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General => Misc. Fun Stuff => Topic started by: tripplej on January 28, 2024, 10:20:23 PM
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Super Bowl LVIII will be played at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada on Sunday, February 11, 2024.
Super Bowl LVIII
- Date: Sunday, Feb. 11, 2024
- Time: 6:30 PM, ET
- Location: Allegiant Stadium
- Channels: CBS, Nickelodeon
- Streaming: Paramount+ (https://www.paramountplus.com/?ftag=PPM-24-10aef1a)
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What a game and comeback tonight by the Niners. Lions just had too many dropped passes and misses on 4th down plays. I know David went on quite the roller coaster ride tonight with that 24-7 halftime score!
Mahomes & Reid are just so tough, as Baltimore found out - KC's D has been incredible. Not sure SF can afford for Purdy to have another stinker for a full half vs the Chiefs. Great matchup though.
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terrible game management down the stretch for the Lions cost them
Get it D Vaughn!
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Is anybody else besides me tired of seeing "Tay-Tay" every time Kelce makes a play? He's not the only member on the team, but I guess it helps that he is dating one of the most famous people on the planet. It's a football game, not the Grammy's
I would have loved to see the Ravens and the Lions go to the SuperBowl since my beloved Bills were out of the picture. 8)
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Is anybody else besides me tired of seeing "Tay-Tay" every time Kelce makes a play? He's not the only member on the team, but I guess it helps that he is dating one of the most famous people on the planet. It's a football game, not the Grammy's
I would have loved to see the Ravens and the Lions go to the SuperBowl since my beloved Bills were out of the picture. 8)
Sooooooo annoying. I saw a stat that the chiefs have earned over $300million in revenue from her exposure at games.
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I saw a tally of her appearances from last night... 5, for 33 seconds.
Methinks some people are protesting too much. ::)
(For the record, I'm neither a Swifty, nor a hater... haven't listened to any of her music but she seems like one of the nicest and most grounded stars.)
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If Chiefs win superbowl, she should get the MVP!
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I was cracking up at the Madden Football options for the next one:
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Sorry for the late reply...I've been travelling all week on business (even on Sunday). I was lucky hotel security wasn't called on me with shouts of joy in the second half when they rolled off 27 straight points. Of all the contenders out of the AFC, KC would be the one that I'd want to play. Outside of Kelce and Mahommes, their offense isn't as potent as in past years and their defensive front isn't elite (they have injuries also). Purdy didn't play well in the first half due to poor offensive blocking, but man did he turn things up in the second half. In fact, his QBR was 99.1 (100 is perfect) in the second half--best half of football a QB has ever played in a playoff game in the history of the NFL (seriously...that's a fact). I think the 49ers win the game 27-23 in a nail biter.
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Isn’t 158 the highest QBR??
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Nvm. You’re talking about total qbr. I was thinking passer rating.
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I didn't realize that about Purdy's 2nd half.
BTW, the 158.7 for the passer rating # the NFL uses, is a "max" that the calculation produces, not a "perfect score". (Not sure what that would be other than a TD on every pass lol.)
I don't have a big favorite for the SB, but I would just say this - Andy Reid isn't making the mistakes that Dan Campbell made. Nor will Mahomes, in all likelihood. Niners will have to play a more complete game to win this one. KC's D has been great all year and due to the star at QB still doesn't quite get the credit it probably deserves for them being in Vegas for this game.
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I didn't realize that about Purdy's 2nd half.
BTW, the 158.7 for the passer rating # the NFL uses, is a "max" that the calculation produces, not a "perfect score". (Not sure what that would be other than a TD on every pass lol.)
I don't have a big favorite for the SB, but I would just say this - Andy Reid isn't making the mistakes that Dan Campbell made. Nor will Mahomes, in all likelihood. Niners will have to play a more complete game to win this one. KC's D has been great all year and due to the star at QB still doesn't quite get the credit it probably deserves for them being in Vegas for this game.
49ers will have to play their A game for 4 quarters to win.
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I’m rooting for the 9’ers
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Are you ready for some football ???
Tonight is the night.
May the better team win!
lol
:)
Thanks,
Jojoe
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Are you ready for some football ???
Tonight is the night.
May the better team win!
lol
:)
Thanks,
Jojoe
I hope the better team on paper wins...that would be the 49ers :)
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I just hope everyone has fun.
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I just hope everyone has fun.
nah...I just want the 49ers to win :D
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Mahomes & Reid plus a very good D with Steve Spagnuolo calling plays on D have me thinking KC has an edge where it matters most and wins a close game. Just hoping for a great game, though I’d like to hear David yelling from the opposite coast. ;D
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Mahomes & Reid plus a very good D with Steve Spagnuolo calling plays on D have me thinking KC has an edge where it matters most and wins a close game. Just hoping for a great game, though I’d like to hear David yelling from the opposite coast. ;D
Chiefs defense is very good, but they have yet to face an offense with this much firepower. If you follow football, this is the 4th best offense the NFL has seen in the past 40+ years. They can put up points fast and with 2 weeks to prepare, I think they'll be in good shape against whatever KC throws their way. Plus, Spags likes to blitz and Purdy has the highest passer rating against the blitz in the NFL this year. One other thing...when Deebo, CMC, Williams and Purdy are all on the field together, they are 15-1. Also, when scoring 21 points or more, Purdy is undefeated in his career. And yes, you'll be able to hear me from anywhere in the world :)
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What a game! Went to OT..
Congrats to the chiefs!
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One thing I learned. Kelce is a douche.
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He does seem to have some anger management issues.. Hope for her (taylor) sake, he seeks therapy!
https://7news.com.au/sport/nfl/travis-kelce-under-fire-for-physical-confrontation-with-kansas-city-chiefs-coach-andy-reid-during-super-bowl-c-13557573
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how he wasn't immediately and indefinitely benched after that is a crime
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Congrats to the Chiefs and their fans. 49ers didn't capitalize when they had their chances in the first half and the muffed punt was the turning point of the game. Set the defense up for failure on a short field.
I feel horrible for Dre Greenlaw tearing his Achilles...he's such an inspirational player for the defense and losing his speed allowed Kelce to thrive (he had 1 catch for 1 yard up until that point in the game).
Shanahan made some bonehead decisions in the second half. First three possessions, 8 passes and 1 run--that's coaching malpractice as far as I'm concerned. Not controlling the ball ended up wearing out the defense. As soon as he started running the ball again, they magically started to put drives together and points on the board.
Also, not running the ball with 2 minutes left in the game (or throwing a screen pass) when KC was showing blitz was just horrible play calling. It's 3rd and 5 and you run it there and pick up 3 yards, you can go for it on 4th down and ensure that Mahomes never gets to touch the ball again. I'm sure he's going to have more Super Bowl nightmares with the way he called the second half.
Mahomes may end up going down in history as the best QB of all time. You can't allow him to beat you and unfortunately, the 49ers played right into his hands. I'm so depressed today :(
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Superbowl was the highest ever! Maybe due to Swift!
from variety (https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/super-bowl-2024-ratings-viewers-1235907666/),
The Feb. 11 Super Bowl game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49ers brought in an average of 123.4 million viewers — the highest number of people watching the same broadcast in the history of television.
112 million of those viewers were tuned into the CBS (https://variety.com/t/cbs/) broadcast — the largest audience ever for a single network. The rest were measured across Paramount+, Nickelodeon, Univision, CBS Sports and NFL digital properties including NFL+. Per Paramount Global, Paramount+ saw record-breaking viewership that made Sunday the most-streamed Super Bowl ever, but exact data regarding streaming views isn’t available.
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I watched the game late and in a slightly less than 100% frame of mind as I got to experience the joy of having a sudden range of symptoms late Sunday afternoon from what turned out to be a kidney stone. Fine now & thankfully passed it Monday night but that little sucker was agonizing for a while until I got serious meds.
The game was kind of sloppy for a while with TOs and the defenses were outplaying the offenses, which I don't mind seeing. Weird stuff happened a bit more for SF, the Greenlaw injury was just as bizarre an injury as I can recall. KC just seemed a bit more ready to take advantage of opportunities and obviously Mahomes is a big part of that. Comments from players about the OT made it clear that KC was much more prepared situationally by Reid. I don't fault Shanahan though for the decision he made given his D was drained and had a fair bit of success earlier. Resting them to start could have worked if they had been able to punch in a TD on the first OT drive.
This was supposed to be the year where KC would take a step back and others would have a better shot, so it's looking like it'll be tough to keep Mahomes from following his path to match or exceed Brady.
Also, re: Kelce and Reid. The comments about that are a bit overblown. Intense competition at the highest level brings that out sometimes and Reid noted afterwards that he appreciates Kelce's desire. If you watch a lot of football you will see those flare ups happen.
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For me, it was the commercials.
My vote for best commercial goes to Dunkin' - Affleck/Damon/Brady/JLo - how much better can you get? LMAO ;D
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Ha, I skipped the commercials & halftime completely due to late watch time. (VERY thankful I added extra time to my recording!) But I did go back and view the Dunkin Donuts one, that was a fun one. Affleck & Damon ride again.
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Pictures from our party. We weren’t rooting for any particular team to win. We have an annual party each year:
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First to paydirt is a lot of fun. Each guest puts in two 5.00 bills and then draws a name. If their player scores the first TD they get half the money and then we do the same for the second half. It’s awesome seeing everyone so involved and excited hoping their guy gets in first. What was even funnier was watching one of our 7 year old twins take her wallet out and pick out two fives and then draw a name. She held her ticket the entire game. Great times….
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Nickelodeon channel had the super bowl on and they animated it. From all indications, it was a hit.
You have to go to youtube to see it, click here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuYNuxBiEKw)
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So taking the ball second in OT has turned into the equivalent of being the home team in baseball. Huge advantage.
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Pictures from our party. We weren’t rooting for any particular team to win. We have an annual party each year:
Wow - you go a bit nuts for Super Bowl, eh? ::)
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So taking the ball second in OT has turned into the equivalent of being the home team in baseball. Huge advantage.
It used to be an absolute no brainer to always take the ball first in OT. I'm glad they have changed it so that there is more of a strategic decision there and it could go either way depending on circumstances. Shanahan had 2 legit reasons for wanting the ball first.
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Thankfully, he fired his horrendous defensive coordinator today. That clown blew the game in OT....he had KC at 2nd and 14 and played a soft zone versus putting the pressure on KC to convert in tight windows. Glad Wilks is on the unemployment line today. I hope they hire Mike Vrabel as their next defensive coordinator, or better yet, his former boss, Bill Belichick (a guy can dream, can't he?)
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Uh... the D held the Chiefs to 19 in regulation despite losing a key starter and the O having key failures. Was he responsible for the offense getting close in OT but failing to get what ended up being a needed TD? Was he responsible for the missed PAT, or the fumble, or the muffed punt return?
Obviously I don't follow closely but SF had the #3 defense for 2023 in the advanced stats ranking. If they can pull Vrabel, that's probably for just 1 year. So I'm not sure I get the move. But I guess the urge to hold someone accountable after Shanahan's 3rd blown double digit lead in the SB can't fall on the head guy yet.
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Uh... the D held the Chiefs to 19 in regulation despite losing a key starter and the O having key failures. Was he responsible for the offense getting close in OT but failing to get what ended up being a needed TD? Was he responsible for the missed PAT, or the fumble, or the muffed punt return?
Obviously I don't follow closely but SF had the #3 defense for 2023 in the advanced stats ranking. If they can pull Vrabel, that's probably for just 1 year. So I'm not sure I get the move. But I guess the urge to hold someone accountable after Shanahan's 3rd blown double digit lead in the SB can't fall on the head guy yet.
He wasn't fired because he was a bad coach or because they lost the Super Bowl. He was fired because his game calls didn't synch with the defensive skills of the players on hand. The front 4 were not in synch with the back half of the defense for much of the year and the defense fell from #1 to #3 with essentially the same, if not better, players on the defense (Hargrave was added to the DL this year along with Young and Gregory), but they were a worse team that the previous 2 years. This was particularly apparent in stopping the rush. They absolutely sucked the last half of the year and went from Top 5 to Bottom 7 in one year--that's not good.
Shanahan definitely deserves criticism for how he handled the 4th quarter and OT. He coached afraid instead of seizing the opportunity. On 3rd and 5 with 2 minutes to go in the game, why not play for two downs and rush the ball on third down--if you don't make it, you can still kick the FG (if that's your backup plan), but by rushing you accomplish multiple things. First, you force KC to use one of its two remaining timeouts. If you get a positive play of 2-3 yards, it makes going for it on 4th down that much easier (which at 4th and less than 3 you freaking go for it and if you don't make it, you have justification to say "we were going for the win and didn't want to give Mahomes a chance to beat us). Not many would be critical of that choice (I know I wouldn't). Even if you decide not to run the ball on third down, call a freaking screen. On every third down and less than 7 yards in the second half, KC brought a blitz in the second half--by not calling a screen pass, you play right into their hands. This is just Kyle outthinking himself.
My final thought--Kyle didn't lose the Super Bowl for Atlanta. That's on Dan Quinn, who was in charge of the defense. He had a 25 point lead with one quarter to go and it's inexcusable for the defense to give up so many points. I know Kyle gets the blame because of the way he handled the last series of the game, but Quinn's defense didn't do him any favors.
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Thanks David, good info and points.
Football's always been a team game, and having the offense, defense and special teams play in sync in some ways matters. One of my football message board friends has a longstanding antipathy towards full out "spread" type offenses because of their typical impact on defenses, and we've seen that play out with Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma then USC. I saw Shanahan's comments later about Wilks not being a good fit, and as the HC that's certainly something he's got more detailed thoughts on including what you mentioned, and within his charge to set the direction.
Hope y'all get back, and I hope it's vs the Bengals this time - though I wouldn't be rooting for SF lol.
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Thanks David, good info and points.
Football's always been a team game, and having the offense, defense and special teams play in sync in some ways matters. One of my football message board friends has a longstanding antipathy towards full out "spread" type offenses because of their typical impact on defenses, and we've seen that play out with Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma then USC. I saw Shanahan's comments later about Wilks not being a good fit, and as the HC that's certainly something he's got more detailed thoughts on including what you mentioned, and within his charge to set the direction.
Hope y'all get back, and I hope it's vs the Bengals this time - though I wouldn't be rooting for SF lol.
Paul,
My preseason Super Bowl prediction was the 49ers versus the Bengals. I didn't expect Burrow to get injured, which killed their chances of a playoff run. I would have been rooting for the red and gold though :)
All good though...I have no hate towards fans of other teams (well, maybe a little for Cowboy's fans ;)). I just hope we get great games to watch. While I hated the result of Sunday's game, it's going to go down as one of the best Super Bowl games ever. Sadly, the 49ers took three different leads in the game and the Chiefs were able to come back each time. Funny thing is, I read a stat that since 2018, the Chiefs have been the luckiest team in the playoffs (they used a formula to determine what constituted luck) For example, the ball hit the ground 7 times in the game Sunday and the Chiefs recovered 6 of the 7 fumbles. Talk about luck!
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From NinersNation.com:
Was firing Steve Wilks the right choice for the 49ers?
The timing is certainly interesting, as Wilks was coming off a Super Bowl (https://www.sbnation.com/super-bowl) performance where his defense had their best outing in the playoffs, effectively shutting down Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs (https://www.arrowheadpride.com/) for a good portion of the game.
However, Wilks was overruled in the final minutes of the game when head coach Kyle Shanahan called a timeout on defense after seeing a look, raising questions about the disconnect in philosophy that had been brewing over the course of the season.
Now, the 49ers' defense wasn’t bad by any means in 2023, but it’s safe to say they experienced some regression, despite courting their entire core of elite players.
On the season, they dropped from the league’s best defense in terms of yards allowed in 2022 to the eight-best in 2023.
Looking at the expected points added (EPA) per play, the 49ers, who were first in 2022, also faced a drop, going to No. 12 this season.
More importantly, Wilks’s unit couldn’t get off the field, ranking 24th in third down conversion rate allowed, which was an issue that popped up in the Super Bowl over Kansas City’s final three drives, where the Chiefs converted on five of their seven chances.
However, this move stems far beyond the numbers and the Super Bowl performance over the first 3.5 quarters.
There was a clear disconnect between Wilks and his players, as well as between him and Shanahan.
The first clear sign came when Shanahan publicly outed Wilks for his inexcusable Cover-0 call against the Minnesota Vikings (https://www.dailynorseman.com/) which ultimately was an influential mistake in that game.
Later on, amid struggles at the bye week, Wilks was asked to leave the booth to coach from the sidelines, despite expressing a preference for working from upstairs when he was hired.
Then, from Weeks 13-17, the defense really began to take some steps in the wrong direction, ranking 23rd in EPA/play, while the team’s run defense ranked 26th in EPA/play.
The struggles were amplified in the playoffs, as the 49ers got off to slow starts in both of their first two games before making the necessary adjustments in comeback victories over the Green Bay Packers (https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/) and Detroit Lions (https://www.prideofdetroit.com/).
Now, there was still a good amount of progress with Wilks’s unit, as the 49ers were a top-five unit in takeaways per game, while players like Deommodore Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, and Ji’Ayir Brown took steps forward to becoming key pieces on the defense.
But, at the end of the day, there was too much of a disconnect between the front seven and the secondary that led to too many issues for such a talented unit.
Even if the 49ers had won the Super Bowl, it felt that a Wilks firing was inevitable, as San Francisco has been an organization that has cut their losses at the right moment, rather than delaying those issues.
This wasn’t a decision that was made to call out a scapegoat; instead, this was a move that had been brewing over the entire second half of the season, and ultimately the way San Francisco had to go for better results in 2024.
Overall, this is a move that still reflects on Kyle Shanahan, who tasked the wrong man for the job, especially when considering the 49ers’ desired scheme and the style that Wilks has been accustomed to at his previous stops.
Now, after it felt that Shanahan had to take a more hands-on approach this season on the defensive end, he’ll hope to erase those issues by nailing his next hire at defensive coordinator.