Excellent. Take your time getting familiar with the setup. And make sure to download the latest firmware if it doesn't have it already !
Yes, purpose built HTPC with an RTX2070 graphics card. It's a holiday weekend here and I have some plans with family, so I won't be able to set up the Lumagen 100% until next week.
You talk like contrast is nothing. You know that ISF does not share that opinion. Every year, after CEDIA someone always asks what was the best looking projector at CEDIA. For the last several years the answer has been an LCOS projector. CEDIA has DLP's there that are brighter, higher contrast and if cost is any indicator, better lenses and yet every year, they do not get the nod for best image at the show. Where DLP does get the nod is in light output. The LK990 throws a sharp image, but LCOS is pretty good in that area also. Take a look here where Projector Central tested resolution of the RS2000 to the BenQ HT9060.https://www.projectorcentral.com/Projector-Resolution-Shootout-Part-2.htmThe LK990 may be sharper than the HT9060, but at this point we are splitting hairs, since everyone readily admits the HT9060 is very sharp. So you are trying to use light output as the big differentiator and I am using contrast. I believe ISF is on my side.
Kris Deering really dialed back the brightness on my RS4500, but improved the shadow detail and darker scenes substantially. Even guests remarked how it looked much better. Of course the Lumagen's dynamic tone mapping helps substantially. At least on my screen, I don't need the shear brightness anymore.
Another thing worth noting is that some of these dynamic tonemapping solutions have a highlight recovery feature. What this does is restore detail within the image that would normally be lost to clipping if just a static tone map were used so you don't lose out on picture information that's supposed to be present in the image. Honestly, I don't see too many drawbacks to dynamic tonemapping on projectors.
So you'd prefer to do the same on your HDR flat panels as well, which have the headroom to not have to do that so much and are across the board agreed upon are better at HDR than projectors due to their limited lumen capabilities, among other things?
There doesn't appear to be a need for highlight recovering how I do it apparently, since I can set it to see all the highlights and even shadow details with great clarity and no clipping or crushing. Maybe if you had more headroom available, all this tone mapping/compression wouldn't be as needed?BTW, LLDV/Dolby Vision isn't using static tone mapping, if that's what you were referring to towards me?Why is there so much off topic discussion of things like the Radiance Pro in this LK990 thread, when none of the people discussing it are using it on an LK990, or even an LK970 for that matter?Happy Memorial Day everyone! Please don't forget who this holiday is for, all those veteran heroes who paid the ultimate sacrifice to keep us all free!
I pretty much hate watching movies on TV's - flat panels or otherwise. I've been watching a projector of one sort or another for 17 years. At Cedia I just walk on by the flat panels - all of them. I don't like the look of watching a piece of glass. Too small too. So no - I have no HDR flat panel. Just a 1080p model for watching the news. That I bought at CostCo.
No, I wasn't referring to your LLDV hack as a static tonemap. However, I did misspeak. Highlights are recovered from compression, not clipping. As far as the Lumagen goes, I could ask you the same question. Why are you in an LK990 thread talking about an HDFury product? People use all kinds of video processors and players for their display devices. The Lumagen is one of them.
@woofer, I see you posting here. Does your friend still have the LK990, or was that an LK970 or am I mistaken?
If you mention the HT9060 with regards to comparing what I am saying and doing one more time, I think I am going to scream, haha! The LK990 is so much more than just more sharpness than the HT9060! The black levels and contrast were clearly better and more evident."Light Output" is certainly not the only differentiator between them or the other techs. I just watched Aquaman again last night using my 10,000 nit Max Luminance (nits) Dolby Vision Data Block string, Min Luminance .0005, BT2020 gamut and the low APL scenes were astonishing to see, like the scene where he and his dad just leave the bar and are driving home when the tidal wave hits. The dark images were just incredible, with absolutely no hint of the DLP milky haze people think would be there. Even the colors popped with such low luminance, which is one of the standout things you'll notice with this. All of the underwater scenes, especially the final battle scenes were extraordinary too!So answer me this question......has anyone anywhere at CEDIA, CES, INFOCOMM, IFA, etc. EVER ONCE done what I am doing on a BenQ LK990 or other possible equivalent laser phosphor or RGB laser DLP using a Max Luminance 10,000 nit Dolby Vision Data Block Custom String, .0005 nit min luminance custom string, using a BT2020 gamut DV setting with a tone mapping HDR Brightness signal curve of -2, contrast 48-50, brightness 46, wherein the first 100 nits of the signal being projected is essentially tone map (compression) free, which also then allows for the remainder of the nits available (~75-100 nits) to be used for specular highlights, which is apparently the only part of the signal now that needs compression/tone mapping when done in this manner? This results in spectacular images, as I see here every single day, whether everyone else's uninformed, untried and untested opinion says it does or not.All it takes is someone else with a BenQ LK990, Sony X800M2, HDFury Vertex2/DIVA/Maestro with all these settings which are super easy to replicate (as compared to my prior HV settings, which are a completely different concept) and put in. Good initial tests would be using Aquaman as I just mentioned and Mortal Engines, among many other Dolby Vision titles.@woofer, I see you posting here. Does your friend still have the LK990, or was that an LK970 or am I mistaken?
I post over at the Blu-ray website. It's funny, because 99% of those guys are using 65" flat panels. They think front projection is garbage because they have never seen an excellent projector in a good room. They have no idea how good it can look. They are used to low quality projectors often seen in schools, business, or bars/restaurants.
Except that you gave your earlier settings the same hype and several people compared your earlier settings against a high native contrast projector and every single one of them came to the same conclusion. You keep saying everyone is wrong and you are right and yet you have never made the comparison.