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Barry

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New on wall speakers
« on: July 07, 2019, 10:01:35 PM »
in our upstairs smaller room we have a nice home theatre set up. We have a Marantz 7011 processor, but the speakers are in wall and very old. Older than DTS and DD True Hd.

I would like to get a set of on the wall speakers, rather than in wall speakers, to replace them! Three questions.
1.I am assuming that on wall speakers will sound better than in wall.  Generally is is that the case? 
2. Would there be a problem just putting on wall on top of the in wall therefore not requiring major surgery.
3. I like Revel, but do you recommend any brand? I also like Svs. A few years ago I got the subwoofer that David recommended and it works perfectly. I’ve always gotten good advice here.
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 10:12:10 PM »
in our upstairs smaller room we have a nice home theatre set up. We have a Marantz 7011 processor, but the speakers are in wall and very old. Older than DTS and DD True Hd.

I would like to get a set of on the wall speakers, rather than in wall speakers, to replace them! Three questions.
1.I am assuming that on wall speakers will sound better than in wall.  Generally is is that the case?
2. Would there be a problem just putting on wall on top of the in wall therefore not requiring major surgery.
3. I like Revel, but do you recommend any brand? I also like Svs. A few years ago I got the subwoofer that David recommended and it works perfectly. I’ve always gotten good advice here.
Barry,

A lot of questions to ask. First, budget? Second, when you say "on wall," do you mean mounted on the wall or could you put up a shelf? Finally, what use are the speakers? Movies or music?
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Barry

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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 09:09:50 AM »
Thanks David.

I do not want the speakers on shelves, that would not work out well in this room. So they would be speakers attached to the walls. We will be using them for movies, TV shows and sporting events. I would like speakers that would last 15 to 20 years so I don’t know what price range to give you. Perhaps $500 each? IP are even a little bit more if I got something much better.
Krell 707 3D; Krell 400e (center) 600e; S-1500 (rear); Panasonic 9000 4k player; Revel speakers: Salon 2, Voice 2; W990; SVS subs SB-13 Ultras; JVC DLA-RS3000; Stuart StudioTek100; Krell Cipher; Day Sequerra FM Reference: VPI 19 Mark 4 & SME 309 & Audioquest 404i & Krell KPE

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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 09:16:24 AM »
Thanks David.

I do not want the speakers on shelves, that would not work out well in this room. So they would be speakers attached to the walls. We will be using them for movies, TV shows and sporting events. I would like speakers that would last 15 to 20 years so I don’t know what price range to give you. Perhaps $500 each? IP are even a little bit more if I got something much better.

Triad makes good onwall speakers - https://www.triadspeakers.com/product-tag/onwall/

M
artin Logan Motion Series speakers can be mounted on wall - 
https://www.martinlogan.com/en/category/our-speakers

S
VS and Def. Tech. too. 
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 09:17:21 AM »
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 09:33:28 AM »
The RBH is an excellent speaker, but a little above his $500 budget. If going a little above budget, I would also look at Monitor Audio SF1 and SF2. It is a nice 3-way speaker.
https://www.monitoraudio.com/en/product-ranges/soundframe/soundframe-1-on-wall/
https://www.monitoraudio.com/en/product-ranges/soundframe/soundframe-2-on-wall/
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 03:59:29 PM »
Looks like others have chimed in. Another option is to replace your inwalls with like-sized inwall speakers (or something slightly larger). All the wires are already run and it would be the "easiest" option. Both Craig and Mike are dealers and can hook you up with the options they listed. I'd give them a call and see what they have to say. 
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2019, 05:46:44 AM »
Looks like others have chimed in. Another option is to replace your inwalls with like-sized inwall speakers (or something slightly larger). All the wires are already run and it would be the "easiest" option. Both Craig and Mike are dealers and can hook you up with the options they listed. I'd give them a call and see what they have to say.
Yep. Would just need to know what you have or measure the size of the opening. Also let us know if it is a 2x4 or 2x6 wall.
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 08:05:01 AM »
Thanks David.

I do not want the speakers on shelves, that would not work out well in this room. So they would be speakers attached to the walls. We will be using them for movies, TV shows and sporting events. I would like speakers that would last 15 to 20 years so I don’t know what price range to give you. Perhaps $500 each? IP are even a little bit more if I got something much better.
M & K makes some nice on wall speakers too - https://mksound.com/products/950-series/mp950/

I
 really liked the M & K speakers I had for an in home demo ! :)
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 06:04:44 PM »
M & K makes some nice on wall speakers too - https://mksound.com/products/950-series/mp950/

I
really liked the M & K speakers I had for an in home demo ! :)
Well over his budget :)

I was sad when I had to send the S150 system back, although my vintage ones sound great too!
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 06:10:57 PM »
Well over his budget :)

I was sad when I had to send the S150 system back, although my vintage ones sound great too!
The 950's aren't much over it - 


" Perhaps $500 each? IP are even a little bit more if I got something much better. " 

I just priced them out yesterday. 
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 07:54:47 PM »
The 950's aren't much over it -


" Perhaps $500 each? IP are even a little bit more if I got something much better. "

I just priced them out yesterday.

The 950's sound pretty good too. 
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Barry

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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 10:20:58 PM »
If my budget is $1000?
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2019, 11:04:14 PM »
If my budget is $1000?
Per speaker?
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Re: New on wall speakers
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 05:50:02 AM »
If my budget is $1000?
Is your center channel speaker horizontal or vertical? Are you just wanting to look at on wall or do you also want to consider in wall? If in wall, what minimum size do they need to be?
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