Banned at AVSForum

[AVSCraig]

I hope that's not true! 

Oh I can tell you it is true. If I link this discussion site in my Pm's to people over there, they will give me an infraction. And  they have. It's like having the NSA watching you ! 

[stanger89]

I inquired about the infractions and was told:

"Your relationship with any manufacturer would be irrelevant on AVS Forum as you are always to be posting as an individual, not a seller. Best to not discuss products you sell at all in that case."

So How do I post anything at all. I guess I could go into the TCL TV threads and post or the DIY speaker area.

I assume Cleveland Plasma, Dave Harper and the others have all paid the protection money so they can post about stuff they sell?

I mean Dave's all over the Optoma threads talking about his distributors/availability, and his clients.

[AVSMike]

I assume Cleveland Plasma, Dave Harper and the others have all paid the protection money so they can post about stuff they sell?

I mean Dave's all over the Optoma threads talking about his distributors/availability, and his clients.

Does seem to be a little one sided, doesn't it. Supposedly you can get infractions from people complaining about your post. About a year and a half ago, I complained about a post with blatantly low street pricing. I received a warning that I could get an infraction for making the complaint. They said it was not against the rules. Ever since then, I have not touched the complaint button.

[DavidHir]

Lee Weber, one of the mods, has a store in Boston I believe.

[woofer]

Apparently not on AVSF.

Yes, they are definitely NOT private.. 

[stanger89]

Yes, they are definitely NOT private.. 

FWIW, I don't really expect PMs to be truly private on a forum.  But there's just something wrong about automatically scanning every PM for keywords/phrases, or worse, what appears to be going on there, mods/admins actually reading every PM from a select group of individuals just for justification to ban them.  That's just terrible.

[Tom Bley]

Lee Weber, one of the mods, has a store in Boston I believe.

Yeah, AVS carries his speakers.  They remind me of Triad.  Mike G posted them on this forum.

It's Next Level Acoustics.

[BlackRiderX]

Hi guys. I finally joined up on here when I read the info on the email that was sent out today. I thought I was the only one who had a bad experience with a mod over there lately.

Sometime during the last year, I want to say last spring, I got an infraction and email claiming I had two accounts. They took it upon themselves to delete the one I have used since the site opened, and left me with a second account that was barely used. I was not sure what was going on and did not remember having any other accounts. Perhaps it was someone else in my house, or maybe I had a different account back in the day. I honestly did not remember, but I sent a very nice email to the mod asking if there was anyway they could reinstate the account I always used and had history with, instead of the barely used account. I got a nasty email back threatening to ban me in response.

I pretty much gave up on that forum, save for when I needed to buy my JVC from Craig.

[Andreas21]

I assume Cleveland Plasma, Dave Harper and the others have all paid the protection money so they can post about stuff they sell?

I mean Dave's all over the Optoma threads talking about his distributors/availability, and his clients.

Yes, and ccool96, he is pushing the Sony brand for all it is worth. Does it say he is a Sony dealer in his signature? No... A dealer should not be able to post like ccool96 in my opinion.

I think it is very bad the way they are treating their users differently at the other forum.

[AVSCraig]

Hi guys. I finally joined up on here when I read the info on the email that was sent out today. I thought I was the only one who had a bad experience with a mod over there lately.

Sometime during the last year, I want to say last spring, I got an infraction and email claiming I had two accounts. They took it upon themselves to delete the one I have used since the site opened, and left me with a second account that was barely used. I was not sure what was going on and did not remember having any other accounts. Perhaps it was someone else in my house, or maybe I had a different account back in the day. I honestly did not remember, but I sent a very nice email to the mod asking if there was anyway they could reinstate the account I always used and had history with, instead of the barely used account. I got a nasty email back threatening to ban me in response.

I pretty much gave up on that forum, save for when I needed to buy my JVC from Craig.

That's pretty sad. Let's get this forum more active and we won't have to worry what they do over there. And you know where I'm at now ( here ) !! 

[Tom Bley]

Hi guys. I finally joined up on here when I read the info on the email that was sent out today. I thought I was the only one who had a bad experience with a mod over there lately.

Sometime during the last year, I want to say last spring, I got an infraction and email claiming I had two accounts. They took it upon themselves to delete the one I have used since the site opened, and left me with a second account that was barely used. I was not sure what was going on and did not remember having any other accounts. Perhaps it was someone else in my house, or maybe I had a different account back in the day. I honestly did not remember, but I sent a very nice email to the mod asking if there was anyway they could reinstate the account I always used and had history with, instead of the barely used account. I got a nasty email back threatening to ban me in response.

I pretty much gave up on that forum, save for when I needed to buy my JVC from Craig.

Wow, that's a real shame!  If they play games with me like that I'm telling them where to go and they can ban me.  After the things I've heard today I would rather spend most of my time on this forum.

[Tom Bley]

uh oh!  Sony fanyboy alert! lol   

[Ccool96]

Yes, and ccool96, he is pushing the Sony brand for all it is worth. Does it say he is a Sony dealer in his signature? No... A dealer should not be able to post like ccool96 in my opinion.

I think it is very bad the way they are treating their users differently at the other forum.

I can't help but comment, since you seem desperate to talk about me. Have you ever taken the time to read all of my post? Clearly not. I hate that you have been banned, and you are having some sort of pity party, but I didn't have anything to do with you being banned.

Actually if you look at my post, just recently I said how ridiculous it is that so many good people are being banned. And the AVS will regret it when everyone there is gone.

But please elaborate on how I push Sony?? Do I like Sony projectors, Yes! Do I personally own them and use them, Yes. Do i think they have issues, absolutely!

I also own or have owned multiple JVC projectors, RS1, RS2, RS4810, RS600, and RS4500. I praised the RS600 for almost a solid year, for how great it was even compared to my Sony 5000ES, especially considering the cost difference.

I guess you were fine with my post, as long as they favored JVC?

And I don't push any product on AVS. I don't ever write "PM me or Call me" In my 10+ years on AVS I have only sold a handful of items.

I am on AVS, because I have a passion for AV, not because I need the money. I have been financially secure since the day I was born. I have befriended a small group of AVS guys over the years, and I have worked with that small group whenever approached, but thats really not the issue at hand.

But so you don't look and sound uneducated on the facts, I suggest you go back and read thru my 1000+ post. I have no Sony agenda. I have had many Sony projectors, many JVC projectors, many DPI and Sim2 projectors, and Barco projectors. I have no loyalty to any one brand. And I try to buy units that best fit my install.

But by all means feel free to continue to talk about how "I push Sony for all its worth". If you would even read back just a little ways you would see where I spent a month bashing Sony over a bad firmware they sent out for 5000ES projectors, which bricked many units. And how horrible and slow their response was to that issue. Oh, and that I have said numerous times that the dynamic laser dimming on the 885, is just flat out broken and doesn't work. Yep, thats a way to push products!

I have come to understand that Mike is emailing all his clients saying how he is being targeted at AVS for selling products, but again that has nothing to do with me.

But by all means, continue.....

[Dylan Seeger]

To be fair, I've talked to Chris before via email and PM at AVS (before I was banned) and he was very candid and honest about answering questions I had about the 5000ES. The questions were specifically about issues that previous 4k SXRD models had and if they were still there on the 5000ES. He more or less confirmed that they were still there to some degree. That's the complete opposite with some other members over there who knowingly lie and defend Sony simply because they want to protect the brand image of the projector brand they own.

[Tom Bley]

I have no problems with Chris.  He used to be very active in the JVC RS-500/600 thread.