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Movie Discussion => 4K UHD Blu-rays => Topic started by: AVSCraig on November 10, 2016, 02:21:34 PM

Title: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on November 10, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
Here is an interesting update on 4K UHD sales etc. ( dated Nov 10th ) - 

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/4K/UHD/tvs/hdr/ultra-hd-bluray/High-Def_Retailing/state-of-the-ultra-hd-bluray-union/36519
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: bmoney on November 12, 2016, 03:33:43 PM
the good news is they are dropping in price fast
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ellisr63 on November 13, 2016, 07:11:43 PM
The 4k FP are dirt cheap... I just wish the price of the 4K projectors would drop like the FPs have. :(
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: bmoney on November 14, 2016, 04:54:14 AM
I cant believe how cheap the 4k TVs are...you are spot on
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on November 15, 2016, 08:11:12 AM
I cant believe how cheap the 4k TVs are...you are spot on

Too bad they are so small compared to front projection ! Here is an 80" diagonal 16:9 TV vs my 128" diagonal 2.35:1 screen.

(http://displaywars.com/comparisons/80-inch-16x9-vs-128-inch-235x1.png)
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ellisr63 on November 15, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
Too bad they are so small compared to front projection ! Here is an 80" diagonal 16:9 TV vs my 128" diagonal 2.35:1 screen.

(http://displaywars.com/comparisons/80-inch-16x9-vs-128-inch-235x1.png)

I was hoping the format where you rolled the screen fabric (TV) on the wall would be popular by now, but apparently it died before production. It would be great to just roll the fabric on the wall, and plug it into your AVR. This would have the potential to eliminate projectors though if the image is great.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: bmoney on November 15, 2016, 10:01:41 AM
I will never give up a projector....even is 110" TV's become somewhat affordable...just something about a PJ
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: seplant on November 15, 2016, 07:06:38 PM
I was hoping the format where you rolled the screen fabric (TV) on the wall would be popular by now, but apparently it died before production. It would be great to just roll the fabric on the wall, and plug it into your AVR. This would have the potential to eliminate projectors though if the image is great.

Not quite there yet, but getting close:  https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-wallpaper-oled-tv-may-arrive-in-2017-leak-reveals/?ftag=CAD1acfa04&bhid=23471751199798506228366227686564
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on November 15, 2016, 07:39:40 PM
Not quite there yet, but getting close:  https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-wallpaper-oled-tv-may-arrive-in-2017-leak-reveals/?ftag=CAD1acfa04&bhid=23471751199798506228366227686564

" I'm not going to venture any more speculation at this point, except to take a stab at the pricing of the 65-inch "wallpaper" set: $10,000. " - too spendy, too small.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ellisr63 on November 16, 2016, 09:40:03 AM
" I'm not going to venture any more speculation at this point, except to take a stab at the pricing of the 65-inch "wallpaper" set: $10,000. " - too spendy, too small.

I agree it is expensive, but if it looks as good as a FP, they bring the price down to $5k, and make it wall size...it might be great. Then you could view in a room with lights on if you wanted, and have a bright picture still. I really think this is the future, but it must come down in price to where it competes size, and price to FPs and Projectors.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: seplant on November 17, 2016, 07:22:24 PM
I agree it is expensive, but if it looks as good as a FP, they bring the price down to $5k, and make it wall size...it might be great. Then you could view in a room with lights on if you wanted, and have a bright picture still. I really think this is the future, but it must come down in price to where it competes size, and price to FPs and Projectors.

Too bad they can't matrix four 55-inch 1080p OLED panels to make one big 110" 4K display.  Surely that would be less expensive than a 110-inch 4K OLED panel. 
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSMike on November 18, 2016, 05:31:22 AM
Too bad they can't matrix four 55-inch 1080p OLED panels to make one big 110" 4K display.  Surely that would be less expensive than a 110-inch 4K OLED panel.

But you would be able to see a line where the panels met. If viewed from far enough away, you might not see the line, but from most normal viewing distances, you would. That would be distracting to me.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on November 22, 2016, 09:51:08 AM
New 4K UHD Blu Ray releases seem stuck at 156 titles -

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/search.php?action=search&videoresolutionid=2683&sortby=releasetimestamp

Come on Sony - where is " The 5th Element " and " Leon - The Professional " in 4K ??
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ShadeRF on November 22, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Sony should have plenty to release after they did their Mastered in 4k line on Blu-ray. All of these titles should have been day 1 for 4k UHD BD
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on November 22, 2016, 03:14:43 PM
Sony should have plenty to release after they did their Mastered in 4k line on Blu-ray. All of these titles should have been day 1 for 4k UHD BD

It wasn't like I was going to buy the movies yet again on Blu ray, especially when I saw the " Mastered In 4k ". This is like the old " Where's the Beef " Wendy's commercial. Where's the 4K ?
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: richlife69 on December 02, 2016, 12:21:44 PM
It wasn't like I was going to buy the movies yet again on Blu ray, especially when I saw the " Mastered In 4k ". This is like the old " Where's the Beef " Wendy's commercial. Where's the 4K ?

I agree.  Depending on the source, it's hard to know what improvement a 4K release will provide over simple upscaling.  Since both The Fifth Element and Leon were just re-released with Atmos encoding, is there anything worth doing a 4K re-master? 
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on December 02, 2016, 01:07:17 PM
I agree.  Depending on the source, it's hard to know what improvement a 4K release will provide over simple upscaling.  Since both The Fifth Element and Leon were just re-released with Atmos encoding, is there anything worth doing a 4K re-master?

They were re-mastered in 4K, for that " Remastered in 4K " Blu Ray release. I'm guessing they both will look better, on the actual 4K UHD. Where is that ? I'll buy it now, if it is available. Sony moves so slow, i guess I'll put it on my list for next years Black Friday sales.  ???
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: stridsvognen on December 02, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
I agree.  Depending on the source, it's hard to know what improvement a 4K release will provide over simple upscaling.  Since both The Fifth Element and Leon were just re-released with Atmos encoding, is there anything worth doing a 4K re-master?

The Fifth Element remastered in 4K is in my opinion a mess, enhancement that has addet edge ringing, and some scenes look so bad that the NTSC DVD would look better upscaled.. So it looks more like they are more focused on making something that looks different than better, hope they will not pass that on to the UHD edition.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ellisr63 on December 02, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
I agree.  Depending on the source, it's hard to know what improvement a 4K release will provide over simple upscaling.  Since both The Fifth Element and Leon were just re-released with Atmos encoding, is there anything worth doing a 4K re-master?
True. Your current setup might look just as good upscaled through your AVR or Projector with out buying a replacement 4K disc, other than getting Atmos channels. Sad thing is some of the Manufacturers are resorting to putting the Atmos channels only on 4K discs.  :(
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: richlife69 on December 03, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
True. Your current setup might look just as good upscaled through your AVR or Projector with out buying a replacement 4K disc, other than getting Atmos channels. Sad thing is some of the Manufacturers are resorting to putting the Atmos channels only on 4K discs.  :(

Yes, and frankly, they win.  That's one of the reasons I'm moving on to a 4K BR player.  Though I admit that, with an aging BR player and a 4K tv, that has been the intent.  But now it's NOW.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on December 13, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
Come on studios - where are the new 4K Blu Rays ? The count of available or announced but not released yet has crept from 160 titles to a whopping 162 titles over the last 2 weeks !  >:(
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: DavidHir on December 13, 2016, 01:01:49 PM
I'm hoping for some good sales close to Christmas to pick up some current titles as I just started buying UHD BDs.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on January 10, 2017, 01:09:54 PM
Finally - The 5th Element on 4K Blu Ray is coming !

" All right, let’s have more on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray from CES 2017, plus a bit of regular Blu-ray announcement news too...

First up, we have reliable word that Sony Pictures Home Entertainment is listing Luc Besson’s The Fifth Element for release on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray format on 7/11. That makes a ton of sense, because Besson’s Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (2017) arrives in theatres on 7/21 (from STX Entertainment). "

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/010516_1530
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: richlife69 on January 10, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
That's great!  But make sure it has Atmos.

I just bought the bluray with Atmos for all of $8 before the holiday.  Absolutely blew me away!  But I have yet to watch it on my OPPO.  Guess what's high in the priority list? 

Now we just need LOTR in UHD Atmos...  (well, maybe not "just"...)

Man!  that whole idea just sends shivers down my spine!
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on January 10, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
That's great!  But make sure it has Atmos.

I just bought the bluray with Atmos for all of $8 before the holiday.  Absolutely blew me away!  But I have yet to watch it on my OPPO.  Guess what's high in the priority list? 

Now we just need LOTR in UHD Atmos...  (well, maybe not "just"...)

Man!  that whole idea just sends shivers down my spine!

I'd be just as happy if it has DTS : X !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on January 11, 2017, 03:46:36 PM
Arrival 4K Blu-ray
Posted 19 hours ago

Paramount Home Media Distribution has announced that it will release on 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray acclaimed Canadian director Denis Villeneuve's latest film, Arrival (2016), starring Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner, Forest Whitaker, Michael Stuhlbarg, Mark O'Brien, and Tzi Ma. The two releases will be available for purchase on February 14.

YES !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on April 05, 2017, 03:03:13 PM
Prometheus is now listed as coming on 4k UHD BR. Along with another favorite of mine - Ex Machina. I've currently got 8 movies in my Amazon wish list that are coming on 4K, 6 of them new ( or new to me ) !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ShadeRF on April 06, 2017, 06:14:02 AM
Prometheus is now listed as coming on 4k UHD BR. Along with another favorite of mine - Ex Machina. I've currently got 8 movies in my Amazon wish list that are coming on 4K, 6 of them new ( or new to me ) !

Super excited for this one. Short of perhaps an Alien 4k announcement as well I couldn't be more thrilled.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on April 06, 2017, 08:13:39 AM
Super excited for this one. Short of perhaps an Alien 4k announcement as well I couldn't be more thrilled.

And perhaps this signals that the new Alien : Covenant film will be released on 4K too - I'm looking forward to this movie !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: DavidHir on April 09, 2017, 08:55:56 AM
Godfather trilogy coming to UHD BD this year?  Day 1 purchase! :o

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=290671
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on April 09, 2017, 09:58:37 AM
Godfather trilogy coming to UHD BD this year?  Day 1 purchase! :o

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=290671

The slow ( but sure ) rollout continues !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on April 10, 2017, 02:23:33 PM
Godfather trilogy coming to UHD BD this year?  Day 1 purchase! :o

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=290671

Bridge on the River Kwai too !

http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/45955/thebridgeontheriverkwaiultrahdbluray.html
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on April 10, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
" We’ve gotten more confirmation too from sources that Sony is preparing The Bridge on the River Kwai for 4K UHD release later this year, and that Paramount is preparing The Godfather films for 4K UHD, though we don’t have a timetable for that release. I’ve actually seen tests of both titles on the format and they’re impressive as hell. "

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/040717-1900
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 02, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
The new title roll out of 4K UHD Blu-ray titles has slowed to a crawl !  >:(
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 04, 2017, 12:04:24 PM
4K titles at blu-ray.com jumped to 247 listed titles -

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/search.php?action=search&videoresolutionid=2683&sortby=releasetimestamp

I'm looking forward to " The Lost City of Z " on 4K !
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: richlife69 on May 08, 2017, 07:46:40 AM
The new title roll out of 4K UHD Blu-ray titles has slowed to a crawl !  >:(

Yeah!  The only reason I "liked" this post was because I liked the "frown"!   >:( >:(
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 13, 2017, 11:13:41 AM
I knew Leon would come out on 4K - Léon: The Professional (1994) 4K UHD - July 11, 2017

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=13590860#post13590860
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: richlife69 on May 13, 2017, 12:55:12 PM
I knew Leon would come out on 4K - Léon: The Professional (1994) 4K UHD - July 11, 2017

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=13590860#post13590860

Let us know what you think.  I have Leon in BR with Atmos, so I'm not much inclined to get the UHD unless it is pretty special. 
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 13, 2017, 03:55:50 PM
Let us know what you think.  I have Leon in BR with Atmos, so I'm not much inclined to get the UHD unless it is pretty special.

You got the last " remastered in 4K " version, correct ? I decided to wait for this. I assume the same Blu-ray you got will be included with the 4K disc.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: claw on May 15, 2017, 08:34:34 AM
Best Buy has UHD disc pre-order up for both Fifth Element (SteelBook) and Leon.   Both priced at $22.99 with free shipping.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 15, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Best Buy has UHD disc pre-order up for both Fifth Element (SteelBook) and Leon.   Both priced at $22.99 with free shipping.

I think I'll wait for the reviews first. No hurry on this.
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: bmoney on May 15, 2017, 10:13:03 AM
ill grab unforgiven (can you beleive Ive never seen it)

also thinking about grabbing the mummy trilogy (dont own the BD)
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 15, 2017, 11:35:36 AM
How long until this classic comes out on 4K ?

(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18425311_10212873926303979_6533218831862547059_n.jpg?oh=8b358e45174fb13e8c0ec5be9da7349d&oe=59B647AD)
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 19, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
ill grab unforgiven (can you beleive Ive never seen it)

also thinking about grabbing the mummy trilogy (dont own the BD)

Unforgiven just got reviewed - http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Unforgiven-4K-Blu-ray/165822/#Review
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: ed weinman on May 20, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
How long until this classic comes out on 4K ?

(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18425311_10212873926303979_6533218831862547059_n.jpg?oh=8b358e45174fb13e8c0ec5be9da7349d&oe=59B647AD)

AVSCraig,

...you've opened a remarkable can of classic possibilities...just think of the 3-strip technicolor films from the past that
would probably be mind blowing in 4K...of course, if especially Warner Bros. would do us the honor of investing and releasing the outstanding library of films at their beck and command...

...just a note...the discription of "The Wizard of Oz" that you've posted is weird to say the least...It makes the classic sound as if it is a film noir...
Title: Re: 4K UHD News
Post by: AVSCraig on May 20, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
AVSCraig,

...you've opened a remarkable can of classic possibilities...just think of the 3-strip technicolor films from the past that
would probably be mind blowing in 4K...of course, if especially Warner Bros. would do us the honor of investing and releasing the outstanding library of films at their beck and command...

...just a note...the discription of "The Wizard of Oz" that you've posted is weird to say the least...It makes the classic sound as if it is a film noir...

When they restored Wizard of Oz, Singing in the Rain, Ben Hur and a probably a few others, they scanned them at 4K and down rezed it for the Blu ray release. It shouldn't be much trouble to release a 4K version. My wallet is ready.....
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