Banned at AVSForum

[AVSCraig]

Would it be possible to rename or modify the title of this thread to reflect the projector dialogue? There is a lot of useful, interesting discussion but it is lost under the title "Banned at AVSForum"...

IMO! - Don

How about " As The Color Wheel Turns - A Projector Soap Opera " .   

[Andreas21]

Would it be possible to rename or modify the title of this thread to reflect the projector dialogue? There is a lot of useful, interesting discussion but it is lost under the title "Banned at AVSForum"...

IMO! - Don

I started this tread in frustration over being unfairly banned (now I see it as a blessing) for life at the other forum, and even if the tread has derailed into other discussions (like most treads do) it it still mostly about the reason so I dont see the point in modify the title.

[AVSMike]

Would it be possible to rename or modify the title of this thread to reflect the projector dialogue? There is a lot of useful, interesting discussion but it is lost under the title "Banned at AVSForum"...

IMO! - Don

What would we call it? Might be better if we would make the projector posts in the projector threads. Might help jump start some of them.

[stanger89]

What would we call it?

AVSForum Anonymous?

[Andreas21]

The last post of Roxiedog13 simply shows his complete ignorance and how completely clueless he is.

Roxiedog13 wrote in the Sony 885 owners tread.
Quote:
Actually ,I totally disagree. I wouldn't buy a panel van to drive to work alone and then expect it to yield the same efficiency as a compact car. Product are made to work in a given range, outside that range there will be compromises . Any salesmen that recommends a panel van to their customer when a econobox is a perfect fit, cheaper, and absolutely more efficient is doing the customer a disservice . Expecting the panel van to operate efficiently is unrealistic .

The compromise you refer to sounds like every new design coming . The focus is on increased detail it would seem , and all manufacturers are headed in the same direction. Sharpness, detail , motion and color are improving, native contrast is not the priority any longer, I wonder why ? Quote end. LOL

[Baseball0618]

The last post of Roxiedog13 simply shows his complete ignorance and how completely clueless he is.

Roxiedog13 wrote in the Sony 885 owners tread.
Quote:
Actually ,I totally disagree. I wouldn't buy a panel van to drive to work alone and then expect it to yield the same efficiency as a compact car. Product are made to work in a given range, outside that range there will be compromises . Any salesmen that recommends a panel van to their customer when a econobox is a perfect fit, cheaper, and absolutely more efficient is doing the customer a disservice . Expecting the panel van to operate efficiently is unrealistic .

The compromise you refer to sounds like every new design coming . The focus is on increased detail it would seem , and all manufacturers are headed in the same direction. Sharpness, detail , motion and color are improving, native contrast is not the priority any longer, I wonder why ? Quote end. LOL

I don't know half of what most of you guys and others know but this guy takes the word moron to a new level!

[stanger89]

...native contrast is not the priority any longer, I wonder why ? Quote end. LOL

Probably because they can't reasonably do anything to improve it.

Would be fun to see these "contrast denier"s comments if their preferred brand came out with a game-changing improvement in contrast.  I'm sure they'd all say contrast is the most important thing ever, whatever their adopted children do well is always the most important thing in the world, and everything else is always irrelevant with these guys.

[darinp]

The last post of Roxiedog13 simply shows his complete ignorance and how completely clueless he is.

He's so clueless that he claims he wasn't talking about the iris and has no idea about it, yet the post he claimed to disagree with was clearly about the lack of manual control of an iris that is already in the projector. R & R over there would probably make the best of friends.

--Darin

[Andreas21]

The way ccool96 defends Sony in the 885 tread is simply pathetic, he should be neutral as he is claiming to be a dealer of many projector brands. But it is not difficult to se he is simply a Sony fanboy.

[ericglo]

The way ccool96 defends Sony in the 885 tread is simply pathetic, he should be neutral as he is claiming to be a dealer of many projector brands. But it is not difficult to se he is simply a Sony fanboy.

I haven't been able to figure him out.

The last post of Roxiedog13 simply shows his complete ignorance and how completely clueless he is.

Roxiedog13 wrote in the Sony 885 owners tread.
Quote:
Actually ,I totally disagree. I wouldn't buy a panel van to drive to work alone and then expect it to yield the same efficiency as a compact car. Product are made to work in a given range, outside that range there will be compromises . Any salesmen that recommends a panel van to their customer when a econobox is a perfect fit, cheaper, and absolutely more efficient is doing the customer a disservice . Expecting the panel van to operate efficiently is unrealistic .

The compromise you refer to sounds like every new design coming . The focus is on increased detail it would seem , and all manufacturers are headed in the same direction. Sharpness, detail , motion and color are improving, native contrast is not the priority any longer, I wonder why ? Quote end. LOL

I don't even understand how this is even close to an analogy about projectors. Is the Sony a panel van or an econobox?

[DonH58]

What would we call it? Might be better if we would make the projector posts in the projector threads. Might help jump start some of them.

I understand how the thread changed focus, just felt a title enhancement would help the info here not get lost. I came from AVSForum and am interested in projectors but not in the market at the moment.

Maybe "Banned at AVSForum/4K Projector Talks"?

Not a big deal to me except someone coming here to research projectors will have no idea to look for this thread and may ironically be a victim of whatever misinformation is on AVSForum.

[AVSMike]

I guess I can put it back on subject. I do not know what I can and can't post on AVSF and not get an infraction. I got three points for this post:

I will tell you that anyone saying the Sony is sharper is being biased or did not notice ringing from RC being turned up. The Sony 885 is a fantastic projector, but it does not quite have the sharpness of the JVC 4500. The advantages of the Sony are: size, weight, noise level and price.

Added
Maybe I took this wrong and you are talking about the lamp based JVC vs the native 4K Sony? If so, I agree the Native 4K is sharper than the E-shift JVC's, but they are pretty close and will be hard to tell a difference with video content. Just like they are close with motion, but the edge goes to the Sony.

[Stereodude]

FWIW, I mentioned to Scott W. and Mark H. in person today when I ran into them at CES that AVSForum has turned into a complete joke with the wrong people being banned and what not simply for posting facts and correcting misinformation.  Mark seemed aware of it and thanked me for bringing it to the forefront of his mind, but Scott wasn't aware.  They thanked me for the feedback and said they would discuss it with others.  No idea if anything will change, but I tried to do my part.

[Javs]

I guess I can put it back on subject. I do not know what I can and can't post on AVSF and not get an infraction. I got three points for this post:

I will tell you that anyone saying the Sony is sharper is being biased or did not notice ringing from RC being turned up. The Sony 885 is a fantastic projector, but it does not quite have the sharpness of the JVC 4500. The advantages of the Sony are: size, weight, noise level and price.

Added
Maybe I took this wrong and you are talking about the lamp based JVC vs the native 4K Sony? If so, I agree the Native 4K is sharper than the E-shift JVC's, but they are pretty close and will be hard to tell a difference with video content. Just like they are close with motion, but the edge goes to the Sony.

That is ridiculous, did this happen today or earlier? I dont remember seeing that post.

[Javs]

FWIW, I mentioned to Scott W. and Mark H. in person today when I ran into them at CES that AVSForum has turned into a complete joke with the wrong people being banned and what not simply for posting facts and correcting misinformation.  Mark seemed aware of it and thanked me for bringing it to the forefront of his mind, but Scott wasn't aware.  They thanked me for the feedback and said they would discuss it with others.  No idea if anything will change, but I tried to do my part.

Good stuff, thanks.