, it is layered with passive aggressive overtones which is your MO.   You are one of, if not, the most biased fourm posters that I have ever seen and that is fine to prefer one brand over the other, but when you and others whom are clearly biased spew false information to discredit a brand you don't prefer it just comes off as ignorance to people who know what's what.  This is clearly preferred and encouraged over there so it's a nice fit for you.  Enjoy the circus. 

[Andreas21]

So this is where the gang is all hanging out? I actually miss our dust-ups. Seegs, Andreas, Kris, etc... And I don’t mind everyone talking about me. I am excited I was included in some of the discussions here. I do find it interesting that the majority here are jvc owners. That is an odd trend. Anyway, I won’t jump in here on my first post and start a war... I just wanted to say Happy New Year to everyone and yes I do miss you all...

Carry on...

Yes, this was Joerods friendly post...

[SOWK]

Sony is the best....


JVC Sucks....


Discuss....



*Joerod is such a Sony Fanboy that I told him I would do an even trade of my X790 for his 885ES and he said NO!!!!*

 

[JoeRod]

I have no problem owning a JVC projector but you have to admit besides the 4500 the past few years they have all been 1080p with eShit. No thank you. I want 4K. And what did jvc do again? In 2018 besides the 4500 they release all new rebadged 1080p models. Seriously?

And for the record I have absolutely no issue owning a Z1. Mike, I would even buy one from you. Craig too.

And I stand by my statement. This thread is awesome entertainment. And I only read Sowk and Mike’s comments. I chose to ignore the others on my own.

[DavidHir]

I have no problem owning a JVC projector but you have to admit besides the 4500 the past few years they have all been 1080p with eShit. No thank you. I want 4K. And what did jvc do again? In 2018 besides the 4500 they release all new rebadged 1080p models. Seriously?

And for the record I have absolutely no issue owning a Z1. Mike, I would even buy one from you. Craig too.

And I stand by my statement. This thread is awesome entertainment. And I only read Sowk and Mike’s comments. I chose to ignore the others on my own.

Well look at it this way: eShift has to be decent "sh*t" if people couldn't tell the difference in A/B comparisons on real content between the JVC and Sony 385 at John S's recent shootout...or it just says something about Sony not optimizing 4K with their cheap plastic lens and questionable processing with their notorious overpricing.  Keeping fingers crossed for new Sony owners their panels don't degrade either - glad I am not a gambler.

[AVSMike]

Sony is the best....


JVC Sucks....


Discuss....


*Joerod is such a Sony Fanboy that I told him I would do an even trade of my X790 for his 885ES and he said NO!!!!*

 

Past up a real opportunity there didn't he. To keep in the same spirit, I will trade you an RS15 for your X790.

[AVSMike]

I have no problem owning a JVC projector but you have to admit besides the 4500 the past few years they have all been 1080p with eShit. No thank you. I want 4K. And what did jvc do again? In 2018 besides the 4500 they release all new rebadged 1080p models. Seriously?

And for the record I have absolutely no issue owning a Z1. Mike, I would even buy one from you. Craig too.

And I stand by my statement. This thread is awesome entertainment. And I only read Sowk and Mike’s comments. I chose to ignore the others on my own.

Yep, for those that want native 4K, your options are limited in the JVC line up. At some point that is going to have to change. I can't imagine JVC and Epson conceding the 4K market completely (under 35K MSRP for JVC) to Sony.

[Dylan Seeger]

Sorry JoeRod, your antics aren't going to work here. You also have no one to complain to when the conversation isn't going your way. No mods to cry to when the JVC folks are spouting too many facts.

I want 4K too, but I don't want a SXRD 4K projector plagued with banding, posterization and with the potential for irreversible contrast loss, gamma droop and brightness loss through panel degradation. Sorry Sony, I've given you a chance with a 1000ES, 1100ES, 665ES and a 285ES. All of these models have the aforementioned problems. The first two issues take away enough digital resolution on the panel level that all but removes 95% of the advantage in resolution these projectors could have. If you check out the recent shootout held in Colorado you'll hear everyone there sharing the same experience that I've had for the last several years. The eshift models look equal to the Sony 4K models in terms of image detail and sharpness. They also mentioned that the RS4500 was CLEARLY a step ahead of all the other projectors there in terms of image detail, including the Sony 4Ks, and that's no surprise because the RS4500 is a 4K projector that isn't plagued with image artifacts that take away digital resolution like all Sony 4K models have.

[bmoney]

Does anyone have any settings for an rs600 for 4K Blu-rays without HDR?