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What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017

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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2017, 10:03:24 AM »
I'd be very happy with a Laser RS620.  Native 4K really isn't of much interest to me, I don't think I have the seating position, or eyesight (uncorrected is good, but not perfect) and I don't really think the content is there to make native vs e-Shift compelling.  But I've heard great things about the stability of the laser light sources (my RS600 flickers a decent bit). 

If I could upgrade to something with low lag, instant on/off, game mode, fixed HDR (just in case), and my RS600's six figure native contrast, I'd be pretty happy.

Laser would be great, but for some reason it seems to currently require big and expensive projectors. I have a feeling it will go more like this ( maybe with 4K too ) -
$ 35K projectors ( RS4500 - current )
$ 25K projectors
$ 15K - $18K projectors
$ 10K - $12K projectors
$ 5K - $ 7K projectors

Figure 1 - 2 years for each step ( 4 - 8 years ). At least that seems to be how things have rolled in the past !
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2017, 12:17:39 PM »
Laser would be great, but for some reason it seems to currently require big and expensive projectors.

JVC's already got lasers in the current RSx00 chassis right?  In the simulation line (VSxxxx)? 

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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2017, 12:44:00 PM »
JVC's already got lasers in the current RSx00 chassis right?  In the simulation line (VSxxxx)?

Not sure - post a link if you have one.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM »
I'd be very happy with a Laser RS620.  Native 4K really isn't of much interest to me, I don't think I have the seating position, or eyesight (uncorrected is good, but not perfect) and I don't really think the content is there to make native vs e-Shift compelling.  But I've heard great things about the stability of the laser light sources (my RS600 flickers a decent bit). 

If I could upgrade to something with low lag, instant on/off, game mode, fixed HDR (just in case), and my RS600's six figure native contrast, I'd be pretty happy.

I have to admit, I think a laser version of the 620 would sell very well. I am really looking forward to having a laser projector.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2017, 02:33:25 PM »
JVC's already got lasers in the current RSx00 chassis right?  In the simulation line (VSxxxx)?

JVC does - http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/category.jsp?productId=PRO6.2

Good contrast. Not as bright as the current lamp based models though.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2017, 03:42:08 PM »
So the question is will JVC be able to make brighter laser projectors in the same size chassis, or is this size projector stuck with 1000 - 1100 lumens ?
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2017, 06:38:59 PM »
Laser would be great, but for some reason it seems to currently require big and expensive projectors. I have a feeling it will go more like this ( maybe with 4K too ) -
$ 35K projectors ( RS4500 - current )
$ 25K projectors
$ 15K - $18K projectors
$ 10K - $12K projectors
$ 5K - $ 7K projectors

Figure 1 - 2 years for each step ( 4 - 8 years ). At least that seems to be how things have rolled in the past !

Even the Epson LS10000/10500 is big.  I saw it in person and it just dwarfs my RS500.  It must have something to do with the laser.

Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2017, 06:45:30 PM »
So the question is will JVC be able to make brighter laser projectors in the same size chassis, or is this size projector stuck with 1000 - 1100 lumens ?

I think the housing will have to be larger, if you are wanting to nearly double the lumens.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2017, 06:47:37 PM »
Even the Epson LS10000/10500 is big.  I saw it in person and it just dwarfs my RS500.  It must have something to do with the laser.

Quite a bit bigger than the JVC RS500, but not much heavier.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2017, 08:52:31 AM »
Just 2 months to go, until we know what if anything is new from JVC ! And everybody else for that matter.  :)
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2017, 04:03:38 PM »
I am guessing that the 520 will become the new entry level model. Maybe a new lamp based 520 replacement. The 620 replacement could be laser or it could be lamp again. If the 620 isn't laser then JVC could have a laser eshift between King Kong and the 620.


Honestly, I don't think there will be a fifth model. Epson has been doing laser for a couple of years, so there is no reason JVC can't have a laser 620.

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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2017, 04:12:05 PM »
It will be interesting. I honestly have no clue what might be new.
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Re: What do you think JVC will show CEDIA 2017
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2017, 08:15:45 PM »
I'll be shocked if there isn't an RS520 and/or RS620 eshift replacement without laser around similar pricing as today (or maybe a bit higher).  If Optoma is doing laser DLP at $5K I definitely expect JVC to be competitive here.  I wouldn't be surprised if there is a native 4K lamp version around $9999 to 12,999 MSRP.

My guess is the RS420 in lamp form remains especially at the value price (under $4000 or thereabouts).