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Audio => Preamps/Preamp-processors => Topic started by: AVSMike on November 22, 2022, 03:59:59 PM

Title: Marantz AV 10
Post by: AVSMike on November 22, 2022, 03:59:59 PM
These are now shipping. Questions or want to purchase, give myself, Craig or Jeff a call.
Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: bmoney on November 22, 2022, 08:35:42 PM
So these have Dirac?
Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: randman on November 27, 2022, 07:08:24 PM
So these have Dirac?

This has the timeline on Dirac:

https://www.audioholics.com/editorials/dirac-road-map-denon-marantz-2022

Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: bmoney on November 28, 2022, 07:02:21 AM
This has the timeline on Dirac:

https://www.audioholics.com/editorials/dirac-road-map-denon-marantz-2022
Thank you! Wow that’s a long ways away. And if history repeated itself with how Dirac and NAD/Emotiva rolled out Dirac and firmware upgrades it’s gonna be well after the set dates. 
Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: bmoney on November 28, 2022, 07:03:19 AM
Just noticed it’s a $250 upgrade too to get the limited version. Yowsers
Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: bmoney on November 28, 2022, 07:04:28 AM
But…you do get audyssey in the meantime so that’s a bonus 
Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: randman on November 28, 2022, 02:17:04 PM
Yeah, I'm curious how a well done Audyssey calibration compares to a well done Dirac calibration. I think Audyssey makes it very easy to calibrate a system, but the quick "set it and forget it approach" to doing an Audyssey calibration probably doesn't do it and one's HT justice (for example, using a receiver's built-in Audyssey calibration, as opposed to using the MultEQ app or MultEQ-X PC software, results in default settings that aren't often times desirable, such as having midrange compensation turned on by default). So, I'm curious how Audyssey would compare with Dirac if one were to put in the time and energy to do a good Audyssey calibration similar to putting in the time/energy to do a good Dirac calibration. Audyssey has Dynamic EQ, which is nice. AFAIK, Dirac doesn't have anything similar to Audyssey's Dynamic EQ. I guess having two presets in the Marantz would allow one to use one for Audyssey and another for Dirac. But it would be nice to have maybe 4 presets.... I have two rows of seating in my HT, so it would be nice to have a preset for when only people sit in the first row, and a second preset for when both rows are being used. Then use another set for just Dirac.

I use a miniDSP 2x4 HD (4 subs) with my old Marantz AV7705. I'm curious how well using the Marantz AV 10's 4 subwoofer outputs without the miniDSP would compare. miniDSP is nice, but it would be nice to simplify things if using the AV 10's subwoofer outputs along with good calibration software would suffice.

Title: Re: Marantz AV 10
Post by: AVSCraig on November 28, 2022, 02:54:45 PM
Yeah, I'm curious how a well done Audyssey calibration compares to a well done Dirac calibration. I think Audyssey makes it very easy to calibrate a system, but the quick "set it and forget it approach" to doing an Audyssey calibration probably doesn't do it and one's HT justice (for example, using a receiver's built-in Audyssey calibration, as opposed to using the MultEQ app or MultEQ-X PC software, results in default settings that aren't often times desirable, such as having midrange compensation turned on by default). So, I'm curious how Audyssey would compare with Dirac if one were to put in the time and energy to do a good Audyssey calibration similar to putting in the time/energy to do a good Dirac calibration. Audyssey has Dynamic EQ, which is nice. AFAIK, Dirac doesn't have anything similar to Audyssey's Dynamic EQ. I guess having two presets in the Marantz would allow one to use one for Audyssey and another for Dirac. But it would be nice to have maybe 4 presets.... I have two rows of seating in my HT, so it would be nice to have a preset for when only people sit in the first row, and a second preset for when both rows are being used. Then use another set for just Dirac.

I use a miniDSP 2x4 HD (4 subs) with my old Marantz AV7705. I'm curious how well using the Marantz AV 10's 4 subwoofer outputs without the miniDSP would compare. miniDSP is nice, but it would be nice to simplify things if using the AV 10's subwoofer outputs along with good calibration software would suffice.
I plan on finding out how the 4 subwoofer outputs compare to my Mini DSP with the Denon A1H. Also, I will get the MultiEQ-X program for sure this time around.
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