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Garrett Home theater

Garrett Home theater
« on: November 15, 2016, 06:47:57 AM »
This area says finished. To tell you the truth, I don't know if a theater is ever finished. There is always something new around the corner. Anyway my current theater consists of the following.

Equipment
JVC RS600
Prismasonic HD6000 on powered slide
108" wide curved screen with powered masking using EN4K fabric
Marantz AV7702
Sony BD player
HTPC
Furman sequencer
LCR's are 3-way active DIY
Two Mini DSP10x10HD's for crossover duty and sub calibration
Surrounds are JBL Pro 8340's (Older wood box with defeat able X-curve)
Four sealed subs RE-XXX, 18" Malstrom-X and two 18" SI18's
Multiple pro amps for speakers and subs
Middle Atlantic rack
Harmony Ultimate remote with home link so that I can control my Z-wave lighting.

I am running a 5.1.4 system. My room has black floor, black walls and black ceiling. I also have a lot of black velvet curtains.

Each of my front three LCR's consist of two AE TD12M's, Beyma TPL-150H and AE TD18H+. I run these down to 40hz. The top half of the speakers (MTM) are in one box with TPL-150H sealed off from the TD12M's. The TD18H's are in another enclosure. This allows me to adjust the depth of the TD18H's so that the acoustic centers of the TD18H is in line with the TD12 and TPL-150H.

I have two subs (SI18's built into the baffle wall and the other two subs (18" Mal-X & 18" RE-XXX) are at the back of the room. I have black velvet curtains from floor to ceiling on the sides going from screen wall to the seating. I also have black velvet curtains above the screen. I have bass traps in the back corners and sound panels along the side and back wall. My room is not built for looks, but it is built for performance. :)

First picture is of front wall.
Second picture is front wall with grills removed from the TD18H's.


« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 08:01:53 AM by AVSMike »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 07:12:42 AM »
Front wall with screen removed. Note that center speakers drivers are not installed. They were out for measurements for crossover design. The larger drivers in this picture are two SI18's for sub duty. The baffle wall behind the screen is covered in 1" of duct liner, with the only opening for the drivers. The baffle wall has the right and left wings at an angle so that right and left mains are pointed toward the main listening position.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 07:58:06 AM by AVSMike »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 07:30:46 AM »
Pictures of speaker and sub enclosures, before placed in baffle wall. In the stack, the bottom two are for the SI18's and the top three are the MTM's for the TPL-150H and dual TD12M's.   
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 08:05:28 AM by AVSMike »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 07:34:05 AM »
Picture of seating and projector. I have a shelf mounted right below the RS600 for demo projectors. Currently have a Vivitek H9090 on it. Note that the sound panels on my back wall are dark gray. Picture makes them look almost white.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 07:49:47 AM by AVSMike »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2016, 07:39:06 AM »
Reserved.
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2016, 07:39:23 AM »
Reserved.
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2016, 09:25:54 AM »
Mike, you have done a great job of creating your personal Home Theater IMO, and I am sure most everyone would love to have a setup like yours. I think that finished really means that it is at the point that it was originally intended to be not necessarily completed as we all know is never really completed if we are pursuing perfection.

I was tempted when I did my setup to do a baffle wall too. I understand it is great for movies, but is it also good for music? I don't say this out of criticism, but out of curiosity as I have never heard a baffle wall setup other than in a Commercial Theater. Plus if I had went with a baffle wall I could have moved the screen closer to the front wall so it is a possible choice for my HT too.

So how does a baffle wall sound for music?
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 10:48:43 AM by ellisr63 »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2016, 09:45:44 AM »
Excellent theater, Mike!  8)  The baffle wall looks menacing! Is their a diy for your lcr speakers?

Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2016, 10:28:55 AM »
Excellent theater, Mike!  8)  The baffle wall looks menacing! Is their a diy for your lcr speakers?

No, not really for the speakers. I do have more pictures. Front three are DIY 3-way active using the following drivers:

One Beyma TPL-150H: http://www.beyma.com/products/diapharagmtweeters/1TPL15H8
Two Acoustic Elegance TD12M: http://aespeakers.com/shop/td/td12m/
One Acoustic Elegance TD18H+: http://aespeakers.com/shop/td/td18h/
MiniDSP 10x10HD for crossover: https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-10x10-hd

The 18's cover from 40hz to 200hz. The 12's cover from 200hz to 1,400hz and the Beyma is 1,400hz and up.

The MTM boxes are pretty big. I do not have the exact measurements, but they are around 18 3/4" wide x 12" deep x 50" tall. The TD18H boxes are 42" wide x 23 3/4" H x 12" deep. The two TD12M's share common space. The TPL-150H has a separate enclosure inside the box. That allowed me to remove the back cup on the TPL-150H. I lined the interior of the cabinet with a damping material and then heavily stuffed the cabinet.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 11:10:25 AM by AVSMike »
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2016, 10:45:05 AM »
My side surrounds and four Atmos speakers are JBL Pro 8340: http://www.jblpro.com/pub/cinema/8340.pdf
I originally was going to go with the 8340s  for all my surrounds and Atmos, but I ended up with the 8320As for the Atmos channels as I didn't like the idea of a heavy speaker over my head. I have to admit the JBLs are awesome for surround, and Atmos speakers!
Yamaha CX-A5100, (3) diy synergy horn 2 ways,, 4 JBL 8340As, 4 JBL 8320s, PS3, XBoxOne, Monoprice speaker wire, and XLR cables, Redmere HDMI cables, Monster HTPS7000, 2 Furman filters, SeymourAV 195" diagonal scope screen, Panamorph UH-480, Darbee Darcet, diy 14 channel Ice Power amp

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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2016, 12:51:00 PM »
No, not really for the speakers. I do have more pictures. Front three are DIY 3-way active using the following drivers:

One Beyma TPL-150H: http://www.beyma.com/products/diapharagmtweeters/1TPL15H8
Two Acoustic Elegance TD12M: http://aespeakers.com/shop/td/td12m/
One Acoustic Elegance TD18H+: http://aespeakers.com/shop/td/td18h/
MiniDSP 10x10HD for crossover: https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-10x10-hd

The 18's cover from 40hz to 200hz. The 12's cover from 200hz to 1,400hz and the Beyma is 1,400hz and up.

The MTM boxes are pretty big. I do not have the exact measurements, but they are around 18 3/4" wide x 12" deep x 50" tall. The TD18H boxes are 42" wide x 23 3/4" H x 12" deep. The two TD12M's share common space. The TPL-150H has a separate enclosure inside the box. That allowed me to remove the back cup on the TPL-150H. I lined the interior of the cabinet with a damping material and then heavily stuffed the cabinet.

Sounds like a lot of work!  I'll just stick with my JTR's.  :)  I will build my sealed subs though.  8)

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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2016, 03:17:20 PM »
Bravo!

Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2016, 06:36:56 AM »
I originally was going to go with the 8340s  for all my surrounds and Atmos, but I ended up with the 8320As for the Atmos channels as I didn't like the idea of a heavy speaker over my head. I have to admit the JBLs are awesome for surround, and Atmos speakers!

They were actually pretty easy and safe to mount. The 8340's have an angled front face and they already have four threaded inserts on the back. So I cut two pieces of 5/8" light metal channel 1" longer than the width of the speaker. I then bolted the channel to the back of the speakers, so that it extended past the speaker 1/2" on each side. I then held the speaker flat against the ceiling and screwed through the channel (1/2" tabs sticking out) into blocking that I installed  above the ceiling. So I safely have 40 pound Atmos speakers hanging from my ceiling.
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2016, 09:19:03 AM »
They were actually pretty easy and safe to mount. The 8340's have an angled front face and they already have four threaded inserts on the back. So I cut two pieces of 5/8" light metal channel 1" longer than the width of the speaker. I then bolted the channel to the back of the speakers, so that it extended past the speaker 1/2" on each side. I then held the speaker flat against the ceiling and screwed through the channel (1/2" tabs sticking out) into blocking that I installed  above the ceiling. So I safely have 40 pound Atmos speakers hanging from my ceiling.

I had a friend make me some custom hinge brackets out of aluminum for our Atmos speakers. Ours are no longer angled like our surrounds are. The hinge is about 1' long on one end, and about 8" long on the other end. The brackets have pieces of tubing that are cut for spacing the speaker part that is attached to the 12" hinge side, and space it out to the 8" hinge side. When I installed it I just held the one end of the hinge up to the ceiling, and then attached that to the ceiling. I then inserted the longer screws through the other side of the hinge, slid on the aluminum tubing, and then held the speaker up to attached it to the hinge. Last part is to screw the long part of the hinge end up to the ceiling. It was a little cumbersome to do, but in the end it works fine.  I hope this makes sense, but our Atmos speakers are now parallel to the ceiling instead of angled.
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Re: Garrett Home theater
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2016, 02:18:01 PM »
Great looking HT, Mike!  Your equipment list is impressive. 

Is this a 2nd floor build?  Did you incorporate any sound isolation into the build to help contain those massive subs?  :)