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Video Source Devices => 4K UltraHD Blu-ray => Topic started by: AVSMike on October 24, 2016, 11:41:52 AM

Title: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on October 24, 2016, 11:41:52 AM
Like many other people, I too am looking forward to the release of the new 4K player from Oppo. Here is what we know, so far:

1.  It will be a universal player supporting DVD-Audio and SACD.
2.  It will have two HDMI ports. One for video/audio with HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 and the second HDMI port for audio only for    connection to legacy equipment.
3.  It will have an HDMI input port for connecting sources to the player.
4.  Built in Wifi support and ethernet connection.
5.  Three USB media file ports.
6.  HDR support and HDR to SDR conversion.
7.  7.1 channel analog out.
8.  Optical digital audio.
9.  RS232 for control.
10.  12 volt trigger.
11.  No streaming apps. At least not on introduction. Oppo could add some later, but no confirmation of that.
12.  Expected price of $499 with availability in December 2016.

Contact your dealer for preordering.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 24, 2016, 11:50:50 AM
Can't wait Mike.  Hope it has all we're looking for (especially the HDR to  to SDR!).

(PS - I already contacted my dealer to preorder... Oh Yeah... that's YOU!)   :P

BTW - You guys need to get rid of that Verification check for every message posted (that will go over like a lead balloon!).   ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on October 24, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
Post a few more times and it will be gone. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on October 24, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
This player will make a nice X-mas present for me.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on October 24, 2016, 06:44:20 PM
Can't wait Mike.  Hope it has all we're looking for (especially the HDR to  to SDR!).

(PS - I already contacted my dealer to preorder... Oh Yeah... that's YOU!)   :P

BTW - You guys need to get rid of that Verification check for every message posted (that will go over like a lead balloon!).   ;)

I think we all have one on pre - order ! There will be a glut of Samsung 4K players on ebay for New Years, that's for sure !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 24, 2016, 08:02:34 PM
This player will make a nice X-mas present for me.  Can't wait!

Nice Avatar brutha!   :P   :-*
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on October 25, 2016, 05:06:48 AM
Nice Avatar brutha!   :P   :-*

thxman....I mean thanks man!  Go Cubs!  :D 8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 25, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
thxman....I mean thanks man!  Go Cubs!  :D 8)

Wow... even better!  ;D 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on October 26, 2016, 11:07:52 AM
Im just back from a US trip, if it had been out i would have gotten 1 with me back home to Denmark.
I do have the Panasonic UB900, and hope the new OPPO will do better handeling the new format, and hopfully support a coming HDR format that works for projectors without to many compromises.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on October 26, 2016, 11:26:53 AM
Im just back from a US trip, if it had been out i would have gotten 1 with me back home to Denmark.
I do have the Panasonic UB900, and hope the new OPPO will do better handeling the new format, and hopfully support a coming HDR format that works for projectors without to many compromises.

I think HDR will always be compromised with projectors vs HDTV's, due to the way they work. On the other hand, a big glass screen is not a theater and has a totally different look. I prefer front projection. So, you must pick your poison so to speak. The HD Fury Integral has been great to just remove HDR from the equation entirely !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 26, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
I think HDR will always be compromised with projectors vs HDTV's, due to the way they work. On the other hand, a big glass screen is not a theater and has a totally different look. I prefer front projection. So, you must pick your poison so to speak. The HD Fury Integral has been great to just remove HDR from the equation entirely !

What is this "HD Fury Integral" of which you speak?? 

 ::)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on October 26, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
What is this "HD Fury Integral" of which you speak?? 

 ::)

Right here - https://www.hdfury.com/shop/splitters/integral-4k60-444-600mhz/
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on October 26, 2016, 12:19:50 PM
What is this "HD Fury Integral" of which you speak?? 

 ::)

LOL Craig must not know who you are.  You had me for a sec the other day.  Your new call sign always reads like: Thanks man.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on October 26, 2016, 12:22:05 PM
I think HDR will always be compromised with projectors vs HDTV's, due to the way they work. On the other hand, a big glass screen is not a theater and has a totally different look. I prefer front projection. So, you must pick your poison so to speak. The HD Fury Integral has been great to just remove HDR from the equation entirely !

The main problem is that the source material is mastered in HDR, so SDR also dont work right, unless you got a very very bright projector, and to me the elevated black/ low contrast converted HDR to SDR dont really work, ill much prefer a HD Blu Ray mastered in SDR.. So as it looks to me the HDR format is made for Tvs in bright livingroom conditions.. Wich is sad as the UHD resolution really belong on the big scren.. So hopfully we will get a HDR format mastered for 100 nit or something like that, instead of the fantastic high output nr, sure 10000 nit is better than 100 on paper right.?

I really really hope we will get a optimum UHD format, that aim for projector presentation, untill then i think we are better off with HD blu ray for projector use.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 26, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
LOL Craig must not know who you are.  You had me for a sec the other day.  Your new call sign always reads like: Thanks man.  ;D :P

Went back to my old stuff (would have had 'THX-MAN' all along like me other sites but some F'r stole it from me back in 2002 on AVS  ;D ).

I could see how Craig may have misunderstood with my moniker at the bottom saying... Kevin (Krichter1 on AVS Forum).  Reading is a skill not yet mastered by some.   :P   ;D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on October 28, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
Went back to my old stuff (would have had 'THX-MAN' all along like me other sites but some F'r stole it from me back in 2002 on AVS  ;D ).

I could see how Craig may have misunderstood with my moniker at the bottom saying... Kevin (Krichter1 on AVS Forum).  Reading is a skill not yet mastered by some.   :P   ;D

I missed that entirely Kevin - DOH !  ;D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on October 28, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
You are blowing your opportunity to run under the radar. :) I have done the calculations, I can get around 36FL max brightness on my screen, so I think HDR should look pretty good in my room. Ready for the 203. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on October 28, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
You are blowing your opportunity to run under the radar. :) I have done the calculations, I can get around 36FL max brightness on my screen, so I think HDR should look pretty good in my room. Ready for the 203. :)

36fl is a lot of light.. Whats screen and projector is that.?

I just calibrated a projector that measured 2.600.000.000:1 at 12-16fl and a 2.56 gamma on a 100" 1,3gain steward screen.. now that was a dynamic SDR image, but pushing HDR on that would make it very non dynamic or add a lot of white clipping.

How do you calibrate for HDR? is there any test discs out.?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on October 29, 2016, 08:02:28 AM
36fl is a lot of light.. Whats screen and projector is that.?

I just calibrated a projector that measured 2.600.000.000:1 at 12-16fl and a 2.56 gamma on a 100" 1,3gain steward screen.. now that was a dynamic SDR image, but pushing HDR on that would make it very non dynamic or add a lot of white clipping.

How do you calibrate for HDR? is there any test discs out.?

I have a JVC RS600 with A-lens, 10'-9" throw onto a 107" wide EN4K curved screen.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 29, 2016, 06:15:58 PM
I missed that entirely Kevin - DOH !  ;D

No worries.  Had to give ya some crapola over that one tho!   ;D 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 29, 2016, 06:19:16 PM
36fl is a lot of light.. Whats screen and projector is that.?

I just calibrated a projector that measured 2.600.000.000:1 at 12-16fl and a 2.56 gamma on a 100" 1,3gain steward screen.. now that was a dynamic SDR image, but pushing HDR on that would make it very non dynamic or add a lot of white clipping.

How do you calibrate for HDR? is there any test discs out.?

I had my JVC calibrated by Chad B (on AVSf), and the 2nd time he was out he brought over a new Samsung HDR calibration disc he said he recv'd the week before from his certification training (so yes there is something out there now).   ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on October 29, 2016, 06:55:20 PM
I had my JVC calibrated by Chad B (on AVSf), and the 2nd time he was out he brought over a new Samsung HDR calibration disc he said he recv'd the week before from his certification training (so yes there is something out there now).   ;)

Do you know how he compensated for the missing light output? I dont expect you had 1000nit/ 291fl on screen, did he clip white or go for a dimmer image.?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on October 30, 2016, 10:38:21 PM
Do you know how he compensated for the missing light output? I dont expect you had 1000nit/ 291fl on screen, did he clip white or go for a dimmer image.?

I believe he manipulated the CMS a bit but my image is being clipped at 1K nits and yes it does look darker but definitely more accurate (he did up brightness to +10 but left gamma D at 12/5/4); helping blacks quite a bit to my eyes but yet still plenty of high APL "Pop" when called upon but I have yet to see any noticeable white crush.   :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on November 02, 2016, 10:48:31 AM
... I too am looking forward to the release of the new 4K player from Oppo....


2.  It will have two HDMI ports. One for video with HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 and the second HDMI port for audio only for    connection to legacy equipment.

Contact your dealer for preordering.

On that second item, is that second HDMI specifically for music or is it driven by the changes in HDMI protocol?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on November 02, 2016, 10:50:40 AM
Post a few more times and it will be gone. :)

Good to know -- it really is a pain.  Already had on confused  :-X letter...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 02, 2016, 12:38:55 PM
On that second item, is that second HDMI specifically for music or is it driven by the changes in HDMI protocol?

The first HDMI port can transmit video and audio. The second HDMI port is for audio only. For those that do not have an AVR or prepro that has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on November 02, 2016, 12:46:45 PM
The first HDMI port can transmit video and audio. The second HDMI port is for audio only. For those that do not have an AVR or prepro that has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2.

Have you heard any updates on a release date Mike?

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 02, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
I haven't heard any new news, but with Oppo out of the current Blu Ray players, I'd guess they are working on getting them out as soon as possible !!!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 02, 2016, 02:06:04 PM
Have you heard any updates on a release date Mike?

Still around the middle of December. Think of it as a Christmas present. You were not one of those that got into your presents early were you. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on November 02, 2016, 02:41:24 PM
Still around the middle of December. Think of it as a Christmas present. You were not one of those that got into your presents early were you. :)

Why yes... yes I was!   ;D

(been watching it ever since last Xmas too... can't believe I cracked 1K hours already... most of any of the JVCs so far Ive owned... guess that means I LIKE it!)   ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on November 02, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
Will be interesting to see if the 203 will output a non compromised image on the only video HDMI output it have.. If so that must mean they left the enhancement features behind, or finaly found a processor that can do it all without negative effects like the usual croma loss. As i already have the Panasonic UB900 that i dont use, i think ill try to controle my buy it now trigger to the 2nd generation OPPO UHD player, who hopfully will be set on streaming services, and a HDR standard that might make sense.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kokishin on November 04, 2016, 01:35:27 PM
I think HDR will always be compromised with projectors vs HDTV's, due to the way they work. On the other hand, a big glass screen is not a theater and has a totally different look. I prefer front projection. So, you must pick your poison so to speak. The HD Fury Integral has been great to just remove HDR from the equation entirely !

From: http://www.trustedreviews.com/oppo-udp-203-review (http://www.trustedreviews.com/oppo-udp-203-review):
Naturally, there’s also HDR to SDR conversion for older TVs that don’t support HDR10 – it can be selected in the setup menu as one of four HDR modes, alongside an option to output HDR with the metadata stripped.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 04, 2016, 02:20:05 PM
From: http://www.trustedreviews.com/oppo-udp-203-review (http://www.trustedreviews.com/oppo-udp-203-review):
Naturally, there’s also HDR to SDR conversion for older TVs that don’t support HDR10 – it can be selected in the setup menu as one of four HDR modes, alongside an option to output HDR with the metadata stripped.

While I don't always trust " Trusted Reviews ", I'm going to trust this one, and now my excitement level is up to 110% to get this player.  :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 04, 2016, 02:34:37 PM
People should check out the special deals section. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on November 04, 2016, 04:57:43 PM
People should check out the special deals section. :)

No they shouldn't.   That won't help me out much.   :P ::)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Mjv29 on November 04, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
I checked it out and looking forward to winning! 😜
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on November 04, 2016, 06:29:52 PM
While I don't always trust " Trusted Reviews ", I'm going to trust this one, and now my excitement level is up to 110% to get this player.  :)

I'm right there with ya (just wish since they were doing a "hands-on" review they would have spent a little time on the HDR/SDR settings!)!   :-X
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Mjv29 on November 04, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Review on Oppo from Forbes, looks like the Oppo is going to be great!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/09/23/hands-on-with-the-oppo-udp-203-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/#14783b5f4d3a
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on November 05, 2016, 08:03:43 AM
On Oppo's Facebook page in the September 21 posting regarding the 203...

Responding to a question asking about a 105 replacement...

We're working on it. It will probably take another 2-4 months after the UDP-203 is ready.

Responding to question about Dolby Vision...

At launch, the UDP-203 will be capable of supporting HDR10. Additional support for other HDR formats such as Dolby Vision may be available at a later date via firmware upgrade, but it’s not something we can promise at this time.

https://www.facebook.com/OPPODigital/
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ralph P. on November 06, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Greetings,

I am most definitely looking forward to the release of the Oppo. Woo Hoo!

Regards,

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: laugsbach on November 08, 2016, 02:12:02 PM
Day one purchase for me... :)

I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my 1080p projector or let the Oppo down scale...I am really interested in the Atmos audio on certain UHD discs...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 09, 2016, 07:43:51 AM
Day one purchase for me... :)

I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my 1080p projector or let the Oppo down scale...I am really interested in the Atmos audio on certain UHD discs...

Might be time for an RS500. You know who to call !  ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on November 09, 2016, 08:03:34 AM
A question for Mike.  How soon after Oppo begins shipping to their own retail customers, who have ordered thru the Oppo web site, do you expect AV Science to receive their first batch of 203's?

A second question for any existing Oppo owner that pre-ordered an earlier model player thru the Oppo web site.  How long was it from the time you received the Oppo email for pre-orders until Oppo actually began shipping the new players?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 09, 2016, 08:41:15 AM
A question for Mike.  How soon after Oppo begins shipping to their own retail customers, who have ordered thru the Oppo web site, do you expect AV Science to receive their first batch of 203's?

A second question for any existing Oppo owner that pre-ordered an earlier model player thru the Oppo web site.  How long was it from the time you received the Oppo email for pre-orders until Oppo actually began shipping the new players?

Oppo told us the first shipment that Oppo gets will be a small limited quantity. Dealers will receive theirs from the second batch.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 09, 2016, 08:43:47 AM
Day one purchase for me... :)

I am trying to decide if I should upgrade my 1080p projector or let the Oppo down scale...I am really interested in the Atmos audio on certain UHD discs...

Not sure that you will get Atmos, if down converting to 1080P. I just do not know. What do current owners get, audio wise when down converting to 1080P?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on November 09, 2016, 09:14:13 AM
I wouldn't think the video scaler in the Oppo would affect the audio (he should still be able to get the uncompressed immersive stream out the 2nd output).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 09, 2016, 09:57:31 AM
I wouldn't think the video scaler in the Oppo would affect the audio (he should still be able to get the uncompressed immersive stream out the 2nd output).

Thanks for the answer. Disadvantage here, since I am still waiting for the Oppo and do not have a 4K player to play with.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: laugsbach on November 10, 2016, 07:52:49 AM
Update, I received an answer from Oppo:

Larry,
Yes, the player can down-scale to 1080p and be able to output Atmos and DTS:X to your receiver for processing and amplification.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
162 Constitution Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 10, 2016, 09:01:43 AM
Update, I received an answer from Oppo:

Larry,
Yes, the player can down-scale to 1080p and be able to output Atmos and DTS:X to your receiver for processing and amplification.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
162 Constitution Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119


That is great new... I can also use it in my HT!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kutlow on November 11, 2016, 07:31:32 AM
Need help. I am on the waiting list for the new Oppo. In the meantime I bought the Samsung 4k player at Best Buy for 229.00. They have a 15 day return policy which I will return the day before it expires. I done this before while waiting on my earlier Oppo.

My question is my theater is a dedicated room and I play 100% Bluray movies. Is there any benefit to the oppo vs the Samsung? I do not stream anything...I only play bluray discs. Thanks in advance. I might also use it to insert a thumb drive for music once every few months but that is it.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 11, 2016, 10:02:54 AM
Need help. I am on the waiting list for the new Oppo. In the meantime I bought the Samsung 4k player at Best Buy for 229.00. They have a 15 day return policy which I will return the day before it expires. I done this before while waiting on my earlier Oppo.

My question is my theater is a dedicated room and I play 100% Bluray movies. Is there any benefit to the oppo vs the Samsung? I do not stream anything...I only play bluray discs. Thanks in advance. I might also use it to insert a thumb drive for music once every few months but that is it.

Well, all of us on the Oppo 4K player pre-order list do hope that it will have a better build quality, more control over the picture, a better picture, a way better remote. No one can say with certainty until it comes out. But early reviews say yes - you will benefit with an Oppo vs the Samsung. Otherwise we wouldn't be getting one too !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 11, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
Need help. I am on the waiting list for the new Oppo. In the meantime I bought the Samsung 4k player at Best Buy for 229.00. They have a 15 day return policy which I will return the day before it expires. I done this before while waiting on my earlier Oppo.

My question is my theater is a dedicated room and I play 100% Bluray movies. Is there any benefit to the oppo vs the Samsung? I do not stream anything...I only play bluray discs. Thanks in advance. I might also use it to insert a thumb drive for music once every few months but that is it.
Do you by any chance play SACDs? I ask this because the 103 has the capability of ripping SACDs to your HDD for playback...not sure if the new one will be able to or not, but it is a big plus in my book if it does. Don't ask Oppo though as it is not a feature, but is doable with a USB boot stick.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/sacd-ripping-using-oppo-or-pioneer-yes-its-true-29251/
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: jlanzy on November 12, 2016, 01:10:21 PM
Need help. I am on the waiting list for the new Oppo. In the meantime I bought the Samsung 4k player at Best Buy for 229.00. They have a 15 day return policy which I will return the day before it expires. I done this before while waiting on my earlier Oppo.

My question is my theater is a dedicated room and I play 100% Bluray movies. Is there any benefit to the oppo vs the Samsung? I do not stream anything...I only play bluray discs. Thanks in advance. I might also use it to insert a thumb drive for music once every few months but that is it.


I use the oppo 103 with a darblet to run all video through it to the projector and use the video processor to lightly tweak picture settings depending on source. I don't think the Samsung has a hdmi input for other video sources and if so if the on board processor is as good as the oppo's.  It's not day and night improvements but does help on some hdtv program and occasionally on a bluray.  I assume correctly or incorrectly the 203 will allow the same and hopefully if darbee does release a 4K version that I would add that to the video chain since it's improvement is far more noticeable than the minor tweaks I do in the oppo video processor.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ShadeRF on November 14, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Slightly disappointed there's no Dolby Vision support (I think) but this will still be THE player to get. I'm just now hoping to jump into the 4k game but I've already been buying 4k blu-rays to future proof myself so I've already got plenty of media to throw at this thing.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 14, 2016, 01:31:28 PM
Slightly disappointed there's no Dolby Vision support (I think) but this will still be THE player to get. I'm just now hoping to jump into the 4k game but I've already been buying 4k blu-rays to future proof myself so I've already got plenty of media to throw at this thing.

What 4K Blu Rays even have DV ? I thought none at this time.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ShadeRF on November 14, 2016, 01:39:54 PM
What 4K Blu Rays even have DV ? I thought none at this time.

None yet but supposedly there will be next year. I am hopeful DV will catch on as I really like what I've read about it.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: seplant on November 14, 2016, 05:38:43 PM
Slightly disappointed there's no Dolby Vision support (I think) but this will still be THE player to get. I'm just now hoping to jump into the 4k game but I've already been buying 4k blu-rays to future proof myself so I've already got plenty of media to throw at this thing.

Sounds like there is a good chance the hardware necessary for DV is build into this player, so hopefully a firmware update sometime next year after Dolby certification will enable DV. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on November 15, 2016, 03:20:26 AM
After visiting DV home page, i hope that it will never be implemented in anything, if the examples are anywhere near realistic to what DV do to the image.. Maybe its time to hope for a UHD Rec709 SDR 10bit format, so we have a chance of getting some high quality content.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/home/dolby-vision.html
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 15, 2016, 11:06:33 AM
After visiting DV home page, i hope that it will never be implemented in anything, if the examples are anywhere near realistic to what DV do to the image.. Maybe its time to hope for a UHD Rec709 SDR 10bit format, so we have a chance of getting some high quality content.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/home/dolby-vision.html

Just use an HD Fury Integral. That way you can get better resolution and the wide color gamut, and leave it at that ! That's what I do. Looks outstanding.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on November 22, 2016, 03:34:04 PM
Just use an HD Fury Integral. That way you can get better resolution and the wide color gamut, and leave it at that ! That's what I do. Looks outstanding.

So what gamma and max light output do you calibrate that to. UHD movies output in SDR still dont compare to HD SDR.

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 23, 2016, 08:43:46 AM
So what gamma and max light output do you calibrate that to. UHD movies output in SDR still dont compare to HD SDR.

That depends - what display are you watching them on ? On my JVC RS600, HDR does more harm than good, since it raises black levels dramatically. Using " The Revenant " as an example, the bright parts of the scenes were already bright on my set up with Blu Ray ( about 18 foot lamberts ), but the black levels are extremely good. HDR makes the blacks look grey, since it disables the iris. Using the Integral, I still get the wide color gamut and better detail. So whether HDR looks better or not, will come down to what you watch it on. 

Current 4K settings on my JVC RS600 ( NO HDR ) –
Color profile – BT. 2020
Color Temperature – 6500K
Gamma – Custom – 2.4
Picture Tone – 6 ( or up to 8 )  Dark Level – 4 ( or 5 )
Contrast 5   Brightness  7
MPC – default ( 5 )
Manual Iris -7   Auto Iris 1  Low Lamp
Input Level Auto   Color Space Auto

Samsung Settings –
Sharpness Contrast +1 Brightness +1
HD Fury Integral setting -  SDR BT2020, you need to set the Integral to custom mode 10 - 4K60 420 12bits BT2020 all sound.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on November 23, 2016, 09:39:07 AM
I see you adjust a lot of brightness and contrast, is that to change the clipping points of black and white.? Ill guess you have some white clipping with those settings and that makes the average scenes look brighter, compensating  the HDR mastering.?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 25, 2016, 04:43:27 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen on the Oppo 203 or not...  http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/09/23/hands-on-with-the-oppo-udp-203-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/#5fcaa6014d3a
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on November 26, 2016, 05:04:49 AM
good find
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ShadeRF on November 26, 2016, 10:52:26 AM
Not sure if anyone has seen on the Oppo 203 or not...  http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/09/23/hands-on-with-the-oppo-udp-203-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/#5fcaa6014d3a

Nice write up. I want this now more than ever for my recently acquired Vizio P65!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 26, 2016, 02:07:33 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen on the Oppo 203 or not...  http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/09/23/hands-on-with-the-oppo-udp-203-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player/#5fcaa6014d3a

We saw it on page three of this thread !!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 26, 2016, 02:19:41 PM
I see you adjust a lot of brightness and contrast, is that to change the clipping points of black and white.? Ill guess you have some white clipping with those settings and that makes the average scenes look brighter, compensating  the HDR mastering.?

Most of these settings ( for 4K UHD with the Samsung 4K player ) were first posted on AVS Forum by " Manni ", Kris Deering and others. Note that I also directly compared the 4K UHD with the Blu Ray ( using my calibrated user setting for 1080p ) also. These settings are for SDR BT2020 (to play UHD Blurays in SDR with the wide colour gamut using the HD Fury Integral to strip the HDR capability from the display ). My HDR settings are quite different. We really need 4K test patterns / calibration discs to become widely available. This is close enough for now. The picture looks excellent. I have 10 new 4k Blu Rays coming so i can really do some tests soon !!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 26, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
We saw it on page three of this thread !!
Sorry Craig... I missed it. Could I make a suggestion that the links be inserted in the first thread so everyone see them. Eventually the thread will be very long, and this is a type of link that I think would be great to have in the first post of the thread.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 26, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Sorry Craig... I missed it. Could I make a suggestion that the links be inserted in the first thread so everyone see them. Eventually the thread will be very long, and this is a type of link that I think would be great to have in the first post of the thread.

No biggie. There is a link to the " Trusted Reviews " Oppo review too. Hurry up Oppo !!  :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on November 27, 2016, 06:32:45 AM
almost December...wonder when in December this puppy is coming out

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on November 27, 2016, 10:13:24 AM
almost December...wonder when in December this puppy is coming out

Count on December 31st. Then you will be happy when it arrives earlier. I'll just be happy if it arrives by Xmas Eve !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on November 27, 2016, 10:18:51 AM
Count on December 31st. Then you will be happy when it arrives earlier. I'll just be happy if it arrives by Xmas Eve !

ill be happy whenever it comes out as long as it has the hdr to sdr
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 27, 2016, 05:20:36 PM
Count on December 31st. Then you will be happy when it arrives earlier. I'll just be happy if it arrives by Xmas Eve !

That would be great if they were released, and shipped to arrive by Xmas eve!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on November 30, 2016, 07:39:43 AM
It is looking pretty good for the unit to have the ability to strip out HDR from the start, rather than having to have it added in an update.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on November 30, 2016, 07:41:29 AM
It is looking pretty good for the unit to have the ability to strip out HDR from the start, rather than having to have it added in an update.
YES!!!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on November 30, 2016, 08:59:11 AM
I am hoping that the chip hasn't changed to where I can no longer rip my SACD discs to the NAS. I know this is wish-full thinking though as it most likely has been changed.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DLCPhoto on November 30, 2016, 04:27:39 PM
Hey Mike,
It is looking pretty good for the unit to have the ability to strip out HDR from the start, rather than having to have it added in an update.

I would love for you to be right, but I'm curious what this is based on.  The last I recall, Oppo stated that this was unlikely, possibly for sure, to be present at release, and hopefully available as an update.

Unless you're speaking of just having SDR/Rec709 available (while we all want to have SDR/BT2020).

Thanks.

Don
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on November 30, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
Santa's warehouse?

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2lcy8pe.jpg)

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 01, 2016, 01:26:07 AM
Nice, but where are they?  China or Long Beach?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 01, 2016, 01:53:15 AM
Santa's warehouse?

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2lcy8pe.jpg)

Drooooooollll
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 01, 2016, 03:55:44 AM
Nice picture.. One of those that bring hope.. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 01, 2016, 05:36:59 AM
Hey Mike,
I would love for you to be right, but I'm curious what this is based on.  The last I recall, Oppo stated that this was unlikely, possibly for sure, to be present at release, and hopefully available as an update.

Unless you're speaking of just having SDR/Rec709 available (while we all want to have SDR/BT2020).

Thanks.

Don

The fact that beta units currently have this ability. :) It still could be firmware update, but if it is, it would not be a long wait.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 01, 2016, 07:17:01 AM
Beta units?  Now where did you get that info?  Never mind.  It's good to know no matter how you found out.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 01, 2016, 08:51:11 AM
so if that pics was current and in japan....then the units will be available in about 3 weeks for shipping here
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 01, 2016, 08:55:11 AM
Nice, but where are they?  China or Long Beach?
I would assume that they are either in Asia or in the San Francisco Bay Area since they are located in the Bay. I used to work for Customs, and that doesn't look like any warehouse i have been to in the past in the bay.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 01, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
Beta units?  Now where did you get that info? Never mind.  It's good to know no matter how you found out.

We do have Oppo's phone number !  ;D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 01, 2016, 09:35:24 AM
I Googled that eleven digit number on the pic and it happens to be the phone number for an electronics retailer or distributor in China.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on December 01, 2016, 06:18:27 PM
It is looking pretty good for the unit to have the ability to strip out HDR from the start, rather than having to have it added in an update.

Really Mike,  you hear some inside news?  ??? 8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 01, 2016, 06:48:09 PM
Heard some news and not real happy about it. :( Oppo is not going to allow dealers access to the 203 until a week or two after launch, so that they can get all of the initial orders.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on December 01, 2016, 07:53:11 PM
Heard some news and not real happy about it. :( Oppo is not going to allow dealers access to the 203 until a week or two after launch, so that they can get all of the initial orders.

Jerks!  :(
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 02, 2016, 03:22:20 AM
Oppo takes care of their direct purchasers first with any new launch if my memory is correct.  I don't even remember any re-sellers when I bought my 83.  Maybe Audio Advisor if anyone, but maybe direct only also.  My memory is a bit hazy on that.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 02, 2016, 07:00:13 AM
In the other forum a poster reported that Oppo replied to him by email that the 203 would be available mid-month at a suggested list price of $499 - $599.

Perhaps a limited time introduction price at $499?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 02, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
Heard some news and not real happy about it. :( Oppo is not going to allow dealers access to the 203 until a week or two after launch, so that they can get all of the initial orders.

super sad face
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 02, 2016, 07:30:40 AM
Oppo takes care of their direct purchasers first with any new launch if my memory is correct.  I don't even remember any re-sellers when I bought my 83.  Maybe Audio Advisor if anyone, but maybe direct only also.  My memory is a bit hazy on that.

Takes care of? It is a matter of maximizing profit. Sony has done the same thing. Remember when the HMZ-T1 came out. A lot of dealers had preorders and Sony released the product direct to catch all of the initial sales, then later released to dealers. There were no Oppo dealers, when the 83 came out. http://www.soundandvision.com/discplayers/oppo_bdp-83_universal_blu-ray_player/#b6ITu6Cr84uSSegh.97 (http://www.soundandvision.com/discplayers/oppo_bdp-83_universal_blu-ray_player/#b6ITu6Cr84uSSegh.97)

"Oppo Digital may not be the most recognized name on the block, but if you’ve used its products in the past, you’ll certainly remember it. Oppo has been in the DVD player market for a few years now and does all of its business online."
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 02, 2016, 08:16:43 AM
Glad my memory is still mostly intact.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 02, 2016, 09:25:59 AM
Are you purchasing one? If so you could still review it. ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 02, 2016, 10:08:48 AM
Are you purchasing one? If so you could still review it. ;)

If that was meant for me than yes, I am a buyer.  I sent in my email notification request when it was first posted.  No need to wait for reviews.  I'm a long time satisfied Oppo owner. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 02, 2016, 10:13:53 AM
Are you purchasing one? If so you could still review it. ;)

I have one on order too. Good thing, as my Samsung 4K player has been acting up lately. It's a piece of ____ ( fill in your own 4 letter word ).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 02, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
I have one on order too. Good thing, as my Samsung 4K player has been acting up lately. It's a piece of ____ ( fill in your own 4 letter word ).
I have heard the same about the Samsung...wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. Samsung definitely dropped the ball on the 4K player.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 02, 2016, 11:44:29 AM
I have heard the same about the Samsung...wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. Samsung definitely dropped the ball on the 4K player.

Yep, that is why I am 4K playerless. :(
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 02, 2016, 11:50:38 AM
my samsung has been flawless guess I have been lucky (i cant stand it has no front display)...but still cant wait for the oppo as thats what I had before...and want one back
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 02, 2016, 12:13:40 PM
Actually, except for the cheap build/feel, the Samsung has been getting really good reviews in general.  And the price has plummeted for BF and Xmas.  Wanna bet on <$100 before Super Bowl?  And frankly, a lot of this has probably been precipitated by the OPPO anticipation.  I seriously doubt that Samsung and Philips (the other "lower" end 4K BR player) have missed all this flap.  I expect that by Vegas time frame, one or both will annouce a new OPPO competitor.  All Samsung really needs to do is put a decent frame on theirs and give it a new model number. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 02, 2016, 01:30:16 PM
Yep, that is why I am 4K playerless. :(
What a shame that in this day, and age Manufacturers rush to get a product out without fully testing them. :(
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on December 05, 2016, 08:22:35 AM
My guess is we will learn the official US release date for the 203 sometime this week and the first units to begin shipping next week.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 05, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
would be a   nice B-day present
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 05, 2016, 02:25:11 PM
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/oppo-does-ultra-hd#6lQlhDz0RH5lZbko.97
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 06, 2016, 10:22:47 AM
Just a reminder for those in the Oppo drawing, that you need 15 posts by the 10th. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 06, 2016, 11:01:07 AM
Just a reminder for those in the Oppo drawing, that you need 15 posts by the 10th. :)

Shhhhhhhh!!!  I really need the best odds possible to win this thing! lol
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: jkasanic on December 07, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
Shhhhhhhh!!!  I really need the best odds possible to win this thing! lol
Haha, I was just catching up on all my unread thread topics and came across the Oppo drawing one!  :P
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kokishin on December 07, 2016, 01:15:27 PM
Haha, I was just catching up on all my unread thread topics and came across the Oppo drawing one!  :P

Damn! I'm currently behind Joe in the post count race.  (But I have more "likes").  Been spending too much time watching Trump on the news. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kokishin on December 07, 2016, 01:22:24 PM
Shhhhhhhh!!!  I really need the best odds possible to win this thing! lol

Brian, @ellisr63 has 363 posts as I type this.  Best odds (sure winner) are to have the most posts by Dec 10th.

Keep them doggies rollin'...

edit: 364

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: jkasanic on December 07, 2016, 01:24:14 PM
^^^Really wanted to hit like on that one but then I'd just be further behind (on the meaningless likes)!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kokishin on December 07, 2016, 01:27:10 PM
^^^Really wanted to hit like on that one but then I'd just be further behind (on the meaningless likes)!

Superfluous posts will not win you the 203.  BTW, I gave you a "meaningless" like.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: kokishin on December 07, 2016, 01:48:00 PM
Wow! I posted over in that other (control freak) forum that I hope Trump tweets that Oppo is over charging for the 203.  It was meant as a total JOKE!  The mod deleted it within 5 minutes of my posting.  Unf'ing believable!   I even got 2 "likes" for it.

I hope AVSDiscussions eventually kicks their azz.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 07, 2016, 01:58:23 PM
Between the Oppo 203 and the JVC RS4500, this month is going to creep by time wise excruciatingly slowly !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on December 07, 2016, 02:06:39 PM
Between the Oppo 203 and the JVC RS4500, this month is going to creep by time wise excruciatingly slowly !

Holy SHEET Craig... yur really getting a 4500??  If so Congrats (and you SUCK)!!   ;D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 07, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
Brian, @ellisr63 has 363 posts as I type this.  Best odds (sure winner) are to have the most posts by Dec 10th.

Keep them doggies rollin'...

edit: 364

its impossibel

everytime I reply to a thread with a meaningful post (aka gain ground) he replies to every one....so its hopless in that respect haha.....maybe they can give 2 away for the top two posters?? lol
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 07, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
its impossibel

everytime I reply to a thread with a meaningful post (aka gain ground) he replies to every one....so its hopless in that respect haha.....maybe they can give 2 away for the top two posters?? lol

Dont worry i have prepared material for 238 posts ill post while your all sleeping on the last day.. 8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 07, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
Dont worry i have prepared material for 238 posts ill post while your all sleeping on the last day.. 8)

very very sneaky sir....BUT your not in the US..so....;)

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 07, 2016, 03:23:22 PM
very very sneaky sir....BUT your not in the US..so....;)

Yeah so i sleep at a different time.. I have a US adress, so no problem sending the oppo to me.. ;)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 07, 2016, 03:47:19 PM
Holy SHEET Craig... yur really getting a 4500??  If so Congrats (and you SUCK)!!   ;D

I hope so. Book a Southwest flight and come over and check it out ! If and when I get one. Nothing is 100% until it happens. In the mean time, I'll be checking out some more 4K UHD Blu Rays tonight on my RS600 !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 07, 2016, 03:50:40 PM
I hope so. Book a Southwest flight and come over and check it out ! If and when I get one. Nothing is 100% until it happens. In the mean time, I'll be checking out some more 4K UHD Blu Rays tonight on my RS600 !
I can't even imagine the pic being any better than your RS600, as that picture was AWESOME! Let me know when you have the new one all setup, as I would love to see it in action too.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 07, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
A poster on the other forum claims to have gotten an email reply from Oppo regarding their sign up page for email notifications:

Yes, we will be informing customers when a purchase opportunity becomes available if they are signed up for the newsletter.

The players will likely be exclusive to our website for the first month of release then we will make them more widely available through our retail and custom installer partners.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 08, 2016, 05:43:35 AM
A poster on the other forum claims to have gotten an email reply from Oppo regarding their sign up page for email notifications:

Yes, we will be informing customers when a purchase opportunity becomes available if they are signed up for the newsletter.

The players will likely be exclusive to our website for the first month of release then we will make them more widely available through our retail and custom installer partners.


Get out the pitchforks!!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 08, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
A poster on the other forum claims to have gotten an email reply from Oppo regarding their sign up page for email notifications:

Yes, we will be informing customers when a purchase opportunity becomes available if they are signed up for the newsletter.

The players will likely be exclusive to our website for the first month of release then we will make them more widely available through our retail and custom installer partners.


Told us a week or two. I suspect the demand is pretty good, so Oppo is capitalizing on this. I suspect that may be why the price may be higher than Oppo initially suggested. :(
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 08, 2016, 01:05:04 PM
WHAT?!!  You mean assured high sales volume won't make the price go DOWN? ???
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on December 08, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
Time.... is.... slowly.....passing..... by..........
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on December 09, 2016, 05:12:55 PM
Posts on "the other" forum say Oppo rep has said pre-order start next week and another post says units begin shipping just a couple of days later, on Dec. 16th.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: lorjam on December 10, 2016, 03:21:03 AM
With the way distribution is handled in other parts of the world, information on release dates is all over the map.  Then there is the "*" on the Oppo website in reference to the December release date.

*-Projected.  Actual release date tentative and subject to changes.

Most comments about information from international distributors point to a release date within the next couple weeks, as well as a reply from OPPO USA to a posters query.  We'll see soon enough.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 10, 2016, 06:28:49 PM
"richlife69" and "ellisr63" are the winners of the Oppo UltraHD Blu-ray player contest. Congratulations to each of them!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on December 11, 2016, 02:21:19 AM
"richlife69" and "ellisr63" are the winners of the Oppo UltraHD Blu-ray player contest. Congratulations to each of them!

Congratulations to the lucky forum members and soon-to-be UDP-Oppo 203 owners. 

Mike - any official word when the players are actually expected to arrive at AV Science so you can start shipping out to those of us that placed early pre-orders, or at least when we can expect to start be getting messages from AV Science asking for our Credit Card info so that you can process our orders?  Also do you expect the AV Science price to be the same as the selling price on the Oppo Digital web site for their initial direct sales (but perhaps AVS will save us the Oppo shipping costs and in some cases sales tax that Oppo direct will charge)?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 11, 2016, 05:51:12 AM
No word yet. For many, no sales tax and yes free shipping. :) As for when we will get them, we are still waiting on Oppo.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 11, 2016, 07:27:39 PM
The Oppo 203 may have a similar chroma bug to that of the Samsung player. The Panasonic does not.   

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/dmpub700-201612114390.htm
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 11, 2016, 08:17:33 PM
The Oppo 203 may have a similar chroma bug to that of the Samsung player. The Panasonic does not.   

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/dmpub700-201612114390.htm

Sounds like it is being corrected prior to release - " According to a reliable industry source, it is this Chroma Bug 2020 bug (as coined by Spears) that’s causing OPPO to temporarily hold back the release of its UDP-203 UHD Blu-ray player while waiting for a firmware fix. "
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSjd on December 12, 2016, 03:05:53 AM
Congratulations to the lucky forum members and soon-to-be UDP-Oppo 203 owners. 

Mike - any official word when the players are actually expected to arrive at AV Science so you can start shipping out to those of us that placed early pre-orders, or at least when we can expect to start be getting messages from AV Science asking for our Credit Card info so that you can process our orders? Also do you expect the AV Science price to be the same as the selling price on the Oppo Digital web site for their initial direct sales (but perhaps AVS will save us the Oppo shipping costs and in some cases sales tax that Oppo direct will charge)?


The Oppo units will drop ship directly from the Oppo warehouse; however, dealer orders aren't expected to be released until 2-4 weeks after being released directly to consumers (ie. Oppo wants to get early bug reports directly from consumers to allow additional time for bug fixes before going mass distribution).  I've already sent out an email to my pre-order customers who did not provide a credit card number when placing their pre-order, to do so at this time to ensure their pre-orders are good to go when released by Oppo.   As Mike indicated, free shipping and in most cases, no tax on AVScience orders, however, although the cost is expected to be $499 - $599, final pricing won't be released by Oppo until likely the day they release direct ordering to consumers.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 12, 2016, 06:48:38 AM
does AVS take paypal?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSjd on December 12, 2016, 07:06:25 AM
Yes indeed we do take PayPal.   :)

If you provided your PayPal email address when placing your pre-order and indicated you wanted to use PayPal, then no further action is required, as you'll receive a PayPal invoice from AV Science when the units are ready to be released. If you did not originally indicate you wanted to use PayPal, then simply ensure we have your PayPal email address and indicate you want to use PayPal.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 12, 2016, 09:33:01 AM
Yes indeed we do take PayPal.   :)

If you provided your PayPal email address when placing your pre-order and indicated you wanted to use PayPal, then no further action is required, as you'll receive a PayPal invoice from AV Science when the units are ready to be released. If you did not originally indicate you wanted to use PayPal, then simply ensure we have your PayPal email address and indicate you want to use PayPal.

pm incoming!
Title: Price and details announced
Post by: Ron Jones on December 12, 2016, 09:48:04 AM
The Oppo web site has been updated today with the official price of $549 and there are some more details about the player.

Link:  http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/

As for Dolby Vision Oppo page now says: "Support for Dolby Vision will be available in the future via a firmware upgrade". The Oppo page does indicate the player can do HDR to SDR conversion and also ".... features support for all current SD, HD, and UHD resolutions, including 4K@60p, 4K@50p, 4K@30p, and 4K@24p using various color spaces such as PC RGB, Video RGB, YCbCr 4:4:4, 4:2:2, and 4:2:0."
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DavidHir on December 12, 2016, 10:04:03 AM
This thing is going to sell like hotcakes and the competition is in for a hurtin'. :P
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 12, 2016, 10:23:20 AM
This thing is going to sell like hotcakes and the competition is in for a hurtin'. :P

Hopefully the HDR to SDR conversion is as good or better than the Panasonic.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
There is nothing in the user manual regarding any option to select conversion of HDR to BT.2020 SDR or REC709 SDR.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 10:47:47 AM
And there appears to be no equivalent of the Panasonic player's HDR to SDR conversion dynamic range adjustment.   Maybe saving that for the 205?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 12, 2016, 10:51:25 AM
There is nothing in the user manual regarding any option to select conversion of HDR to BT.2020 SDR or REC709 SDR.

It's on page 49.  Hopefully it can also be switched using the HDR button on the remote.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DavidHir on December 12, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
I'm a beta tester for Oppo and the NDA is lifted today, so I can tell you the conversion is definitely there in the current beta firmware.  I haven't been able to test it much with my RS500, but I thought I saw Kris Deering say he's worked with them on it.  I'm sure it will be working excellent.

 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Confirmed in the FAQ:

Can the UDP-203 strip HDR metadata from 4K discs and media files while maintaining the BT.2020 color space?

Yes. For customers using projectors or older 4K displays that do not support HDR, yet still want to take advantage of the BT.2020 color space, the UDP-203 is capable of stripping the HDR metadata from the signal while still maintaining the BT.2020 color space output.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 10:59:13 AM
But no streaming service Apps:

Does the UDP-203 have any built-in streaming services such as Netflix or VUDU?   The UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach for disc and file playback, and it does not have any built-in video or music streaming apps. 


Based on that wording I wouldn't be counting on them being added later.  Not an issue for me; I am keeping my Samsung player for Netflix and Amazon.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 12, 2016, 11:35:35 AM
But no streaming service Apps:

Does the UDP-203 have any built-in streaming services such as Netflix or VUDU?   The UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach for disc and file playback, and it does not have any built-in video or music streaming apps. 


Based on that wording I wouldn't be counting on them being added later.  Not an issue for me; I am keeping my Samsung player for Netflix and Amazon.

Not an issue for me either - I don't stream content.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on December 12, 2016, 12:11:43 PM
Confirmed in the FAQ:

Can the UDP-203 strip HDR metadata from 4K discs and media files while maintaining the BT.2020 color space?

Yes. For customers using projectors or older 4K displays that do not support HDR, yet still want to take advantage of the BT.2020 color space, the UDP-203 is capable of stripping the HDR metadata from the signal while still maintaining the BT.2020 color space output.


SWEET!   ;D  (thx!)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 01:40:20 PM
While the current user manual does not show the option, there will be an additional option in the HDR menu to strip metadata and output BT.2020:

HDR [ Auto | On | Off | Strip Metadata ]

Whether that option is still Beta or in the production firmware release will wait to be seen.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 12, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
I just got a email from OPPO with a pre order link, shipping in 2-3 days.

Price 549$
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 12, 2016, 02:36:50 PM
I just got a email from OPPO with a pre order link, shipping in 2-3 days.

Price 549$

I got one too.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 12, 2016, 03:43:13 PM
While the current user manual does not show the option, there will be an additional option in the HDR menu to strip metadata and output BT.2020:

HDR [ Auto | On | Off | Strip Metadata ]

Whether that option is still Beta or in the production firmware release will wait to be seen.
Did they improve their graphic Menu for their streaming?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 12, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
Did they improve their graphic Menu for their streaming?

What streaming ?

" Does the UDP-203 have any built-in streaming services such as Netflix or VUDU?   The UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach for disc and file playback, and it does not have any built-in video or music streaming apps. "
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 12, 2016, 06:11:00 PM
What streaming ?

" Does the UDP-203 have any built-in streaming services such as Netflix or VUDU?   The UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach for disc and file playback, and it does not have any built-in video or music streaming apps. "
I am talking about streaming from my network...ie streaming flacs, and mkv files, or did they eliminate that feature?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 12, 2016, 06:15:48 PM
Looks like they are shipping already... I just saw on another forum where a member said he received notice his was shipping tonight!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 12, 2016, 06:44:21 PM
Looks like they are shipping already... I just saw on another forum where a member said he received notice his was shipping tonight!

At least we have time to read the manual and FAQs...   :-X
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 12, 2016, 07:53:02 PM
Several of us are waiting. At least others will go through the teething pains for us. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 12, 2016, 08:11:51 PM
And the order page already reports....Out of Stock.     
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on December 13, 2016, 05:25:46 AM
Even though I had the opportunity (i.e., got the mail yesterday) to do the pre-order from Oppo, I decided to wait a little and give my business to the AV Science store.  I'm not in the situation of "must have it now" for the UDP-203 as I already have the Samsung K8500 and I'm going to be out of town over the holidays.  So now I looking forward to Jan. 2017 to get a UDP-203 into my HT system and driving my JVC RS600.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: jkasanic on December 13, 2016, 06:55:17 AM
Never owned an Oppo as I've always thought of them as reference quality disc based players and I like to rip my media and store on my UnRAID server for ease of playback. With 4K now though and the inability (for the time being anyway) to rip discs, I could see myself moving in this direction once I upgrade my projector.  Just curious for those of you previous owners that may also stream media how playback of mkv's is with Oppo players (in particular 1:1 rips with HD audio like Atmos or DTS:X)? I just upgraded my media streamer in the hopes of eliminating some audio dropouts with Atmos content.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 13, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
Even though I had the opportunity (i.e., got the mail yesterday) to do the pre-order from Oppo, I decided to wait a little and give my business to the AV Science store.  I'm not in the situation of "must have it now" for the UDP-203 as I already have the Samsung K8500 and I'm going to be out of town over the holidays.  So now I looking forward to Jan. 2017 to get a UDP-203 into my HT system and driving my JVC RS600.

We appreciate that. And, I'm thinking that not getting one of the very first units gives Oppo time to fix some software problems that have already been reported. I already went through the initial " teething pains " with the Samsung. I'd prefer they fix bugs before I get the new 203. Sometimes it pays to wait just a little bit.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 13, 2016, 09:35:08 AM
Apparently some Retail Dealers in Australia already have their 203s and are shipping them out today. Is this normal to supply Dealers out of the USA with units before the USA Dealers?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 13, 2016, 10:08:40 AM
Apparently some Retail Dealers in Australia already have their 203s and are shipping them out today. Is this normal to supply Dealers out of the USA with units before the USA Dealers?

Who knows. I'm fine to wait - let them work out the software bugs.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on December 13, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
Several of us are waiting. At least others will go through the teething pains for us. :)

Got my e-mail invite from Oppo yesterday, ordered, and will have it secured!  However, I shouldn't have to worry about as much teething pain, as it'll be like so much other equipment (boxed up in storage for my new room, to be opened around March)!!!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 13, 2016, 02:15:59 PM
Got my e-mail invite from Oppo yesterday, ordered, and will have it secured!  However, I shouldn't have to worry about as much teething pain, as it'll be like so much other equipment (boxed up in storage for my new room, to be opened around March)!!!

Buying home theater equipment, and not using it for 90 days, is never a good idea. if you get equipment that is defective or " DOA ", usually you can get it replaced right away. Wait 90 days ( or even 30 days ), and it has to go in for warranty repair. Just saying.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on December 13, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Oh yeah....totally get that.  I'll probably hook it up to the 4K flat panel in the LR for a test, and check things out.  But, as far as tweaks, firmware updates (streaming, Dolby Vision), etc.  I'll not be in a rush.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 13, 2016, 04:43:25 PM
Oh yeah....totally get that.  I'll probably hook it up to the 4K flat panel in the LR for a test, and check things out.  But, as far as tweaks, firmware updates (streaming, Dolby Vision), etc.  I'll not be in a rush.

Good thing you are in no rush for Dolby Vision, since none of the UHD Blu Rays that I know of have Dolby Vision. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 13, 2016, 05:13:46 PM
I hope they will add streaming like on the 103D i have, as the oppo is the best streamer i have seen..  And i would hate having to go true all the streaming boxes out there and risk not finding one that performs as well as the OPPO.

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 13, 2016, 08:12:37 PM
We appreciate that. And, I'm thinking that not getting one of the very first units gives Oppo time to fix some software problems that have already been reported. I already went through the initial " teething pains " with the Samsung. I'd prefer they fix bugs before I get the new 203. Sometimes it pays to wait just a little bit.

That was exactly my thought -- was planning to wait until at least Jan. anyway. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 13, 2016, 08:20:32 PM
I guess I am not in too much of a hurry now. So for two years I have owned a projector capable of paying 4K BD's, I have waited six months for the Oppo to become available and now that it is finally shipping, I do not have a projector that can play 4K BD's. I sold my RS600.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on December 14, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
I guess I am not in too much of a hurry now. So for two years I have owned a projector capable of paying 4K BD's, I have waited six months for the Oppo to become available and now that it is finally shipping, I do not have a projector that can play 4K BD's. I sold my RS600.

Why in the heck would you do that?!  Are you doing the same as Craig (w/ the 4500)??   ???
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 14, 2016, 10:57:54 AM
Why in the heck would you do that?!  Are you doing the same as Craig (w/ the 4500)??   ???

Seriously considering it and knew I would need to sell the RS600 to do so. You never know how long it will take to sell a used projector, so I started a month early. It sold very quickly.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 14, 2016, 11:16:17 AM
Why in the heck would you do that?!  Are you doing the same as Craig (w/ the 4500)??   ???

Except I decided to keep my RS600 for right now. In fact, if I can figure out a way to keep the RS600 and get an RS4500, I just might try and pull that off. Might make for an interesting comparison / shootout !

Now I'm just biding my time, waiting for the new Oppo 203. And waiting for more 4K movies to be available on UHD Blu Ray. We are up to a whopping 163 titles now. 1/2 of which I'm not interested in.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: thxman on December 14, 2016, 11:36:41 AM
Seriously considering it and knew I would need to sell the RS600 to do so. You never know how long it will take to sell a used projector, so I started a month early. It sold very quickly.

Wow that is shocking to me (I thought your 600 was fairly golden).  Guess those "AVS discounts" must be HUGE to afford that machine (good for you & Craig tho)!   ;)

Wow tho... having BOTH a 600 & 4500 in my room... Nirvana!  :D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 14, 2016, 11:44:28 AM
Wow that is shocking to me (I thought your 600 was fairly golden).  Guess those "AVS discounts" must be HUGE to afford that machine (good for you & Craig tho)!   ;)

Wow tho... having BOTH a 600 & 4500 in my room... Nirvana!  :D

I might need to unload some climbing gear and for sure my VW600 !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DavidHir on December 14, 2016, 12:16:34 PM
Except I decided to keep my RS600 for right now. In fact, if I can figure out a way to keep the RS600 and get an RS4500, I just might try and pull that off. Might make for an interesting comparison / shootout !

Now I'm just biding my time, waiting for the new Oppo 203. And waiting for more 4K movies to be available on UHD Blu Ray. We are up to a whopping 163 titles now. 1/2 of which I'm not interested in.

The A/B comparison of the RS600 and RS4500 would be very interesting especially on a non-scaled 4K sourced UHD BD.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 15, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
The A/B comparison of the RS600 and RS4500 would be very interesting especially on a non-scaled 4K sourced UHD BD.

Now I just need to get an RS4500 and an Oppo 203 ! That's going to take a few weeks.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 15, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
Wow that is shocking to me (I thought your 600 was fairly golden).  Guess those "AVS discounts" must be HUGE to afford that machine (good for you & Craig tho)!   ;)

Wow tho... having BOTH a 600 & 4500 in my room... Nirvana!  :D

Probably not as big as you are thinking here, but usually come out okay, if sold in a year. Allows us to try out the new stuff and report how they compare.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 17, 2016, 08:40:46 AM
For those that use an A-lens, we have another choice for vertical stretch, since the 203 can do vertical stretch of 4K BD's as long as the disc does not prohibit it. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 17, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
reports are the 203 doesnt do HDR->SDR correctly
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on December 17, 2016, 03:56:37 PM
reports are the 203 doesnt do HDR->SDR correctly
I am sure that will be taken care of with the firmware updates.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 17, 2016, 07:33:46 PM
I am sure that will be taken care of with the firmware updates.

I hope they can do as good of a job as the Panny. Also I hope this is pretty high on Oppo's priority list.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 18, 2016, 12:33:50 PM
I hope they can do as good of a job as the Panny. Also I hope this is pretty high on Oppo's priority list.

I hope they will end up douing better than the Panasonic, and make a HDR convertion adjustment that dont mess with the white clipping point, but instead changes the SMPTE 2084 curve shape or break point.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: stridsvognen on December 19, 2016, 07:36:34 AM
Is there anyone that got the 203 that has compared the croma handling with HD blu ray, if its like the HDMI 1 or 2 out of the 103/105.?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on December 21, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
I hope they can do as good of a job as the Panny. Also I hope this is pretty high on Oppo's priority list.

I absolutely agree!  And, with my wait, Oppo, there's no rush to get it perfect!!!  Lol...you guys are are probably saying, "shut up!"....
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DavidHir on December 21, 2016, 08:35:13 PM
I have a feeling the fix will happen faster than some realize.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: alangouger on December 23, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
I hope they give us the forced 24P output like they did on the previous players. Some projectors take forever re syncing from 60p to 24P HDR.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 26, 2016, 04:53:42 AM
so good news and bad news...

good news is the wife somehow went online and pre-orded a opp 203 for me..and it was under the tree as the surprise of a lifetime!!! (yup shes a keeper)

bad is I wont be supporting AVS science :? but im sure I will be buying somthing from you at some point

hooked it up last night....and ran a few movie demos...so far so good!  I cant wait for HDR stripping to be corrected...cause some movies are so dark...I need to tweak a bit...but I think the oppo upscales better than the sammy...and it feels sooo good to finally have a quality player in the rack again!

merry xmas!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 26, 2016, 08:59:05 AM
Congrats are definitely in order!  And, yes, she is a keeper! 

Do enjoy your OPPO 203 and spare a thought now and then for all of us who are vicariously enjoying your enjoyment -- albeit with a "hint" of jealousy...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 26, 2016, 09:06:27 AM
Congrats are definitely in order!  And, yes, she is a keeper! 

Do enjoy your OPPO 203 and spare a thought now and then for all of us who are vicariously enjoying your enjoyment -- albeit with a "hint" of jealousy...

Thanks!!  Hopefully tonight I can tweak it a bit more and runs. Full movie :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 27, 2016, 10:13:17 AM
Numerous reports in the other forum of the Oppo not being able to play some UHD discs, video and/or audio stuttering, and complete lockup.   Suggestions made to wash the disc, even before first play?   

Never had any issue with the Samsung player even with my fingerprints on the disc.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 27, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
Numerous reports in the other forum of the Oppo not being able to play some UHD discs, video and/or audio stuttering, and complete lockup.   Suggestions made to wash the disc, even before first play?   

Never had any issue with the Samsung player even with my fingerprints on the disc.

That doesn't sound too good. Hopefully the beta test phase ends soon.  :o

Maybe it should ship with a disc cleaner - (http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/51641.jpg)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 27, 2016, 11:28:11 AM
I think the disc washing is just a placebo effect.  At this point, just ejecting and reinserting the disc probably works just as well.

Maybe there is a problem with the laser in some units, or a firmware update is needed to fine tune read error correction algorithms.   Could be anything.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 27, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
Doesn't seen like everyone has this problem, so I would hope a firmware update solves it fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 27, 2016, 12:04:36 PM
problem does not exist here
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 27, 2016, 12:35:37 PM
Numerous reports in the other forum of the Oppo not being able to play some UHD discs, video and/or audio stuttering, and complete lockup.   Suggestions made to wash the disc, even before first play?   

Never had any issue with the Samsung player even with my fingerprints on the disc.

I think the disc washing is just a placebo effect.  At this point, just ejecting and reinserting the disc probably works just as well.

Maybe there is a problem with the laser in some units, or a firmware update is needed to fine tune read error correction algorithms.   Could be anything.

Actually, I've had this problem with every CD/DVD/BR/UHD BR player I've owned.  That includes the current Samsung which is only a few weeks old.  The solution, as you suggest, is often to open the drive, remove and re-insert the disc.  That probably causes the laser to re-alighn, so end of problem.  I have yet to wash a disc with the Samsung.

Another not so innocuous fix (especially for loud drive noise when playing) is to simply rub the disc edge all the way around firmly to clean or burnish any roughness (an actual reported manufacturing issue).  That worked for two previously problem free discs when used in the Samsung.

So I don't think these are "placebo" effects.  I think they are real, but easily resolved.

As for the OPPO (yes, I'm still waiting  :) ), out of the thousands and thousands of "first day" ship players, there really are only a few hundred complaints most of which are generally similar.  Most of these are expected to be resolved with firmware.  It's far to early in the product cycle to start the blame game.  If you are an early adopter, yes, you may get the "early adopter blues".  But most don't and almost all will get resolved with the first FW update. 

I think it's admirable of OPPO to avoid slamming out "fixes" without ensuring that they are actually fixes.  Of course, that is exactly why so many people rushed to the gate to get a 203 as soon as they were available -- the anticipation of a quality product and support.  Sort of comical, isn't it?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 27, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
I've had one or two lockups with the Samsung 4K player so far, one of which forced me to pull the power cord on it, to get it to do anything. No problems yet with the Panasonic, but I've only had it a week !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on December 28, 2016, 06:28:48 AM
so good news and bad news...

good news is the wife somehow went online and pre-orded a opp 203 for me..and it was under the tree as the surprise of a lifetime!!! (yup shes a keeper)

bad is I wont be supporting AVS science :? but im sure I will be buying somthing from you at some point

hooked it up last night....and ran a few movie demos...so far so good!  I cant wait for HDR stripping to be corrected...cause some movies are so dark...I need to tweak a bit...but I think the oppo upscales better than the sammy...and it feels sooo good to finally have a quality player in the rack again!

merry xmas!

I have canceled your order. Hopefully Oppo gets the issues resolved quickly.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 28, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
I have canceled your order. Hopefully Oppo gets the issues resolved quickly.

Thanks Mike. I kinda feel guilty not buying one here. But hey a present is a present hahah.

So far I have had zero issues (other than the wrong hdr stripping). Knock on wood
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on December 29, 2016, 09:13:39 PM
Love the wife and tip the hat to AVS -- not much more you can do.    :-* :(

On the side, we watched the BR of Batman vs Superman last night (note, not the UHD) and had a total hang during the big Superman/monster battle.  Just stopped.  No remote, no front panel control until a very slow response to the Power button shut it down just before I pulled the plug.  Lost all location info, but after jumping to that scene again, played right through. 

Did not like the movie and will be returning the Samsung next week...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on December 30, 2016, 08:57:12 AM
Love the wife and tip the hat to AVS -- not much more you can do.    :-* :(

On the side, we watched the BR of Batman vs Superman last night (note, not the UHD) and had a total hang during the big Superman/monster battle.  Just stopped.  No remote, no front panel control until a very slow response to the Power button shut it down just before I pulled the plug.  Lost all location info, but after jumping to that scene again, played right through. 

Did not like the movie and will be returning the Samsung next week...

That is irritating. Sounds like the movie was irritating too ( I have no interest in that title ).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 30, 2016, 10:01:03 AM
Ive watched probably 6 UHD discs (and more with just demoing them) and 10 BD and have had ZERO pauses, skips, dropouts etc...

maybe I am a lucky one
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: jkasanic on December 30, 2016, 01:59:23 PM
Never owned an Oppo as I've always thought of them as reference quality disc based players and I like to rip my media and store on my UnRAID server for ease of playback. With 4K now though and the inability (for the time being anyway) to rip discs, I could see myself moving in this direction once I upgrade my projector.  Just curious for those of you previous owners that may also stream media how playback of mkv's is with Oppo players (in particular 1:1 rips with HD audio like Atmos or DTS:X)? I just upgraded my media streamer in the hopes of eliminating some audio dropouts with Atmos content.

Well, guess I should've thought of this but since the Oppo has an optical drive, Cinavia is in effect which makes this basically useless as a media streamer.  Oh well...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on December 31, 2016, 05:35:16 AM
so IM thinking...this machine is sooo much better with HDR than the samsung (it crushed blacks badly) I may not even need the HDR-->SDR stripping.....time will tell when the firmware comes out...but so far the picture is gorgeous

and the upscaling is outstanding
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on December 31, 2016, 10:44:58 AM
I think the disc washing is just a placebo effect.  At this point, just ejecting and reinserting the disc probably works just as well.

Maybe there is a problem with the laser in some units, or a firmware update is needed to fine tune read error correction algorithms.   Could be anything.
Huh... Oppo responding to an owner that has playback issues with some UHD discs...

We have logged your observations, but it is likely that we are already working on firmware that will address the issues that you have observed, as we are aware of some issues with the error correction used with UHD Blu-rays that will result in the type of errors that you have observed.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 02, 2017, 03:44:16 PM
I received my OPPO 203 player early on upon it's issuance. I turn the player on and the OPPO menu screen appears.  However, when I start a disc (whether it be blu-ray or 4K) the initial studio trade mark sound is truncated so that I hear only the last few bars of the music.  The video does not appear at all...all this is before getting to the disc menu.  I think I'm also having problems with the 4K handshake to my JVC DLA-RS500U projector which seems to delay revving up for the 4K video/sound signal.

I'm having a similar problem with the projector and 4K NETFLIX (which I started a discussion on in the projector section).

Is this a OPPO problem and/or a JVC problem?  With both NETFLIX and OPPO problems, I'm ready to return the OPPO (if they take returns) and reduce my NETFLIX subscription to eliminate 4K so that, at least, I'll be able to watch NETFLIX via the e-shift of the projector.

Any suggestions would be greatly appeciated.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 02, 2017, 04:10:00 PM
I received my OPPO 203 player early on upon it's issuance. I turn the player on and the OPPO menu screen appears.  However, when I start a disc (whether it be blu-ray or 4K) the initial studio trade mark sound is truncated so that I hear only the last few bars of the music.  The video does not appear at all...all this is before getting to the disc menu.  I think I'm also having problems with the 4K handshake to my JVC DLA-RS500U projector which seems to delay revving up for the 4K video/sound signal.

I'm having a similar problem with the projector and 4K NETFLIX (which I started a discussion on in the projector section).

Is this a OPPO problem and/or a JVC problem?  With both NETFLIX and OPPO problems, I'm ready to return the OPPO (if they take returns) and reduce my NETFLIX subscription to eliminate 4K so that, at least, I'll be able to watch NETFLIX via the e-shift of the projector.

Any suggestions would be greatly appeciated.
Have you tried the 2 HDMI cable trick...where one HDMI cable goes to the AVP/AVR (for audio), and the other goes to your projector?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 02, 2017, 06:15:46 PM
Have you tried the 2 HDMI cable trick...where one HDMI cable goes to the AVP/AVR (for audio), and the other goes to your projector?

ellisr63,
...that's how I have it set up...the OPPO is 4k HDMI'd directly to the JVC HDMI 1 input.  I have the Anthem Statement D2v3d surround processor and the OPPO HDMI audio out put is connected to the Anthem.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 02, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
ellisr63,
...that's how I have it set up...the OPPO is 4k HDMI'd directly to the JVC HDMI 1 input.  I have the Anthem Statement D2v3d surround processor and the OPPO HDMI audio out put is connected to the Anthem.
What HDMI cable are you using... I ask this because I have seen elsewhere that the cable can make a difference in working with the Oppo.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 02, 2017, 11:04:04 PM
What HDMI cable are you using... I ask this because I have seen elsewhere that the cable can make a difference in working with the Oppo.

ellisr63,

I'm using Blue Jeans 4K cables which, from what I've read, have passed all tests pertaining to 4K signals.  Believe me, I've purchased enough different 4K cables in the last few months to open a cable shop!

Note:  ...from the projector discussion re: JVC's...it appears that the JVC's are having handshake problems going from, let's say, DVD and blu-ray to 4K...there are approx. 15 second delays in the JVC's getting the message.

May be, one of these days, JVC and/or OPPO will find a solution to these problems.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 03, 2017, 07:43:36 AM
In the Oppo you should be able to force all output to be 24Hz.  And force all output at 4K.   That should help with the JVC projector sync times by avoiding unneeded resolution/frame rate changes.

I intend to try that when i get my Oppo since I have no real 60Hz content to play.   The Oppo just like the Samsung player will try to send the menu screen at 4K60.

The JVC handshake is will known by everyone with a 2016 JVC projector.  I don't think there is anything to be done about it but live with it.   As soon as I hear audio, I hit the pause button and wait for the video sync to complete.  When I see a picture I resume playback.

Edit:  There was a recent post in the other forum that Oppo replied to a member that they would change the default resolution for the menu screen from 60Hz to 24Hz or 30Hz.   I hope it is 24Hz or configurable.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 03, 2017, 09:06:12 AM
In the Oppo you should be able to force all output to be 24Hz.  And force all output at 4K.   That should help with the JVC projector sync times by avoiding unneeded resolution/frame rate changes.

I intend to try that when i get my Oppo since I have no real 60Hz content to play.   The Oppo just like the Samsung player will try to send the menu screen at 4K60.

The JVC handshake is will known by everyone with a 2016 JVC projector.  I don't think there is anything to be done about it but live with it.   As soon as I hear audio, I hit the pause button and wait for the video sync to complete.  When I see a picture I resume playback.

Edit:  There was a recent post in the other forum that Oppo replied to a member that they would change the default resolution for the menu screen from 60Hz to 24Hz or 30Hz.   I hope it is 24Hz or configurable.

cjake,

..so..what do I set the out put on...presently I have it on auto...should I change it to 4K and would this allow both 24 Hz and 4K to automatically resolve the issue?...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 03, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
In the Oppo you should be able to force all output to be 24Hz.  And force all output at 4K.   That should help with the JVC projector sync times by avoiding unneeded resolution/frame rate changes.

I intend to try that when i get my Oppo since I have no real 60Hz content to play.   The Oppo just like the Samsung player will try to send the menu screen at 4K60.

The JVC handshake is will known by everyone with a 2016 JVC projector.  I don't think there is anything to be done about it but live with it.   As soon as I hear audio, I hit the pause button and wait for the video sync to complete.  When I see a picture I resume playback.

Edit:  There was a recent post in the other forum that Oppo replied to a member that they would change the default resolution for the menu screen from 60Hz to 24Hz or 30Hz.   I hope it is 24Hz or configurable.

Samsung fixed the menu issue via firmware, and Oppo no doubt will too. Seems to be part of the 4K Blu Ray player manufacturer's learning curve !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 03, 2017, 07:02:47 PM
cjake,

..so..what do I set the out put on...presently I have it on auto...should I change it to 4K and would this allow both 24 Hz and 4K to automatically resolve the issue?...
Oppo just released new beta firmware that may help.

Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.

The firmware update can be downloaded from here...

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx

You could also try setting Custom Resolution to "UHD 24Hz"
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 04, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
Oppo just released new beta firmware that may help.

Resolved an issue where the Home Menu was fixed to a 60 Hz frame rate.

The firmware update can be downloaded from here...

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx

You could also try setting Custom Resolution to "UHD 24Hz"

Thanks, cjake
I emailed OPPO and received a call that the disc would be mailed to me today.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 05, 2017, 05:06:37 PM
Never mind the suggestion to set Custom Resolution to "UHD 24Hz".   A prominent beta tester on the other forum's Oppo thread reported that this setting has its own set of issues.   Including outputting 1080P/60 at 25 or 30 Hz.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: gadgtfreek on January 05, 2017, 06:37:11 PM
FYI, I like HDR Strip a lot better with 1229B, as long as you increase brightness +8 as recommended.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ron Jones on January 06, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
I see the AV Science store has today starting filling their orders for the Oppo UDP203 players.  It will be interesting to see what version of the firmware comes with these or if there is a new official firmware release offered by Oppo within the next week to go along with the player's wider release thru their retail distribution channel.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 06, 2017, 02:10:04 PM
I don't know what the firmware is these ship with, but I'm sure there will be regular updates to get everything dialed in over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 06, 2017, 02:19:35 PM
Good news. After having owned a projector that can play 4K BD's for two years, I have a 4K player headed to me. Bad news. Sold my JVC RS600, so do not own a projector with 4K ability. :( Hopefully only one month to go.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 06, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
If the current beta firmware version, 1229b, is made official release by the time we get our units, the unit will automatically check for the new firmware to install.

If 1229b is still beta, then we will need to download the the beta firmware and install it.  There are so many fixes in 1229b that it is a must to install.   I doubt there will be new beta firmware so soon after 1229b but you never know.

These units should come with current official firmware version 1209 unlike the early shipments.  If they don't and have have the original firmware I would just skip the update to 1209 and install the 1229b firmware instead.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 07, 2017, 06:12:57 AM
just installed the beta...and tried strip meta....and WOW the picture is out of this world...using craig peers guide for 2020 SDR....i didnt find a need to raise contrast or brightness as oppo suggests

deadpool is still a bit on the dark side....but Angry birds, pacific rim and the martian are all incredible (only ones ive tried so far)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: gadgtfreek on January 07, 2017, 06:58:09 AM
There is a current bug in HDR Strip and HDR Off that causes banding, but Kris Deering mentioned the gamma being wrong still, and I know improper gamma adjustment in a cal can cause banding. Whatever is going on in HDR to SDR conversion right now still needs some tweaking. Overall, I think it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 07, 2017, 07:19:54 AM
There is a current bug in HDR Strip and HDR Off that causes banding, but Kris Deering mentioned the gamma being wrong still, and I know improper gamma adjustment in a cal can cause banding. Whatever is going on in HDR to SDR conversion right now still needs some tweaking. Overall, I think it looks pretty good.

good to know...yes it looks good so at least we are in the correct direction :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 07, 2017, 09:15:54 AM
just installed the beta...and tried strip meta....and WOW the picture is out of this world...using craig peers guide for 2020 SDR....i didnt find a need to raise contrast or brightness as oppo suggests

deadpool is still a bit on the dark side....but Angry birds, pacific rim and the martian are all incredible (only ones ive tried so far)

That's great news.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 07, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Good to see that folks are actually doing the upgrade to the beta 1229b.  In the OPPO Owners on the other forum, lots of people are expressing hesitation to upgrade -- especially those who have not seen  a lot of the reported issues.  The thought being, "If it ain't broke (for them), don't fix it."  The thing is, even if they (or you) don't see it, it's very definitely broken.  The fix is a good thing BEFORE you encounter the problem. 

But I've always tended to be proactive and never bought into that "ain't broke, don't fix it" mind set.  Gotta have a sense of adventure...   :-X
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 07, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Good to see that folks are actually doing the upgrade to the beta 1229b.  In the OPPO Owners on the other forum, lots of people are expressing hesitation to upgrade -- especially those who have not seen  a lot of the reported issues.  The thought being, "If it ain't broke (for them), don't fix it."  The thing is, even if they (or you) don't see it, it's very definitely broken.  The fix is a good thing BEFORE you encounter the problem. 

But I've always tended to be proactive and never bought into that "ain't broke, don't fix it" mind set.  Gotta have a sense of adventure...   :-X
I cringe at doing firmwares...ever since a Play Station I had bricked from a Firmware update (luckily I had decided to buy an extended replacement warranty).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 07, 2017, 10:07:08 AM
I cringe at doing firmwares...ever since a Play Station I had bricked from a Firmware update (luckily I had decided to buy an extended replacement warranty).

I nearly bricked my Sim Lumis Host trying to do a firmware update. If I had, I would have had to ship it to Florida. Check out shipping costs on a $30K / 30 lb. projector some time.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 07, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
I nearly bricked my Sim Lumis Host trying to do a firmware update. If I had, I would have had to ship it to Florida. Check out shipping costs on a $30K / 30 lb. projector some time.
The bad thing is that some products force you to do the Firmware, and if it bricks it and you are out of warranty. Lucky for you that you didn't brick it! I think that if the firmware bricks a unit the Manufacturer should have to replace it free.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 07, 2017, 09:56:30 PM
Get my Oppo 203 on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 08, 2017, 04:50:13 AM
so I can honestly say my picture from the rs400 has NEVER looked better...thats dfor both BD and UHD BD (sdr 2020 using strip)

the colors are outstanding ...the clarity is top notch...and of course i still swear ATMOS is better,....firmware went without a hitch..I am completely pleased with the 203 (even moreso than when I had the 103) and I am confident they will nail down the rest of the tweaking of the strip feature.

another great product from oppo.....too many people expected 1000% perfection from the launch...and normally I would have been one of them...but have come to realize nothing can be 100% perfect until its in thousands of hands...this being no exception

Mike your gonna love it.....so much nicer than the samsung k8500  in all regards
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: gadgtfreek on January 08, 2017, 09:04:35 AM
I did not see any HDR Strip banding last night on Mag 7, like I did on Bourne, but I did have audio blips ad lip sync problems (required me to rewind a few seconds to resync). I reported to Oppo this morning via email.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 09, 2017, 05:15:47 PM
I got mine today! Now I need to get a new HDMI cable for the AVR to the FP as it will not work for me with the Oppo. I did have some little problems with the unit, but they all settled themselves out with a reboot. I have verified that the Oppo player plays fine when hooked up directly to the AVR..hence why I just need a new 15' HDMI cable. Is there any inexpensive cable that is known to work?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 09, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
I got mine today! Now I need to get a new HDMI cable for the AVR to the FP as it will not work for me with the Oppo. I did have some little problems with the unit, but they all settled themselves out with a reboot. I have verified that the Oppo player plays fine when hooked up directly to the AVR..hence why I just need a new 15' HDMI cable. Is there any inexpensive cable that is known to work?

Define " inexpensive " ? See the HDMI cable thread - although I'm using a 16' Monster Black Platinum cable myself.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 09, 2017, 09:52:50 PM
Ok, I'll 'fess up -- received my 203 a few days ago but have been waiting for ellisr63 to get his.  I've been testing all I can and trying to get it setup for routine use.  This post is basically a copy of what I'm posting to the Owners thread on the other forum.  Add me to the list of those who love this amazing device. 

The OPPO worked fine from the start, but I played it safe at first and only played BRs and music.  (And now, for the first time, I understand the fantastic experience of SACD!) 

Then I tried a UHD.  Hit Play, the screen went blank, the remote was unresponsive and I said s---!  But the Power button on the box did turn it off.  When I powered back up, I immediately went into Settings > Video, changed the Auto to 4.2.0 and turned HDR Off.  Then the UHD disc played just fine.  Began playing around with the Video settings and didn't see any other issues including use of 4.2.2 and 4.4.4 at 12 bits -- even with HDR on (washed out image because my TV is not HDR).  At some point I realized I had again set the Video back to Auto and yet all was working fine.  I quit and went to bed at that point.

Next day I ran through all 7 of my UHD titles with no issues and played with settings on the OPPO and my TV to get a satisfactory pic (not great, just satisfactory).  Today I tested the limits per Bob Pariseau with UHD Independence Day and again found no issues.  (Custom, UHD 60, both YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB with 12 bit.  Didn't all do wonders with PQ, but the HDMI cables never failed.)  I haven't had any handshake issues at all since that first time.  I also found the Strip Metadata and with that was able to get to BT.2020 and coaxed really good PQ out of my TV -- probably the best I'm going to get with a TV that doesn't support HDR. 

Actually, I might be able to do more with special tweaks found in the Vizio M-Series thread, but frankly the PQ is good and those special settings would require using two different TV inputs for bluray and UHD.  I have pretty much have decided that I will get a 2017 LG LCD (bright room) since LG has announced they are going to support all HDR formats.  When I get that, I'll tweak the OPPO to the max, but for now I'm just going to enjoy my system(s). 

BTW, I used the same data chain that I had with the Samsung K8500 -- just set the OPPO cable aside as a spare.  I use Monoprice Certified Premium cables -- a 6 foot from OPPO to AVR and a 15 foot from AVR to my Vizio tv.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 10, 2017, 07:09:36 AM
I did not see any HDR Strip banding last night on Mag 7, like I did on Bourne, but I did have audio blips ad lip sync problems (required me to rewind a few seconds to resync). I reported to Oppo this morning via email.

I have yet to see any banding...and I have been on the lookout for it.

Watched The revenant again last night...jiminy frickin christmas!!  Pacific rim and lucy are nice and all...but NOTHING touches the revenant for PQ  holy cow!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 10, 2017, 08:02:30 AM
You guys are killing me. :) Oppo is out for delivery. Check. 4K BD's sitting here waiting. Check. 4K projector. Nope, sold it. Will be watching 1080P BD's for a while on an RS45. :(
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 10, 2017, 08:05:16 AM
Ok, I'll 'fess up -- received my 203 a few days ago but have been waiting for ellisr63 to get his.  I've been testing all I can and trying to get it setup for routine use.  This post is basically a copy of what I'm posting to the Owners thread on the other forum.  Add me to the list of those who love this amazing device. 

The OPPO worked fine from the start, but I played it safe at first and only played BRs and music.  (And now, for the first time, I understand the fantastic experience of SACD!) 

Then I tried a UHD.  Hit Play, the screen went blank, the remote was unresponsive and I said s---!  But the Power button on the box did turn it off.  When I powered back up, I immediately went into Settings > Video, changed the Auto to 4.2.0 and turned HDR Off.  Then the UHD disc played just fine.  Began playing around with the Video settings and didn't see any other issues including use of 4.2.2 and 4.4.4 at 12 bits -- even with HDR on (washed out image because my TV is not HDR).  At some point I realized I had again set the Video back to Auto and yet all was working fine.  I quit and went to bed at that point.

Next day I ran through all 7 of my UHD titles with no issues and played with settings on the OPPO and my TV to get a satisfactory pic (not great, just satisfactory).  Today I tested the limits per Bob Pariseau with UHD Independence Day and again found no issues.  (Custom, UHD 60, both YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB with 12 bit.  Didn't all do wonders with PQ, but the HDMI cables never failed.)  I haven't had any handshake issues at all since that first time.  I also found the Strip Metadata and with that was able to get to BT.2020 and coaxed really good PQ out of my TV -- probably the best I'm going to get with a TV that doesn't support HDR. 

Actually, I might be able to do more with special tweaks found in the Vizio M-Series thread, but frankly the PQ is good and those special settings would require using two different TV inputs for bluray and UHD.  I have pretty much have decided that I will get a 2017 LG LCD (bright room) since LG has announced they are going to support all HDR formats.  When I get that, I'll tweak the OPPO to the max, but for now I'm just going to enjoy my system(s). 

BTW, I used the same data chain that I had with the Samsung K8500 -- just set the OPPO cable aside as a spare.  I use Monoprice Certified Premium cables -- a 6 foot from OPPO to AVR and a 15 foot from AVR to my Vizio tv.
If you have some way to check the input signal status in the Vizio, it should report 4K24 4:2:2 12 bit now when you play a UHD Blu Ray.    You don't have to force 4K60 like you did with the Samsung player.   UHD Blu Ray is 24Hz and should be displayed that way.

In the Oppo, press the remote's Info button for several seconds to get the long read out.   Scroll down to see the output format and resolution.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 10, 2017, 08:11:44 AM
You guys are killing me. :) Oppo is out for delivery. Check. 4K BD's sitting here waiting. Check. 4K projector. Nope, sold it. Will be watching 1080P BD's for a while on an RS45. :(
Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.   (Hopefully not affected by the snow storm.)

Clear prime shelf space location for Oppo; Check.   
Move Samsung player from AVR Blu Ray HDMI input to Media Player input; Check.   
Remove Integral from device chain; Check.
Download and copy Beta firmware file to empty USB stick; Check.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 10, 2017, 10:17:55 AM
Define " inexpensive " ? See the HDMI cable thread - although I'm using a 16' Monster Black Platinum cable myself.
I ended up going to BB last night and picked up a 12' HDMI cable for $64 out the door. I hooked it up and we watched the Magnificent 7 in 4K... I have to say the picture was great! I am sure i still need to do some calibrating as the video was HDR, but it seemed a little dark during the dark scenes (Losing detail).

After we watched Magnificent 7... I put on the new Jason Bourne movie, and it paused about 1/4 into the movie. I stopped the movie and started again and it froze again at the same spot. Will having a wrong setting cause this, or is the cable i got still not good enough?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 10, 2017, 10:34:59 AM
Oppo has replicated some of the playback issues.   They are working on improving disc reading.    Until then, try cleaning the disc.  ::)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 10, 2017, 10:51:30 AM
If you have some way to check the input signal status in the Vizio, it should report 4K24 4:2:2 12 bit now when you play a UHD Blu Ray.    You don't have to force 4K60 like you did with the Samsung player.   UHD Blu Ray is 24Hz and should be displayed that way.

In the Oppo, press the remote's Info button for several seconds to get the long read out.   Scroll down to see the output format and resolution.

Vizio is receiving exactly what the OPPO is sending.  For the concert DVD I'm watching right now, that's 30Hz at 4K (3840x2169) upscaled from 720x480.  My Output Res is set to Custom with UHD 24Hz, Color Space 4:4:4, Color Depth at 12 bit (need it or not).  So no issues with my setup. 

For all it's limitations, the Vizio is capable of great PQ.  I'm using the 4K@60Hz input because that is the only way to get 4K resolution.  That means it is capable of handling up to 60Hz, not that it MUST have 60Hz.  I use a Custom 4K Picture mode that is near (but slightly adjusted for UHD) the normal  "Calibrated" mode.  With this and the OPPO settings, I can watch Directv, DVDs, Blurays and UHD disks without further adjustments and with excellent PQ.  Since this tv has a short life expectancy in my HT, I've decided not to do excess tweaking for UHD that would also require using a separate Input on the Vizio for Directv or BR.  That would not be very family friendly even if I was willing to keep constantly adjusting things.  When I get a new HDR capable TV, I'll "fix" things.

Meanwhile, for the first time in six months I've reached a relative status quo.  Not that I may not "play" with any of my components, but my family settings are set, utilize pretty close to the best that the 203 and TV have to offer, and are better than anything we've had previously. 

I guess you could say, I'm fat and happy.   ;D  And loving it.   :-*

Special thanks to AV Science for a marvelous contest and to ellisr63 for his helpful info about music that we shared offline. 

And speaking of ellisr63, while I don't suspect you cables as the cause of the JB pause, I would suggest getting that 15' Certified Premium cable from Monoprice that I'm using.  For $10, it's worth testing and for having as a backup (or for later additions).

Lynyrd Skynyrd 30 Years Live "Freebird"!   8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 10, 2017, 11:03:12 AM
Vizio is receiving exactly what the OPPO is sending.  For the concert DVD I'm watching right now, that's 30Hz at 4K (3840x2169) upscaled from 720x480.  My Output Res is set to Custom with UHD 24Hz, Color Space 4:4:4, Color Depth at 12 bit (need it or not).  So no issues with my setup. 

For all it's limitations, the Vizio is capable of great PQ.  I'm using the 4K@60Hz input because that is the only way to get 4K resolution.  That means it is capable of handling up to 60Hz, not that it MUST have 60Hz.  I use a Custom 4K Picture mode that is near (but slightly adjusted for UHD) the normal  "Calibrated" mode.  With this and the OPPO settings, I can watch Directv, DVDs, Blurays and UHD disks without further adjustments and with excellent PQ.  Since this tv has a short life expectancy in my HT, I've decided not to do excess tweaking for UHD that would also require using a separate Input on the Vizio for Directv or BR.  That would not be very family friendly even if I was willing to keep constantly adjusting things.  When I get a new HDR capable TV, I'll "fix" things.

Meanwhile, for the first time in six months I've reached a relative status quo.  Not that I may not "play" with any of my components, but my family settings are set, utilize pretty close to the best that the 203 and TV have to offer, and are better than anything we've had previously. 

I guess you could say, I'm fat and happy.   ;D  And loving it.   :-*

Special thanks to AV Science for a marvelous contest and to ellisr63 for his helpful info about music that we shared offline. 

And speaking of ellisr63, while I don't suspect you cables as the cause of the JB pause, I would suggest getting that 15' Certified Premium cable from Monoprice that I'm using.  For $10, it's worth testing and for having as a backup (or for later additions).

Lynyrd Skynyrd 30 Years Live "Freebird"!   8)

Is this the cable you are using?
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15430

Thanks, I just ordered one, and it will be here in a couple of days. I will see how it works out.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 10, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
My Output Res is set to Custom with UHD 24Hz, Color Space 4:4:4, Color Depth at 12 bit (need it or not).  So no issues with my setup. 
I thought the issue using the Samsung was that you had to disable 24fps and send 4K60 4:2:0 to the Vizio since it wouldn't accept 4:4:4.    I would have thought setting Color Space to 4:2:2 in the Oppo would be a better option for the Vizio. 

Of course the Oppo might still be sending 4:2:2 if handshaking between the Oppo and the Vizio resulted in the Oppo determining that the Vizio won't accept 4:4:4.   The Oppo is a lot smarter about this than the Samsung.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 10, 2017, 11:16:30 AM
Yes, that's it. 

FYI, another minor glitch (maybe like your "pause"?).  This was with a dvd -- Neil Young Heart of Gold.  Played through the ad intro stuff, let me setup DTS 5.1, started and then hung with the Paramount mountain just forming.  Dead.  Remote seemed unresponsive.  Though remote Power didn't work, but by the time I got up to try the box Power, the 203 did power down.  Restarted and everything has been fine since.  Watching/listening now. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 10, 2017, 11:31:00 AM
I thought the issue using the Samsung was that you had to disable 24fps and send 4K60 4:2:0 to the Vizio since it wouldn't accept 4:4:4.    I would have thought setting Color Space to 4:2:2 in the Oppo would be a better option for the Vizio. 

Of course the Oppo might still be sending 4:2:2 if handshaking between the Oppo and the Vizio resulted in the Oppo determining that the Vizio won't accept 4:4:4.

Honestly, I don't remember about the Samsung.  I played with it only minimally to get a picture before I took it out to return.  But I do "think" I output RGB Video 4:4:4 to try to match the input of the Vizio.  With the Samsung there were few config options compared to OPPO.  It seemed pretty much hit and miss as to whether you could find matching capabilities. 

I'll take a look again at my OPPO/Vizio info later with UHD and update.  Basically, the best thing is that the OPPO now seems on cruise control despite my having Custom settings.  Whatever I put in, viewing is fine.  Since working to get it set, I haven't check the Info at both ends for every disc I've put in.  (That would be a good thing in my view.   ;) )
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 10, 2017, 12:46:44 PM
I ended up going to BB last night and picked up a 12' HDMI cable for $64 out the door. I hooked it up and we watched the Magnificent 7 in 4K... I have to say the picture was great! I am sure i still need to do some calibrating as the video was HDR, but it seemed a little dark during the dark scenes (Losing detail).

After we watched Magnificent 7... I put on the new Jason Bourne movie, and it paused about 1/4 into the movie. I stopped the movie and started again and it froze again at the same spot. Will having a wrong setting cause this, or is the cable i got still not good enough?

magnificent 7 is mastered very dark..the bluray is the same
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 10, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Honestly, I don't remember about the Samsung.  I played with it only minimally to get a picture before I took it out to return.  But I do "think" I output RGB Video 4:4:4 to try to match the input of the Vizio.  With the Samsung there were few config options compared to OPPO.  It seemed pretty much hit and miss as to whether you could find matching capabilities. 

I'll take a look again at my OPPO/Vizio info later with UHD and update.  Basically, the best thing is that the OPPO now seems on cruise control despite my having Custom settings.  Whatever I put in, viewing is fine.  Since working to get it set, I haven't check the Info at both ends for every disc I've put in.  (That would be a good thing in my view.   ;) )
I have noticed that with the 203 the remote is not very responsive and is susceptible to locking up the Oppo if you are noy patient enough. I started to use the Oppo Media app on my Android tablet and found that with the App it sees my Plex, HDTV tuners, and NAS. I tried to select Music from the menu on the 203, but it appears that is only for using a Music CD, as it doesn't show my NAS, or other Media locations.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 10, 2017, 05:48:15 PM
When I opened Music, I found the player as you said, and the USB stick (stub rather) which is plugged in the rear. 

Photos and Movies does the same.

Network finds my laptop and everything else connected through my router.  Lots of duplicate access there. 

Going back to the Video Settings, I find that any Custom settings I set always results in the Vizio displaying 24 Hz playback with 4:2:2 at 10 bits as cjake suggested.  The Vizio appears to only have the one mode for DVD, BR or UHD.  This is with Strip Metadata on.  Playing a music DVD, the Vizio changes to 60/30 Hz with RGB 4:4:4.  Also, I get the same results if Output Resolution is set to Auto.  I think this is as expected. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 11, 2017, 10:04:47 AM
When I opened Music, I found the player as you said, and the USB stick (stub rather) which is plugged in the rear. 

Photos and Movies does the same.

Network finds my laptop and everything else connected through my router.  Lots of duplicate access there. 

Going back to the Video Settings, I find that any Custom settings I set always results in the Vizio displaying 24 Hz playback with 4:2:2 at 10 bits as cjake suggested.  The Vizio appears to only have the one mode for DVD, BR or UHD.  This is with Strip Metadata on.  Playing a music DVD, the Vizio changes to 60/30 Hz with RGB 4:4:4.  Also, I get the same results if Output Resolution is set to Auto.  I think this is as expected.
You should check to see if your TV supports BT.2020 wide color gamut.    If not then you might want to set HDR to Off instead of Strip Metadata.   
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: gadgtfreek on January 11, 2017, 01:12:08 PM
Oppo has replicated some of the playback issues.   They are working on improving disc reading.    Until then, try cleaning the disc.  ::)


LOL, I am sooooooooooooooooo tired of hear that.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: gadgtfreek on January 11, 2017, 01:13:00 PM
From Oppo:

Yes, we will be making enhancements to the player's error correction through firmware releases, and it will likely be several releases before we can tamp down on most of the disc reading errors that our customers are reporting.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 11, 2017, 02:10:22 PM
I installed the MP cable today, and when I turned it on the Oppo said"For optimal quality, connect your 4k Ultra HD Blueray player to a television that supports 4k Ultra HD with High Dynamic Range (HDR). I checked my settings on my Samsung TV, and HDR was set. I played Jason Bourne and it looked great.

Why would the Oppo tell me this...does this mean the old cable didn't see it as HDR or is it the new cable that is causing this error?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 11, 2017, 02:12:47 PM
I installed the MP cable today, and when I turned it on the Oppo said"For optimal quality, connect your 4k Ultra HD Blueray player to a television that supports 4k Ultra HD with High Dynamic Range (HDR). I checked my settings on my Samsung TV, and HDR was set. I played Jason Bourne and it looked great.

Why would the Oppo tell me this...does this mean the old cable didn't see it as HDR or is it the new cable that is causing this error?

I get that error message with various 4K Blu Rays and my Panasonic UB900, but I'm using SDR BT.2020. Maybe 4K Blu Rays just like sending that message !  ;D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 11, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
Just picked up a couple of 4K discs to try out in the 203... Deepwater Horizon, and Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 11, 2017, 03:53:35 PM
Just picked up a couple of 4K discs to try out in the 203... Deepwater Horizon, and Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.

I think Deepwater Horizon just arrived from Amazon !!  :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: TWISM on January 11, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
Yup, I got The Accountant and Deep Water Horizon yesterday, trying to find some time to watch them!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ellisr63 on January 11, 2017, 06:36:22 PM
I think Deepwater Horizon just arrived from Amazon !!  :)
That is where I usually get my BRs too. Today I redeemed a gift card at BB so I had to go to BB.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on January 11, 2017, 07:08:16 PM
UPS delivered my Oppo today.  Thanks Mike and AVS.

I initially connected it to a 1080p TV to do the Beta firmware update.  Then placed it into its permanent home.

Device chain is Oppo -> Denon x4200w -> JVC RS500.
Oppo supplied HDMI cable to AVR.   
Blue Jeans Series1 25 foot cable from AVR to RS500.

With factory Auto settings, Home screen came up with no issues.

Home Screen...........4K60 4:2:2 12-bit
UHD Disc.................4K24 4:2:2 BT2020 12-bit HDR
BD Disc...................4K24 4:2:2 BT709 12bit
HDR OFF.................4K24 4:2:2 SDR BT709 12-bit
HDR Strip Metadata..4K24 4:2:2 SDR BT2020 12bit
After stopping disc playback Home screen returns to 4K60 4:2:2 12-bit.


Changed display settings to:

Custom Resolution: UHD Auto
Color Space: 4:4:4

Home Screen....4K60 4:4:4 8-bit
UHD Disc..........4K24 4:4:4 BT.2020 12-bit HDR


Changed Display Settings to:

Output Resolution: Source Direct
Custom Resolution: UHD Auto

Menu.............1080p/60
UHD Disc.......4K24 4:2:2 BT.2020 12-bit HDR
Blu Ray Disc...1080p/24 4:4:4 12-bit BT709

With everything set to Auto, it appears that the Oppo and RS500 prefer 4:2:2 over 4:4:4 so I will leave it that way for now.  I might use Source Direct if standard Blu Ray at 1080p with JVC e-Shift looks better than the Oppo scaling output to 4K.

While I was experimenting with the display settings, I noticed that UHD HDR looked rather darker than I expected it to.  So I performed a quick check with the Masciola HDR 10 Black and White Clipping patterns.

With RS500:

Low Lamp
Iris: Manual -5

Gamma D: 12/2/7
Contrast: 10
Brightness: 1

Increased Contrast in the Oppo to +6 to be able to see the 1000 nit square in the white clipping pattern flash and nothing above.
Increased Brightness in the Oppo to +4 to be able to see the 77 bar in the black clipping pattern flash and nothing below.

With these settings I watched scenes from a number of my UHD discs in HDR and the RS500 iris set to manual -5.   This fixed the overly dark image I had previously noticed.   Image was so much better than my Samsung could ever do.

I was extremely impressed with HDR from Lucy, Kingsman, and Pacific Rim.   Star Trek Beyond was still somewhat dark, but it wasn't frustratingly so.  It looked like what you would expect to see in low light and night scenes.

I am going to stick with HDR for now.  At least until Oppo fixes BT.2020 SDR conversion.   But even then I believe I will still enjoy bright films like Kinsgman a lot more in HDR.


Edit:  I have backed off the Oppo brightness and contrast settings for HDR viewing to +3/+4 from +4/+6.   Perhaps my RS500 was not sufficiently warmed up when I made the first tests with the HDR patterns.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on January 11, 2017, 09:38:28 PM
You should check to see if your TV supports BT.2020 wide color gamut.    If not then you might want to set HDR to Off instead of Strip Metadata.

I had actually verified this before, but your post sent me back to make sure.  While the display looks good with BT.709 or BT.2020, the colors are cleaner with 2020.  Sort of what you expect with good eyesight.   ;D 

ellisr63, I finally unburied my bluray of The Endless River and have to agree.  I had sort of misplaced it (right next to the CD).  When it first came out, I had a totally different equipment layout (except my base 7.2 speakers).  Playing this BR on a DTS:X setup (A3060) with the OPPO makes an enormous difference.  Thanks once again... 8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 12, 2017, 08:34:25 PM
Well soon I will have a projector to pair with my Oppo. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 12, 2017, 09:30:46 PM
Well soon I will have a projector to pair with my Oppo. :)

About time !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on January 13, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
And....it will be the ____________!!!!!
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 14, 2017, 07:57:42 AM
...well...I'm returning the OPPO 203...I put back the OPPO blu-ray player and it was like a breath of fresh air to just put in a blu-ray disc and have it start immediately with no video/sound problems...maybe I received very early on a unit from the first batch of units sold...maybe there is a problem with it...I just can't take the problems I've been having each and every time I try to watch something...

Perhaps the 205 might address some of these issues...the OPPO technician said that it might...(or not)...
I'll wait awhile after it's release and read from these discussion groups what the feelings are then...

It's a great disappointment because, when it did work (seldom) I loved the image/sound. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 14, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
...well...I'm returning the OPPO 203...I put back the OPPO blu-ray player and it was like a breath of fresh air to just put in a blu-ray disc and have it start immediately with no video/sound problems...maybe I received very early on a unit from the first batch of units sold...maybe there is a problem with it...I just can't take the problems I've been having each and every time I try to watch something...

Perhaps the 205 might address some of these issues...the OPPO technician said that it might...(or not)...
I'll wait awhile after it's release and read from these discussion groups what the feelings are then...

It's a great disappointment because, when it did work (seldom) I loved the image/sound.

interesting...I think its unit to unit not necessarily when it was produced...my wife ordered mine as soon as preoreder opened....and she said it was shipped same day....so I definitely got first batch...and have had literally zero issues

too bad you have to send it back...I am enamored with mine
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 14, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
And....it will be the ____________!!!!!

RS4500. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on January 17, 2017, 12:04:48 AM
interesting...I think its unit to unit not necessarily when it was produced...my wife ordered mine as soon as preoreder opened....and she said it was shipped same day....so I definitely got first batch...and have had literally zero issues

too bad you have to send it back...I am enamored with mine

bmoney,

What HDMI cable are you using?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 17, 2017, 08:15:34 AM
bmoney,

What HDMI cable are you using?

I forget exactly which one. But it is a 12$ white one from amazon

Edit;
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Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ronman79 on January 17, 2017, 02:59:19 PM
RS4500. :)

I know we've already talked about this, Mike, but CONGRATS!!! So, how far is it from NW MS to your place!???
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on January 17, 2017, 06:19:07 PM
I know we've already talked about this, Mike, but CONGRATS!!! So, how far is it from NW MS to your place!???

Thank you. Heated up the credit card today. Should ship out this week, but will take a week to get to me. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 23, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
With the new firmware. The strip meta works well with tr luminance slider. The other issue I see is the slider settings return to default when the unit is turned off. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 23, 2017, 06:30:09 PM
With the new firmware. The strip meta works well with tr luminance slider. The other issue I see is the slider settings return to default when the unit is turned off. Am I missing something?

Sounds like the 203 is headed in the right direction. Not sure about the slider though.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on March 01, 2017, 11:38:10 AM
The slider is the way it is for now.  Remember that this is an "experimental" feature.  OPPO will make changes probably dependent on the demands of other mainline features.  I always assume that the "strip metadata" function will normally be simply a bottom priority item. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on March 01, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
bmoney,

What HDMI cable are you using?

I would think that at this point, no one should be asking this question if you are using 4k/UHD w/ HDR, but I tend to be a constant forum reader, so maybe its just me. 

Regardless of how much you pay, only Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable (with the certified emblem) should be used at any point in the data flow.  IOW, ALL the HDMI cables in your setup should be certified premium.  Monoprice has them for under $5.  Amazon also has some inexpensive "certified premium" cables.  My personal recommendation is that you order a couple of additional cables for backup.  I have two backups -- one is the cable provide by OPPO and has not even been opened. 

Certified cables have been individually test and certified for 18GB data flow.  They "should" work.  But even tested cables can fail, hence the backups.  For you long run projection guys, the 18GB data link can be dubious over 25 feet.  I've heard (no experience at all) that some have success with fiber cables. 

If they are not "certified premium", high priced cables are just so much junk likely destined to cause you problems.  One "AV installer" recently told me to use a cable from Best Buy priced at $350 for 6 ft that is not "certified premium".  High priced junk! 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 01, 2017, 12:38:31 PM
I would think that at this point, no one should be asking this question if you are using 4k/UHD w/ HDR, but I tend to be a constant forum reader, so maybe its just me. 

Regardless of how much you pay, only Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable (with the certified emblem) should be used at any point in the data flow.  IOW, ALL the HDMI cables in your setup should be certified premium.  Monoprice has them for under $5.  Amazon also has some inexpensive "certified premium" cables.  My personal recommendation is that you order a couple of additional cables for backup.  I have two backups -- one is the cable provide by OPPO and has not even been opened. 

Certified cables have been individually test and certified for 18GB data flow.  They "should" work.  But even tested cables can fail, hence the backups.  For you long run projection guys, the 18GB data link can be dubious over 25 feet.  I've heard (no experience at all) that some have success with fiber cables. 

If they are not "certified premium", high priced cables are just so much junk likely destined to cause you problems.  One "AV installer" recently told me to use a cable from Best Buy priced at $350 for 6 ft that is not "certified premium".  High priced junk!

My " Monster Ultra HD Platinum Ultra High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet " cables aren't " certified premium" cables, but they work just fine. I should note though that my longest run is a 16 ', and the other ( 4K Blu Ray player to the receiver ) is 5'. Have had zero issues with them.

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on March 03, 2017, 01:48:32 PM
I don't find it surprising that they would work properly, Craig.  What I find surprising is those who have issues in their system and that still think their expensive cables cannot be the issue.  Other than the OPPO supplied cable, all my new ones are Monoprice certified premium.  Range from a couple of 6', a 10 ft up to a 20 ft.  All work just fine, but the most expensive one was $10. 

I also have an old Monster HDMI cable that I bought from BB when I first got an HD tv.  It also has never failed, but I have also not tried to pass 4K at 4:2:2 10 bit.  Just couldn't see the sense in asking for possible problems when I had a $4 certified premium on hand. 

Since HDMI cables have the rep of being "fragile", I'm happy to have the spares so that, in the event problems occur (I do at times need to move my equipment a bit) I can swap and run the Bob Pariseau test provided in that "other" OPPO thread.  I think some of the major pluses of the 203 is the exceptional control and I/O information provided by holding the INFO remote button. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Gary E on March 04, 2017, 07:35:43 AM
...
Regardless of how much you pay, only Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable (with the certified emblem) should be used at any point in the data flow.

Longer runs to projectors may be a different story. Many have had success with Celerity fiber-optic cables, which are not certified. I am using a 35' Tributaries fiber-optic cable, certified 18Gbps by DPL Labs, different than HDMI.org.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on March 04, 2017, 09:37:42 AM
I would think that at this point, no one should be asking this question if you are using 4k/UHD w/ HDR, but I tend to be a constant forum reader, so maybe its just me. 

Regardless of how much you pay, only Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable (with the certified emblem) should be used at any point in the data flow.  IOW, ALL the HDMI cables in your setup should be certified premium.  Monoprice has them for under $5.  Amazon also has some inexpensive "certified premium" cables.  My personal recommendation is that you order a couple of additional cables for backup.  I have two backups -- one is the cable provide by OPPO and has not even been opened. 

Certified cables have been individually test and certified for 18GB data flow.  They "should" work.  But even tested cables can fail, hence the backups.  For you long run projection guys, the 18GB data link can be dubious over 25 feet.  I've heard (no experience at all) that some have success with fiber cables. 

If they are not "certified premium", high priced cables are just so much junk likely destined to cause you problems.  One "AV installer" recently told me to use a cable from Best Buy priced at $350 for 6 ft that is not "certified premium".  High priced junk!
My 25 foot Blue Jeans Series 1 cable is not Premium Certified.  Blue Jeans even mentions on their website that they decided not to submit it for certification testing because they suspected this thick cable would fail the not-so-real-world "bend" test where the test consists of wrapping the cable tightly around a pole.  Even so, Blue Jeans recommends this cable over their certified cable for distances over 20 feet.   
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on March 04, 2017, 09:44:35 AM
My 25 foot Blue Jeans Series 1 cable is not Premium Certified.  Blue Jeans even mentions on their website that they decided not to submit it for certification testing because they suspected this thick cable would fail the not-so-real-world "bend" test where the test consists of wrapping the cable tightly around a pole.  Even so, Blue Jeans recommends this cable over their certified cable for distances over 20 feet.

I purchased this Blue Jeans cable a year ago when there were no Monoprice Premium Certified cables.  But that didn't prevent Monoprice from claiming at the time that their Redmere Cabernet Active cables were all you needed for UHD.   I ended up sending two of them back.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: richlife69 on March 05, 2017, 09:40:31 AM
My 25 foot Blue Jeans Series 1 cable is not Premium Certified.  Blue Jeans even mentions on their website that they decided not to submit it for certification testing because they suspected this thick cable would fail the not-so-real-world "bend" test where the test consists of wrapping the cable tightly around a pole.  Even so, Blue Jeans recommends this cable over their certified cable for distances over 20 feet.

From what I've read, for long runs you're right -- all you can really do is get the best recommended by a reliable manufacturer like BJ and hope.  I mentioned in that first post that fiber is a known option.  But like you, I would prefer to work with a reputable company like BlueJeans (though worth testing with a "certified premium" if you can get the length you want.  I think the most important factor is that, while you CAN pay $300-400 or more, if you aren't working with a reliable company that will make an exchange in the event of problems, it may just be money down the drain.  $350 is not, to me, a rational cost for a 6 foot cable under any circumstance. 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: ed weinman on March 06, 2017, 10:54:57 AM
...I don't know if this was mentioned here but the OPPO205 is going to be released in April, 2017 (per their website)...
...I started a new topic regarding this...

(now back to your regular programing)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 06, 2017, 02:08:53 PM
...I don't know if this was mentioned here but the OPPO205 is going to be released in April, 2017 (per their website)...
...I started a new topic regarding this...

(now back to your regular programing)

I figured the 205 was coming soon. Now it will be interesting to see if a 203D model ever gets released ( since there is a 4K Darbee ).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on March 07, 2017, 06:08:37 AM
I figured the 205 was coming soon. Now it will be interesting to see if a 203D model ever gets released ( since there is a 4K Darbee ).

What 4K Darbee?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 07, 2017, 08:37:48 AM
What 4K Darbee?

Darbee told me at CES 2016 that there was a 4K version, but it was only going to be used in other products - not sold as a stand alone device. That's what Darbee told me ( 'cause I specifically asked ) ! 
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 07, 2017, 08:38:35 AM
Of course it may never happen, but who knows !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on March 14, 2017, 08:01:42 AM
Darbee told me at CES 2016 that there was a 4K version, but it was only going to be used in other products - not sold as a stand alone device. That's what Darbee told me ( 'cause I specifically asked ) !

Yes, know that it is supposed to be coming, but I thought you were saying available. As of right now, I have only read about 4K Darbee as a future product, with no set release date.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 14, 2017, 08:39:17 AM
Yes, know that it is supposed to be coming, but I thought you were saying available. As of right now, I have only read about 4K Darbee as a future product, with no set release date.

I was just wondering out loud if an Oppo UDP - 203 D might arrive some day ! You never know !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on January 26, 2018, 05:20:16 PM
Yaaaaay!  ;D 8)

Several points on this new Public Beta firmware:

The item regarding color shift for the 21:9 Aspect Ratio modes fixes the image corruption when using the Zoom choices. All combos of Aspect Ratio and Zoom should produce clean output now.

The A/V Sync control in the player should be working much more reliably in this firmware -- perhaps even completely fixed depending upon your configuration. Any remaining issues you discover with use of the A/V Sync setting should be reported.

Crossover processing is now working properly for LPCM 2.0 input into the Optical/Coax S/PDIF Digital audio Inputs of the 205.

There are undoubtedly some other bug fixes I've failed to list. Collect Them All!

--------------------------------------------------------

Regarding the new HDR to SDR options:

Most folks who have been using HDR Strip Metadata to get SDR with BT.2020 color gamut should now use the new HDR Off (BT.2020) choice.

The HDR Strip Metadata choice remains available, but is intended for use with displays that have custom HDR handling implemented.

Anyone using the HDR to SDR conversion should revisit your choice of Target Luminance setting. Odds are you will find a higher number works better than the value you've been using up to now.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 26, 2018, 06:00:51 PM
Just did the update. And used the hdr off 2020. And it looked outstanding!  I only watched a few scenes from blade runner 2049 but wow what i saw looked outstanding.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 27, 2018, 11:10:14 AM
Just did the update. And used the hdr off 2020. And it looked outstanding!  I only watched a few scenes from blade runner 2049 but wow what i saw looked outstanding.

Looking forward to more testing and impressions on the new firmware.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 29, 2018, 05:01:33 AM
so after more A/B'ing...Im sticking with custom curves for now.

1) not a fan of having to adjust luminance target for each movie...i prefere the set it forget it of the custom curve
2) not all is right with the oppo....purple tint to blue (also reported over at AVS)

if it aint broke...at this point i guess :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on January 29, 2018, 08:35:28 AM
so after more A/B'ing...Im sticking with custom curves for now.

1) not a fan of having to adjust luminance target for each movie...i prefere the set it forget it of the custom curve
2) not all is right with the oppo....purple tint to blue (also reported over at AVS)

if it aint broke...at this point i guess :)

Thanks - you saved me some money that I can spend on some other piece of home theater gear I don't really need, but want anyway.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on January 30, 2018, 05:26:35 AM
Thanks - you saved me some money that I can spend on some other piece of home theater gear I don't really need, but want anyway.

welp i know IM being flip floppy....but

I was able to play with this more last night and used Kingsman Golden Circle.  I THINK the OPPO is the winner....I wasnt using "mode 2" when i first used it....now its better....also I use 800 target luminance before i was using 400...

the colors are much better...and the black detail is way better....Merlins sweater was just dark with the HDR curve//// you can see all the subtle knitting in it with the oppo

im gonn leave it using the oppo for a bit....but I think it may be the winner....too early to tell to be honest...and its hard to remember too since the switching takes forever with the JVC

Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DavidHir on January 30, 2018, 09:12:38 AM
I think once Oppo gets this refined, it's going to be really impressive and being able to close down the iris for more contrast will be nice for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 04, 2018, 05:54:30 AM
I am 100% converted from custom curve to using the oppo

My setting is

Hdr2020 off
Mode 2
Target lum 400

It’s as close to set and forget as you can get.

Power rangers (which has its dark dim moments) looked outstanding! And blade runner 2049 is just jaw dropping. The see blacks but all the shadow detail you can dream of

I have a love hate with these new improvements. Love how great they make the rs600 look. Hate that I want to rewatch all my 4K discs

And here I almost dumped my 203 earlier This year. So glad I didn’t

Oppo ftw
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on February 04, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
I am 100% converted from custom curve to using the oppo

My setting is

Hdr2020 off
Mode 2
Target lum 400

It’s as close to set and forget as you can get.

Power rangers (which has its dark dim moments) looked outstanding! And blade runner 2049 is just jaw dropping. The see blacks but all the shadow detail you can dream of

I have a love hate with these new improvements. Love how great they make the rs600 look. Hate that I want to rewatch all my 4K discs

And here I almost dumped my 203 earlier This year. So glad I didn’t

Oppo ftw

Yes, this firmware update made the closeout pricing on the 600's a steal of a deal.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Ajin on February 04, 2018, 07:44:32 AM
I'm trying to update my Oppo but it keeps saying it has the latest software but has no settings as being described above for the HDR options.  Is it avail to all or just to few b/c it is still beta version??  What software version# should I look for?
Thnx.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 04, 2018, 07:48:58 AM
I'm trying to update my Oppo but it keeps saying it has the latest software but has no settings as being described above for the HDR options.  Is it avail to all or just to few b/c it is still beta version??  What software version# should I look for?
Thnx.

Yes beta version. Can only be loaded via usb
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 04, 2018, 07:49:23 AM
Yes, this firmware update made the closeout pricing on the 600's a steal of a deal.

Was a steal of a deal anyhow
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 05, 2018, 10:23:27 AM
Any more feedback regarding the new beta firmware ?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on February 05, 2018, 11:13:31 AM
Any more feedback regarding the new beta firmware ?

I have my Roku running through the Oppo 203. Watched the series "Altered Carbon". The HDR with the Oppo doing the tone mapping and it was very good, especially for streamed content.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on February 06, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
I have my Roku running through the Oppo 203. Watched the series "Altered Carbon". The HDR with the Oppo doing the tone mapping and it was very good, especially for streamed content.

I did the same by connecting my Samsung K8500 UHD disc player to the Oppo HDMI input.    Even with custom HDR curves much of Netflix HDR content was still extremely dark.   With the Oppo doing the tone mapping I am able to adjust the picture to my liking.  All of the neon lighting in Altered Carbon looked fantastic.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on February 06, 2018, 04:10:15 PM
I did the same by connecting my Samsung K8500 UHD disc player to the Oppo HDMI input.    Even with custom HDR curves much of Netflix HDR content was still extremely dark.   With the Oppo doing the tone mapping I am able to adjust the picture to my liking.  All of the neon lighting in Altered Carbon looked fantastic.

Should not be using custom curve in projector. Should be using standard profile, BT2020 and 2.4 gamma.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on February 07, 2018, 07:32:59 AM
Should not be using custom curve in projector. Should be using standard profile, BT2020 and 2.4 gamma.

Of course.

What I was trying to say is that I was never happy with Netflix HDR content no matter what custom curve I loaded in my JVC RS500.   The new Oppo tone mapping (yes with BT.2020 and gamma 2.4) made a huge difference.   
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 07, 2018, 08:06:40 AM
seems like the new tone mapping is a game changer
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 09, 2018, 05:24:27 AM
Quote
Overall the Off BT.2020 image looks flat, and less vibrant. (which is contrary to what some have posted)
I noticed it in person with my own eyes, the camera captured the same differences I saw as well,
...otherwise I would not have posted them.

this above quote from AVS from Piomaniac.....was odd to me...since no one ever mentioned this with the new beta ware.

then last night w my son we popped in Dispicable me 3 in 4k UHD bluray.  The colors were flat and not vibrant at all...the whites looked fuzzy...i was in shock.  I opened the oppo app to adjust the luninance....and switching it literally did nothing!

I then remembered when the disc loaded I hit "YES" when asked to pickup where we last left off.....so I stopped the disc...and started a new.  and BAM all the glorious color pop was there and the picture was STUNNING

Im curious if Pio....did the same and was underwhelmed by the picture...

curious little glitch that was encountered

btw watched Deadpool after the little went to bed...WOW that is top 3 for PQ for me..and I NEVER thought so with even the custom curves....was always dark and not great highlights...NO MORE :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 09, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
this above quote from AVS from Piomaniac.....was odd to me...since no one ever mentioned this with the new beta ware.

then last night w my son we popped in Dispicable me 3 in 4k UHD bluray.  The colors were flat and not vibrant at all...the whites looked fuzzy...i was in shock.  I opened the oppo app to adjust the luninance....and switching it literally did nothing!

I then remembered when the disc loaded I hit "YES" when asked to pickup where we last left off.....so I stopped the disc...and started a new.  and BAM all the glorious color pop was there and the picture was STUNNING

Im curious if Pio....did the same and was underwhelmed by the picture...

curious little glitch that was encountered

btw watched Deadpool after the little went to bed...WOW that is top 3 for PQ for me..and I NEVER thought so with even the custom curves....was always dark and not great highlights...NO MORE :)

Good to hear this is working for you !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 09, 2018, 02:17:52 PM
Alright, I have an Oppo 203 coming. I can do some comparison tests against the UB900 with custom gamma curves.
When the new Panasonic UB820 comes out, I may replace the UB900 with that ( depending on reviews ) and compare that with the Oppo tone mapping.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 09, 2018, 02:38:02 PM
Alright, I have an Oppo 203 coming. I can do some comparison tests against the UB900 with custom gamma curves.
When the new Panasonic UB820 comes out, I may replace the UB900 with that ( depending on reviews ) and compare that with the Oppo tone mapping.

Oops sorry hahahah
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on February 09, 2018, 03:09:25 PM
Lmao @ Craig.    ::) ;D :D
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 09, 2018, 03:32:33 PM
Lmao @ Craig.    ::) ;D :D

I have missed having two Blu-ray players, which can be handy ( Blu-ray vs 4K BR comparisons ). And I need a new toy to play with. Besides, it's way cheaper than getting a Radiance Pro to play with !  :-[
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: Tom Bley on February 09, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
I have missed having two Blu-ray players, which can be handy ( Blu-ray vs 4K BR comparisons ). And I need a new toy to play with. Besides, it's way cheaper than getting a Radiance Pro to play with !  :-[

Yeah, way cheap than a R-Pro!  I remember checking http://www.curtpalme.com and couldn't believe the price.   I could have bought another RS-500.  It's really awesome how Oppo continually improves and offers more features.  They are the OPPO-site of JVC   ;)  I've never had a piece of  A/V gear where it was continuously improved.   This is my first Oppo product and I don't think it will be my last.   8)

Don't you have a Samsung k8500 UHD player as well or did you sell it?  So the Oppo makes 3 UHD players if I remember correctly.    ??? 8)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 09, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
Yeah, way cheap than a R-Pro!  I remember checking http://www.curtpalme.com and couldn't believe the price.   I could have bought another RS-500.  It's really awesome how Oppo continually improves and offers more features.  They are the OPPO-site of JVC   ;)  I've never had a piece of  A/V gear where it was continuously improved.   This is my first Oppo product and I don't think it will be my last.   8)

Don't you have a Samsung k8500 UHD player as well or did you sell it?  So the Oppo makes 3 UHD players if I remember correctly.    ??? 8)

Oh no - I sold that Samsung piece of junk quite a while ago. I currently only have the UB900.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on February 27, 2018, 09:06:14 AM
For those that have the Oppo BD players, I highly recommend downloading the new beta firmware and use the Oppo for HDR tone mapping. It is quick, easy and painless. :)
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-56-0124B.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-56-0124B.aspx)

Oppo settings for HDR
HDR off BT2020
Luminance slider to 250 or higher.
Select 1 through 4 depending on what you want to emphasize.

JVC RS5xx and RS6xx settings for HDR
Natural or standard
BT2020 color space
Custom 2.4 gamma

Set light output and iris to settings that work for your screen.

Now play with the luminance slider and 1-4 settings, to find what works for your screen and you are done. :)

Added
I have my HDR settings under user 1 and SDR settings under user 3. I have user 1 and user 3 buttons available for all of my activities, so simple one button press to go back and forth.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: claw on February 27, 2018, 09:28:17 AM
When I first tried the Oppo Tone Mapping feature, I set a low target luminance value such as 250 or 300 and had my JVC RS500 aperture closed down to -6.

But the more content I watched, I found the tone mapping to be clipping or blowing out bright highlights.   Raising the target lum. value reduced the clipping but then I thought the picture was dim.

I think I have now settled on Mode 2 with target luminance set to 500.   Then open the JVC aperture setting to wide open in low lamp.  High lamp would be better but I refuse to use it unless absolutely necessary.

Hopefully, Oppo will work on resolving the white clipping issues.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on February 27, 2018, 10:02:52 AM
best overall is mode 3 and target 300 or above...this has been thorugh many users and their reports...

anything else blows out white highlights,,,.....and anything under 300 lum causes a blinking while the mapping tries to figure out what to do
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on February 27, 2018, 10:37:54 AM
Hearing that Oppo beta firmware with HDR tone mapping feature will be going to regular firmware update in the next several days. :)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on February 27, 2018, 10:58:52 AM
Give us a heads up - or whomever sees it download first !
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: woofer on March 01, 2018, 12:31:40 PM
best overall is mode 3 and target 300 or above...this has been thorugh many users and their reports...

anything else blows out white highlights,,,.....and anything under 300 lum causes a blinking while the mapping tries to figure out what to do

Yeah, definitely Mode 3.... and i consider 400nits the minimum value otherwise you WILL get severe clipping on highlights.

The Tone mapping is good, but it still has issues with clipping even when using very high Nit values.. I am currently using  Javs 4000 nit V3 curve and find it VERY good...NO clipping at all and more midrange saturation and contrast.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 03, 2018, 02:43:08 PM
There is a new firmware update - the tone mapping is now a regular feature -
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/blu-ray-UDP-20x-Firmware.aspx
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: woofer on March 21, 2018, 12:50:18 AM
I sent Javs a 203 to test Tone Mapping...

Result . http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2222586-official-jvc-rs600-rs500-x950r-x750r-x9000-x7000-owners-thread-595.html#post55892972
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on March 21, 2018, 04:14:15 AM
I sent Javs a 203 to test Tone Mapping...

Result . http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2222586-official-jvc-rs600-rs500-x950r-x750r-x9000-x7000-owners-thread-595.html#post55892972

But for most it’s difficult to tell the difference between the tone mapping and custom curves. Me included. How can that be if it measures so poorly?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: DLCPhoto on March 21, 2018, 06:42:13 AM
But for most it’s difficult to tell the difference between the tone mapping and custom curves. Me included. How can that be if it measures so poorly?

stanger89 had a good response to this question in the other forum:

stanger89 Post (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2222586-official-jvc-rs600-rs500-x950r-x750r-x9000-x7000-owners-thread-992.html#post55893328)
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSCraig on March 21, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
But for most it’s difficult to tell the difference between the tone mapping and custom curves. Me included. How can that be if it measures so poorly?

Now I can compare the Lumagen tone mapping with my custom gamma curves ( and even the Oppo tone mapping ).
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: woofer on March 22, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
Oppo tone Mapping under saturation ( basically rec709 output)  also confirmed by Kris Deering..

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/149-blu-ray-players/2676801-official-oppo-udp-203-owner-s-thread-545.html#post55902510
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on March 22, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Back to the avre curve then lol
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on March 23, 2018, 05:22:55 AM
so I am 100% convinced...when they are measuring the saturation....its using the "glitch" I reported....when you start up some discs the pictutre is very muted (see my review of Justice league here https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=1726.0) and very unsaturated....

because I watched Jumanji again last night....and the greens and reds are SO vivid and saturated with Mode 2 400 lum. in the oppo...i directly compared to to a custom curve...same exact color reproduction...just better luminance and tone mapping overall. I will take pics tonight...but if iwhat i am see is "undersaturated" and not even "rec709"...I DONT want it fully saturated because it would look rediculous...and not realistic....

I think when they use the test patterns...it triggers this "glitch"

I am sticking with the oppo....hands down...
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: blackgold9 on March 29, 2018, 08:57:56 PM
For those that have the Oppo BD players, I highly recommend downloading the new beta firmware and use the Oppo for HDR tone mapping. It is quick, easy and painless. :)
https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-56-0124B.aspx (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-56-0124B.aspx)

Oppo settings for HDR
HDR off BT2020
Luminance slider to 250 or higher.
Select 1 through 4 depending on what you want to emphasize.

JVC RS5xx and RS6xx settings for HDR
Natural or standard
BT2020 color space
Custom 2.4 gamma

Set light output and iris to settings that work for your screen.

Now play with the luminance slider and 1-4 settings, to find what works for your screen and you are done. :)

Added
I have my HDR settings under user 1 and SDR settings under user 3. I have user 1 and user 3 buttons available for all of my activities, so simple one button press to go back and forth.

Out of curiosity, what are your SDR Settings?
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on March 30, 2018, 02:00:53 PM
Out of curiosity, what are your SDR Settings?

I do not remember. I do know I am using natural mode. Will have to look up later.
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: bmoney on April 06, 2018, 07:20:48 PM
https://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/lastbatch.aspx
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: pjneder on May 11, 2018, 04:45:32 PM
OK folks, it's time for me to start asking dumb questions and making ignorant comments. I've read just a tiny fraction of the zillions of posts that require a degree in color management and physics.

I have my new RS520 (thanks to AVS for the great end of model sale!) and Oppo 203 setup and running. I've confirmed that the 40' cable is carrying HDR 4k just fine. The Oppo 203 pulled the latest FW as soon as I booted it up, so I assume that is ok.

I'm just starting to compare and try to understand the HDR vs. SDR BT.2020 mapping stuff. I have not begun to dork around with "custom curves" etc because I barely understand anything being done there. I am using baseline settings gratefully supplied by Mike@AVS.

The first UHD movie I watched was Mad Max Fury Road. The flares and explosions prove to be great testing scenes. In particular I am using the scene at ~55min where the motorcycle gang is chasing the war rig. They shoot a flare at a motorcycle chaser and he drops a bomb under the rig causing the fuel pod to detach and explode. A real pressure test on the mapping.

Starting values-
PJ in SDR:
Natural
Black to Low
BT2020
Custom gamma 2.4
Iris is Auto1
CMD options all off

Oppo:
SDR BT2020
300 nits
mode 2

With all settings equalized I notice that on SDR BT.2020 mapping from the Oppo the oranges and reds oversaturate and look fake, while on pure HDR mode it is MUCH smoother and natural. Given, the lamp is running on HIGH, blah blah. Overall the movie looks more red pushed in SDR mapped mode. Plays tricks on me to where I don't know what is "right" when watching. This is a light controlled room, no velvet walls, grey ceiling & back wall, on Screen Acoustics V6 screen material and ~12ft throw.

So, where is the easiest place to start? Like most posters, I'd rather not run the lamp in high for UHD material but UGH those colors were majorly distracting when watching the movie. I feel like a Cessna pilot shoved into a 777 cockpit. Too many knobs and sliders to know where to begin....
Title: Re: Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Post by: AVSMike on May 13, 2018, 07:15:14 AM
Oppo should be on:
HDR off BT2020 (HDR is not turned off. Only HDR flag is turned off)
300 nits
Mode 2