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Title: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: Barry on June 15, 2023, 08:14:19 PM
 A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
 
A non-spoiler review should tell you little more than what you can see in the coming attractions.
 
If you like the super-hero movies and followed the DC universe, this is a good movie for you to see. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.  And I cannot tell you how many times I was surprised!
 
In the Comics, DC “invented” the Multiverse with the “Flash of Two Worlds” in issue 123, 1962.  Marvel Began to use it with “What If” in 1975.
 
In the movies, Doctor Strange was the first to use it, 2016 and, as here, time travel created the multiverse. The Arrowverse TV show used it in 2019-2020 in “Crisis On Infinite Earth” based on the comic from 1986.
 
Here, a troubled Barry Allen speeds back into the past to save his mom and dad.  He then messes up the time-line and most confront and then cure it.  He meets the Michael Keaton Batman in a way you don’t expect and I won’t spoil.  Keaton, tough is just terrific. The film also references just about all the latest DC movies. The movie can be funny, and believe it or not, also moved me to tears. The fight at the end, as with all these movies is a bit too long, but, her there is a reason for it.
 
There are many cameos and I just will not spoil it. The ideas and surprises were terrific. Just stay tuned after the end credits, there is another scene with a surprise guest.
 
I saw this in a filled Dolby Cinema and the picture and sound were great.  The sound was again a bit loud. If you like this sort of thing, you’ll like this.


Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 15, 2023, 08:49:03 PM
A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
 
A non-spoiler review should tell you little more than what you can see in the coming attractions.
 
If you like the super-hero movies and followed the DC universe, this is a good movie for you to see. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.  And I cannot tell you how many times I was surprised!
 
In the Comics, DC “invented” the Multiverse with the “Flash of Two Worlds” in issue 123, 1962.  Marvel Began to use it with “What If” in 1975.
 
In the movies, Doctor Strange was the first to use it, 2016 and, as here, time travel created the multiverse. The Arrowverse TV show used it in 2019-2020 in “Crisis On Infinite Earth” based on the comic from 1986.
 
Here, a troubled Barry Allen speeds back into the past to save his mom and dad.  He then messes up the time-line and most confront and then cure it.  He meets the Michael Keaton Batman in a way you don’t expect and I won’t spoil.  Keaton, tough is just terrific. The film also references just about all the latest DC movies. The movie can be funny, and believe it or not, also moved me to tears. The fight at the end, as with all these movies is a bit too long, but, her there is a reason for it.
 
There are many cameos and I just will not spoil it. The ideas and surprises were terrific. Just stay tuned after the end credits, there is another scene with a surprise guest.
 
I saw this in a filled Dolby Cinema and the picture and sound were great.  The sound was again a bit loud. If you like this sort of thing, you’ll like this.
If the star of this movie wasn't such a crackpot, I'd go see it in the theaters. But alas, I'll wait for home video. 

Thanks for the review Barry. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: AVSCraig on June 15, 2023, 10:19:55 PM
If the star of this movie wasn't such a crackpot, I'd go see it in the theaters. But alas, I'll wait for home video.

Thanks for the review Barry.
Wow - this guy ( or them I suppose ) has issues! Ezra Miller - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller)

If he keeps doing the stuff he's been doing, his career will be a " Flash in the pan "!
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 16, 2023, 07:29:43 AM
Yeah. I think alot of actors are weird. But I don’t go see the movie for what type of people they are lol. Look forward to seeing it
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: Barry on June 16, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
David,

You know I respect your opinion, but just because the star is troubled is no reason, for me, not to see the movie.  First, there are other people involved, such as  Keaton, and they deserve attention. And  iller gives two surprisingly different performances as the same person.

But this truly is a movie for DC movie fans, the more you know of the DC movies, the more you will like this.  I just had a good time and don’t want you to miss it.
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 16, 2023, 10:41:43 AM
David,

You know I respect your opinion, but just because the star is troubled is no reason, for me, not to see the movie.  First, there are other people involved, such as  Keaton, and they deserve attention. And  iller gives two surprisingly different performances as the same person.

But this truly is a movie for DC movie fans, the more you know of the DC movies, the more you will like this.  I just had a good time and don’t want you to miss it.
I'll see it for sure, but I'm not sure if it will be in the theaters or not. My wife isn't a DC fan at all (she says the movies are too dark). 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: AVSCraig on June 16, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
Yeah. I think alot of actors are weird. But I don’t go see the movie for what type of people they are lol. Look forward to seeing it
True, but this guy is going to go to prison if he keeps sleeping with 12 year olds and choking women in bars. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 16, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
True, but this guy is going to go to prison if he keeps sleeping with 12 year olds and choking women in bars.
allegedly.
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 16, 2023, 12:02:12 PM
allegedly.
Where there's smoke there's fire. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: Barry on June 16, 2023, 12:14:47 PM
Where there's smoke there's fire.
You are absolutely right! We don’t need proof or trials.social media is always right!
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: AVSCraig on June 16, 2023, 12:58:17 PM
You are absolutely right! We don’t need proof or trials.social media is always right!
He has been arrested several times, had restraining orders issued against him, etc., so it's not all " social media ". 

Hawaii arrests
On March 28, 2022, Miller was arrested in Hawaii (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii) following what police said was a physical altercation with patrons after having hurled obscenities at customers at a karaoke bar and was charged with disorderly conduct and harassment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment).[50] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-51)[51] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-52) Miller later claimed that they became enraged after being "accosted by a Nazi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism)". During the arrest, Miller claimed that they were being "unlawfully persecuted" and, after members of the police misgendered them, accused the officers of intentionally committing a hate crime (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime).[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19)
Three weeks later, on April 19, 2022, Miller was again taken into custody for second-degree assault (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault) by Leilani Estates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leilani_Estates,_Hawaii) Subdivision police authorities in Pāhoa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahoa,_Hawaii). According to Midi Libre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midi_Libre), they were arrested for throwing a chair, which hit a 26-year-old woman and left a half-inch cut on her forehead, after being told to leave during a private get-together.[52] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-53) Miller was arrested 20 minutes after the attack during a traffic stop in Kea'au (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keaau,_Hawaii).[53] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-54)[54] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-55) Just hours after this second arrest, Miller pleaded no contest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleaded_no_contest) to the karaoke incident and was fined $500 for disorderly conduct by judge Kanani Laubach.[55] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-56)[56] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-57)
Hawaii restraining order
A Hawaii couple gained a temporary restraining order against Miller on March 31, 2022 after Miller allegedly barged into their bedroom and threatened them, hours after they were released from their arrest for an altercation at a karaoke bar in Hilo. They were also accused of stealing a passport as well as a wallet containing a social security card, driver's license and bank cards. The couple later withdrew their petition on April 11.[57] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-58)[58] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-59)
Relationship with Tokata Iron Eyes
In June 2022, the Standing Rock Sioux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_Rock_Sioux) tribal court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_court) issued a temporary order of protection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_protection) against Miller on behalf of 18-year-old activist Tokata Iron Eyes. Her parents, Chase Iron Eyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Iron_Eyes) and Sara Jumping Eagle, requested the court order because, they said, of Miller's use of "violence, intimidation, threat of violence, fear, paranoia, delusions, and drugs" to hold sway over their child.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-Tenbarge_2022-2) The relationship between Miller and Iron Eyes, which began in 2016 when Miller was aged 23 and Iron Eyes was aged 12, also included Iron Eyes flying to London (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London) in 2017 to visit Miller on the set of The Crimes of Grindelwald. Iron Eyes dropped out of school in 2021, which her parents believe she did in order to follow Miller. Her parents also stated in court documents that Miller had caused bruises on their child's body, and that Miller has groomed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming) and manipulated her.[59] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-Grooming-60) Text and video responses were later posted on the Instagram account believed to belong to Iron Eyes, denying her parents' allegations; however, the parents countered by claiming their child did not have control over her social media account. Iron Eyes stated in the video response that it was her own choice not to have a phone.[60] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-61)[61] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-62)[59] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-Grooming-60) Law enforcement were initially unable to locate Miller to serve them with the order.[62] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-63) Miller then posted messages on their Instagram account mocking the court's attempts to find them, but has since deleted them.[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-64) Iron Eyes' parents later attempted to obtain a permanent order of protection against Miller, but it was eventually dismissed. They also withdrew their request for the custody of Iron Eyes.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19)
In August, Miller's former music collaborator Oliver Ignatius stated that he had witnessed Miller verbally abuse Iron Eyes over her wearing makeup. Iron Eyes defended Miller by referring to the incident as "a catty comment" and a part of "queer dialogue"; she called the allegation of abuse "homophobic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia)".[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-InsiderUnraveling-44) According to a former resident of Miller's farm in Vermont (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont), Miller believed that people criticized their relationship with Iron Eyes because she is "an apocalyptic Native American spider goddess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_spiders#Americas)" who, along with Miller as Jesus Christ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus), will bring about an Indigenous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas) revolution. Miller allegedly refers to themselves as a Messiah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah) to Native Americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States), although Miller does not have Indigenous ancestry and is the sole person making this claim.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19) Vanity Fair interviewed people in Miller's circle and wrote that "'He [sic] professes that he walks through this world with an Indigenous humility and spiritual awareness,' says one Indigenous insider. 'But, point of fact, he doesn't at all. Because he doesn't care.'"[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19)
Harassment allegations
On June 16, 2022, a mother and her twelve-year-old child were granted a temporary harassment prevention order against Miller in Massachusetts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts) after they said that Miller threatened the woman's family and showed inappropriate behavior towards the child. According to the mother, child, and a neighbor, Miller, who was originally visiting a neighbor, showed up at the family's house unexpectedly while wearing a bulletproof vest and brandishing a gun before "pestering" the child by "uncomfortably" touching the child's hips.[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-65)[65] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-66)
The child's mother told Business Insider that Miller had known the family since February, had taken an interest in the child because of their "style and maturity level", and had offered to start a clothing line with the child and fund their attendance to a design school. The mother also said that Miller considered the child to be a powerful "mystical being" who "would be lucky to have Ezra to guide and protect them." Shortly before the order was granted in June, the mother stated, Miller arrived at the family's house dressed as a cowboy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy) and attempted to buy the child's horses.[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-InsiderUnraveling-44)
Vermont farm incidents
As reported by Rolling Stone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone), Miller has been housing a woman they met in Hilo, Hawaii (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilo,_Hawaii), and her three children on Miller's farm in Stamford, Vermont (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford,_Vermont), since mid-April 2022. Allegations from both anonymous and named sources as well as the children's father are that guns and ammunition are easily accessible to the children, aged 1–5 years old, and that the one-year-old put a loose bullet in her mouth. The woman claimed that Miller was offering them a shelter from her ex-husband, who she alleged was abusive. Further claims include assault rifles being propped up on piles of the children's stuffed animals, and "heavy marijuana use" with people smoking marijuana in front of the children in rooms without proper ventilation, including a witness stating that he "saw Miller blow marijuana smoke in the baby's face and use their arm to waft more smoke in the baby's direction."[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-InsiderUnraveling-44) Rolling Stone also published that Miller has been running a large, unlicensed marijuana cultivation operation.[66] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-67)
On the weekend of August 6, 2022, Vermont State Police approached Miller's residence and "repeatedly attempted to serve the mother an emergency care order that demanded the children's removal from her care and the home over fear for their safety... based on a [Department for Children and Families (DCF)] caseworker's affidavit, the State Attorney's office had requested two emergency care orders over the past week that sought to transfer legal custody of the children over to the state."[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-RSAug10-68) Police and social workers were unable to locate the children or the mother. Miller told police that the woman and her children do not live there, and have not "for the past two months".[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-RSAug10-68) Contradicting Miller, the DCF caseworker, in her affidavit to the Court, presented evidence that up until late July 2022, the woman had been regularly posting images on social media that confirm that she was living with Miller.[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-RSAug10-68) The Vermont State Attorney's office stated that Miller's response "seemed like an attempt to 'evade service'" of the order.[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-RSAug10-68)
Burglary charge
On August 7, 2022, Miller was charged with felony burglary in Stamford, Vermont, stemming from what the police report indicated was theft of bottles of alcohol from a private home in May 2022, according to Vermont State Police (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_State_Police).[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-moreau-69) According to the report, Miller was identified by police via video surveillance footage. Miller was due to be arraigned in court on September 26, 2022.[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-moreau-69) A week prior to the planned arraignment date, a representative for Miller stated that the home is owned by a former childhood friend of Miller's and that Miller believed that they were welcome to enter the home to obtain rice wine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_wine) for cooking.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19)
The arraignment was later pushed back to October 17, 2022.[69] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-ArraignmentDelay-70) Appearing in court remotely on that date, Miller pleaded not guilty to the charges.[70] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-71)[71] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-guardian-17oct2022-72) The next hearing on this case was scheduled for January 13, 2023.[71] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-guardian-17oct2022-72)[72] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-73) On January 12, 2023, they pleaded guilty to trespassing, leading to the burglary charge being dropped.[73] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-74) On January 13, 2023, Miller's trespassing plea was approved by the court.[74] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-hollywoodreporter/1235298780-75)
Treatment for mental health issues
On August 15, 2022, a representative of Miller released a statement to Variety in which Miller apologized for the past behavior, stating that Miller had recently "gone through a time of intense crisis" and had begun treatment for "complex mental health issues".[75] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-76) A September 2022 article in Vanity Fair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazine)) quoted others as saying Miller has claimed to be Jesus, the devil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil), and the next Messiah.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19) It also reported that they believed their relationship with Iron Eyes would bring about the apocalypse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse)[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19) and Freemasons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry) were sending demons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon) to kill them.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller#cite_note-VanityFair-19)



Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: AVSCraig on June 16, 2023, 01:01:45 PM
The guy is a wack job. Just as soon as he completely melts down and either kills someone or commits some crime that lands him in prison, he will star in his own Dateline episode - and not in a good way! 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 16, 2023, 04:00:55 PM
Has been convicted? I do t see anywhere where he has. Other than pleading guilty to trespassing. Everything else was dropped. 

Not saying he’s normal. But he’s INNOCENT unless proven otherwise. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 16, 2023, 04:30:47 PM
The guy is a whack job and when 23 years old is cavorting with a 12-year-old there's something seriously wrong with him.

Also, he did plead no contest (basically, guilty) to the incident in Hawaii as well. The track he is on is not going to end well...he'll either be dead in a few years from drug abuse or worse yet, kill someone (as Craig stated). 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 16, 2023, 08:30:04 PM
Indont disagree he has some issues. Lol. 

Like I said tons of Hollywood actors are odd. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 16, 2023, 09:36:57 PM
Indont disagree he has some issues. Lol.

Like I said tons of Hollywood actors are odd.
Odd is OK....criminal is not. This guy is a criminal and has some serious mental issues. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 17, 2023, 08:05:30 AM
Smh 🤦‍♂️ 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 17, 2023, 03:38:44 PM
Smh 🤦‍♂️
You say he's innocent until proven guilty...he's been proven guilty twice already. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 18, 2023, 12:04:06 AM
Why isn’t he imprisoned 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: Paul Heroy on June 18, 2023, 01:45:38 AM
Back to just the movie... saw it today with 3 other folks, 4 thumbs up. Very entertaining and thematically cohesive enough and tonally hit well. Much better integration of humor than Thor Love & Thunder, although that's not a high bar. I liked it better than most recent Marvel movies, the recent Spider-Verse being a notable exception. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 18, 2023, 07:47:37 AM
Although I’m not a huge fan of dc movies. I’m looking forward to this one.  
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 18, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
Why isn’t he imprisoned
Because America has turned much too soft on crime. Let's table the discussion though to allow people who have seen the film to talk about the film. I plan on eventually seeing it when it hits home video. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 18, 2023, 11:04:48 AM
Because America has turned much too soft on crime. Let's table the discussion though to allow people who have seen the film to talk about the film. I plan on eventually seeing it when it hits home video.
Agreed. Sorry to go off topic and make it confrontational. 
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: David Vaughn on June 18, 2023, 11:47:19 AM
Agreed. Sorry to go off topic and make it confrontational.
It's all good...we are all entitled to our own opinions and it's nice to see that we can have an adult interaction without anyone resorting to name calling :)
Title: Re: A non-spoiler Review of the Flash
Post by: bmoney on June 18, 2023, 08:58:49 PM
Agreed :)
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